its ok for shazam to get death threats and then he makes a light joke and the other guy says it angers an entire region compared to death threats
I mean dont blame zombs for that obvious idiot like people shouldnt blame all of brasil, thing is when looking at zombs tweet there isnt like 1 or 2 bad comments towards him its like all of them, saying he is a terrible human like bruh chill.
Melão just said that they all should be grown ups in the situation. What is the rude part of it?
so where's the logic where all SEN players received death threats? how is this worse than that
yeah, hating a whole region because a 12 year kid from another country said "im gonna kill you". fuck off, these death threats are nothing serious
believe me, mostly kids. the person who sends death threats on twitter is the same who says "i fucked your mom yesterday" when you dont goes well on a ranked match
omgg i'm receiving death threats from ppl, who don't even know where i live, from another country, also a subdeveloped one so they might not be able to come to my country in their entire life. Im so scared and sad with my expensive car and lots of money 😨😨😨.
Read his prior tweets. He started the fire bruh with the whole "ta querendo pica... e nao ta sabendo pedir" and then started acting like he has the moral capacity to judge everything
This is not Melão, its Revolta a brazilian ex league of legends proplayer.
"Ta querendo pica ... e nao ta sabendo pedir" is a meme, more like you want attention, but you dont know how to ask. At most you could consider it a warning, like "You are provoking us, stay in your place".
He is literally saying a meme and he is not Melão.
Oh my bad......
Also cause the google translate blew that out of proportion....sorry
he's started a war, but tbf with what the Brazilian community has said to shahz I don't even think this is that unwarranted or out of the blue,
Exactly, the Brazilian community is just playing the victim when they’re the worst offenders. How they’re not aware stumps me
BR momentum lost due to tech pause doesn't even constitute the reason they lost. They lost because they got beat. I get BR had momentum, but they could've and should've won. Sen like to trash talk, it's known, but Sen should've cooled it knowing how upset BR would be over the pause/loss.
Then again, BR are the first ones who had to forfeit for exploiting/cheating in this tournament.
yes yes ... Brazilians are very mean! only they are disrespectful
let's pretend that when Brazil took the turn of the gambit today, the chat was not infested with racist comments...
but then it is justifiable !!!! Brazilians started !!!!!
it only hurts when it's with you, then it's very easy
I dont see Brazilian pro players shit talking NA. He is talking about the whole region and he is facing the pro players. Even if he hates the whole brazilian fans, this is just unprofessional from zombs.
I was talking about them being toxic to specifically SEN for something out of their control, although I do agree zombs was out of line.
I think they like to play in a fine line between toxic and bantering/joking. It was a sad situation, that they couldnt control over the tech pause. I dont think sentinels had anything to do about it, they just waited for the pause to end. But, in this situation, over a great game, they should just say gg, but they want to banter the people that were already mad.
Shaz tried to make fun of it, i know it is just a joke, but its over someone that are already pissed at those banterings.
Thats are some of the reasoning behind they being toxic specific at SEN.
I dont think anyone should be toxic to anyone and that deathtreats shouldnt even be a thing in a community, but if you want to know exactly why they are focusing on SEN thats my opinion.
My opinion is that SEN should change their way of posting on twitter, it does not create rivalry, it creates hatred. Its like people are being pushed for nothing. Like small bullyings...
Btw, zombs is not playing in a fine line and probably this tweet had nothing to do with sentinels social media. He is clearly out of the line and not even sentinels work that way.
he was one of their best players vs furia tho, and had great impact on both bo3s?? i hope ur trolling if u think that his astra util wasn't essential to SEN winning maps
HAHA. this shows they DO actually care. good job sen. you just lost the game
Bruh, Zombs is a fucking retard to insult an entire region/country. I know that neither does Brazilians have their etiquette in the right place but as a pro player you have to be better than them, it's the standard. It wouldn't matter if he said that to BR or LATAM or any other region, it's just outright pure hate and BR doesn't need to be ashamed like this.
he's been getting constantly shit talked since the start of the game and is now being targeted by a whole region for something that wasn't his fault, he's human too behind the deadpan act, you guys have to remember that.
it's really not his fault typing what he typed here https://twitter.com/zombs/status/1467278059678146565
he took it too far but he has every right to talk back after the past week.
I mean, Zombs only said something after Shahz made a joke, had 3 big name BR people telling him to screw off, Shahz just mentions he's trying to make light of the situation, continues to get bombarded by people, and Zombs has no chill so he tells them to screw off back because he doesn't care as much about his public image. This isn't a Zombs issue, BR attacked first and Zombs is just trying to stand up for his boy.
Mind you, I dislike Zombs and his awful personality. Plus, I think he's a mediocre pro player.
There is only one person from the brazilian valorant community in this tweet: That's Melão, the brazilian caster. He only said that sound strange to make fun of a bad situation that harm another person and say that this is "putting light" on something. After that he said that they should stay cool and be more mature over this situation.
I dont see where he gets disrespected by him.
Btw, the other person is Revolta, he is a retired League of Legends pro player. The phrase "ta querendo pica... e nao ta sabendo pedir" is a meme that means basically a funny way of saying "You are provoking us, stay in your place". So i think he was not disrespectful, but warned him to just dont touch this subject again in a joking way.
Again, he's human, but he HAS to have standards. Don't publicly lash out your anger if you're a kind of celebrity in a scene, because you're only being a bad example and a man-child. Keeping his cool and replying kindly like shahz does would make us incredibly happy, cause I really like Shahz and his way of handling things. You can literally see in the section that Shahz tries to reason with em, but Zombs fucking insults an entire region, tell me how can even Shahz save him outta hate?
I agree that zombs took it too far this time and it's pretty much unrecoverable at this point.
Very well said friend, I wouldn't have sided with my brotha's on SA soil, but I know that pros need to have standards, you just can't do that shit in public. How would you feel If you were as a Brazilian fan watching and admiring Zombs, but he suddenly shits on your region and calls your players trash? You have to take into account what you should say, because you have influence.
This was bound to happen and it was just a matter of time. Zombs has always been like this and that is his personality. Anyone who played CS or Overwatch whether you were against him or on his team knew the kind of person he was. He is a toxic individual. Regarding the backlash they were getting, its more of the fact with the egos that they have and the bias Riot seems to have towards NA and just bigger regions in general. You can't deny that 20 minute tech pause was a joke and the whole situation with Acend and Keyd Stars is a mess. Both handled very poorly by Riot. Brazilian fans have a right to be mad and they are very dedicated.
I am against the death threats but Sentinels don't aid or help the situation at all. They have pretty big egos (most of them), it is NA. They like to flex or show their superiority over others and it is especially shown here to smaller regions. I get you're a Sentinels fan but it is hard to like them (TenZ is fine just dont like his fans, same with SicK) and their fanbase makes it hard to like them as well, no offense to you. You seem to be one of the more rational Sentinels fans with a brain. Same can be said with 100T fans.
Agreed. I gotta say this though, the region doesn't matter that much, what happens in champs as of now is pretty much BR getting rolled over by the small indie company and their poor decisions, they have every right to be angry. It's just that BR's reputation of being toxic in general but every scene has them, if the same thing happened to TR, and it nearly happened in EMEA playoffs, remember the Frankfurt server incident and Client crashes during OXG vs G2 and SMB vs FPX, we would've retaliated in a similar way, can't blame BR in general, they've suffered enough.
That's exactly it. Imagine if a soccer player insulted every fan that booed him in a match? Professionals must have higher standards than fans, or else they wouldn't be professionals.
this is more like if a player from a different league insulted you publicly or in an interview
Also, had Zombs even t-bagged cNed, not even counting the possibility of doing this against SMB, he would've literally received death threats for months, BR's hate is nowhere near TR, and that's saying something.
Plenty of players have teabagged Turkish players and vice versa. Not much happened.
zombs vs TL 28/42
zombs vs Envy 27/32
zombs vs g2 14/32
train to improve within the game? not
wasting time on a tweet from hours ago? Yes
so eu vs na war officially over? sen gave up and wen't full on weaker region? xd
i know he meant shit region is valorant but jesus wtf does that type of comment even do for u zombs
First - Brazil with a capital letter B, because its a name
Second - Zombs made a tweet disrespecting a whole region and you say we are the ones being assholes? C'mon!
First, its should be it's (note the apostrophe) because it is a name checks out.
Second, Shahz made a tweet with some light trash talk, then BR fans and other professionals act like Shahz is a demon and now Shahz is getting death threats by a whole region, so Zombs comes in finally to call your region trash and you think death threats are ok, but Zombs calling your region bad is the worst thing here? C'mon!
I mean, I know your region is known for a high murder and decapitation rate, but you don't need to bring that to other regions.
< makes death threats to all sen players
< 1 sen player responds in a toxic manner
< "don't cross that line with brazilians", even tho brazilians are the ones complaining
hmmmmm
Death threats, where is the proof? OMG some kid called me and Said that he Will kill me omg. If It was a real problem he would call the Police? Why doesn't he do that? He knows that It Will not happen, what happenned here is that Shaz and Zombs WANTED to shit talk people they shouldn't shit talk. Now they are suffering and probably Will get penalized from riot.
he only tweeted this cause of constant harassment from brazilian fans. this was escalated for no reason man, sen literally didn’t ask for this.
Yeah, i dont think we should talk as zombs has any kind of right to shittalk an entire region. Did Furia say something to them, for example?
Again Sentinels does not know how to proper use their twitter, they are probably the worst team at doing this.
they literally did though. everybody knows what the BR scene is like, they decided to make some stupid jokes about them, which everybody knew would result in this. its just like the turkish scene, say 1 bad thing about them and they will take it personally and want to kill you
You're actually victim blaming and it's hilarious. "You know that X person (BR) are insane fans willing to make multiple death threats over a joke, and you (Shahz) antagonized them, so it's your fault (Shaz/Zombs) and it's ok that we (BR) say we're going to murder you in response to a joke".
How delusional are you? If I saw you on the street and called you fat, you think it's ok to threaten to murder me and my family? LMFAO. How about admonishing BR for their uncivilized responses.
They have been like this for over 10 years lmao wtf are you suggesting to do?
They live in a shithole and their entire personality is based on their national achievements, and when they fail they start tribalizing against whoever opposes them.
If you don`t want to get death threats, or the BR monkey squad coming after you, leave them alone.
I don`t talk to crackheads when I`m alone at the trainstation. it`s the same thing.
If I go to a crackhouse and sit there with money in my hands, they'll pounce and you can call me an idiot for it, but that doesn't change the fact that they probably just murdered me for that money.
The problem still lies with the Brazilians in this case.
I feel sorry for Tenz and Sick who are very nice and respectful people but unfortunately this shit is going to hit them
Yup, even Shahz is likeable. I wouldn't want those three to caught up in this situation that much, but sometimes you can't do anything...
put zombs at TSM and he will be kicked in less than 2 months. horrible player using trash talk to keep his "relevance".
Dont know why this moron ever opens his mouth tbh, dude is one of the worst players at this event. Does he not realize that he is the problem lmao
We all know he should be punished, but is not gonna happen. He didn't use a camera, after all
https://twitter.com/whylace/status/1467285742766415878/photo/1
In all seriousness, i've kind of lost respect for sentinels.
I would agree though that noone should recieve death threats, thats also just too far.
well just like people say so called "death threats" are jokes, zombs could say the same. also im not defending zombs but im pretty sure if I were in his position getting attacked for no reason at all id be mad too, maybe not generalize the entire region the way he did but still who knows when ur mad ur not using ur brain
But isn't there a difference between a professional player saying it and some random fans? If some public figure from BR sent a "death threat", this would be another conversation.
I hope someday after COVID situation, Brazil's going to host some VALORANT tournament and zombs will be very welcomed there!!
By then he will be retired, horrible playing and incredibly manages to make a bigger shit on social media, he was just lucky to be carried by tenz and company and have won the first masters
LMFAO i thought this was a fake account at first
welp not like he would say this unprovoked, but now it's just going go down a long rabbit hole of "you started it" "no you started it"
i am here with popcorn
Lol how are Brazilians that toxic and also have a victim complex at the same time? Like pick one lol
Brazil's influential people should've just called out their fellow brazilians that are harassing players. Instead they are fanning the flames of people's hate
zombs kind of deservers some hate for this (nothing serious), but I have to say that that vocal minority of Brazilian fans who have been ravaging Valorant Champions social media in past couple of days are some of the worst I've seen. These "fans" are toxic while acting victim. So, I can see why someone like zombs could get frustrated and say dumb shit.
well the silent majority arent doing anything about their fellow brazilians either.
Zellsis made a sexist comment, Zombs just called a region shit. Not the same thing.
"During VALORANT Masters Reykjavík, Zellsis violated rule 7.1.2 of the Global Competition Policy which mandates that players observe the highest standards of personal integrity and good sportsmanship at all times. As a result, Zellsis is suspended for the first Challenger Open Qualifier and first Challenger Main Event of Stage 3."
Where is the personal integrity and good sportsmanship?
whatever the brazilian valorant community has said or done in the past, this is still unwarranted. addressing it in a more mature manner would have been a much better look. why even give people a chance to play the victim card?
At least Sentinels chose a region they can beat to beef with
It’d be embarrassing if they said the same shit about EU
EU = Europe
abbreviations can have multiple meanings, and EU is the two letter abbreviation for Europe
https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.geoip-continent-code-by-name.php
idk why people would use an economic group instead of geographical terms, when it goes by continent for everything except BR and LATAM
In most cases
EU = European Union
Eu = Europe
Don't think php documentation really matters here
when BR do the shit talking: Haha is just banter, y'all so soft
when ppl talk shit back: WTF that is racist. you will never make out of this country alive.
Because people do the same when random 14-year-olds send death threats, they don't represent the BR community at all.
A 16yo from Spain sends an insulting image and so Sentinels/NA is racist? At least take a look at where the person is from, lmfao.
That guy is just a dumb random on Twitter, he’s not like verified people encouraging hate and toxicity.
okay it's just an average idiot. Brazilians can't take a joke and it's like this in literally every esport scene.
I imagine these people during old cs go times, not being able to handle some small banter
The world is full of soyboys and SJWs now unfortunately, miss the old cs go times, fat ass hiko SEETHING while being destroyed by LG lmao
zombs is the most disgusting person on the scene by Valorant, I don't care if Krü or Furia wins, whoever passes hopefully fucks SEN and they bench Zombs
ok what i understood from all this is "just because some BR haters were flaming Sen for the tech pause they took in furia game, zombs after losing to TL, attacked the entire region just because he got irritated".
IDK if that was the right call by zombs.
Idk who to support, on 1 hand there is Zombs on other hand there is a whole nation.