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yeah but like is this a reason to want zekken gone 😭 the guy can just play flex and jawgemo can go full duelist
hell you now have the option to go double duelist if sen want to do some crazy shit
zekken was playing with the guy that went +17 against optic in the grand finals and the best omen itw at the time.
jawgemo had ap0th on his team.
and jawgemo won the matchup while mvp'ing.
did EG qualify to anything this year? how is one fluke win against SEN discredit SEN winning madrid and getting top 4 at champs? you people are crazy!
who?
edit: tenz just picked up omen this year i hope you arent talking about him
G2 won EDG matchup at champs, does that make them better? you are deluded. One fluke win doesnt discredit everything SEN achieved this year.
Oh my, imagine Sen Jawg and zekken leaves and joins NRG. That NRG team would be insane. Zekken, Verno, Ethan, s0m, FNS. Perfect mixture of talent and experience. Ethan and FNS seasoned Veterens. s0m and Zekken experienced young talent and Verno mechanically gifted rookie.
jawgemo is a better jett raze neon and duelist overall than zekken imo
Easily but
Zekken leaving would make me sad personally even though I love jawg more
0/8 bait, one is washed, the other is a top 4-5 duelist in the world at this moment. U can guess who is who
jawg hasnt played against any international teams this year? how is he still world class
Just cus u won champs a year ago doesnt mean ur still at that form rn, look at demon1, cned, nats as example
placements alone aren’t the only things that make a player good, you can tell simply by the way he plays that jawgemo is still a player that can hold his own against international opponents
also eg won champs literally only a year ago. hardly six months ago he was still considered one of the best players in the world but not suddenly he’s washed?
kangkang got fked in the masters,why he got the champs?
kangkang was top6 in tokyo and LA?Why he's concerned one of the best op user in the world?
That's why jaw is still world class.He doesnt need anything to prove smth but he has the ability to be in it.
u guys are all coping out of ur asses now, jawg and demon1 aint world class players anymore. Its been a whole year now since they won champs and u guys need to realize that. Its 2024 now guys wakey wakey. Just cus they did it once doesnt mean they still at that skill ceiling as of this date. Potential sure is there, but without any real consistency its hard to agree here
Demon1 fell off pretty hard this year and jawg had a very mid year
no the fuck he did not lmao jaw had a pretty good year and demon1 had issues with gf just like your glorious king tenz in 2023 and guess what in 2024 tenz played great and im sure demon1 will play good next year
Demon1 aint tenz, cant just assume he will do good next year cus tenz turned it around this year
I’ll remember this comment for next year tho 😉
idk this is the same as saying sayf<-->derke
both insane players and i dont think u would ever replace any of them to get the other, whats the point?
where have people got the impression recently that jawgemo is the best NA duelist? is it because of that one hard carry?
he had a strong season most of the time but he also has pitfalls, can be completely missing in some games and he doesnt have a good jett, isnt a great op'er, is really only good on duelist (although he does have 2 great duelists which isnt that common)
on the other hand zekken is genuinely one of the best players in the world, super flexible even though he is (imo) the best NA duelist, seems super vocal, can play pretty much every duelist (people who say his jett is bad are spoiled by how good his other agents are, his jett is still good), insanely consistent and still has that same carry potential has jawgemo but just in more games more consistently
jawgemo is great ofc but people saying jawgemo > zekken watch valorant with their eyes closed
jawgemo is great but less consistent than zekken, both players are flexible really, i don’t get this comparasion
ppl dont understand what you mean
best duelist itw>top 5 duelist itw
but top 5 duelist itw>hundreds of players
You guys are crazy or what? Zekken have only one problem was duelist: Operator. If he improves that, he will be like highest level duelist. The best serie i have seem from him, was against the Gen.g. Was the first time i see him doing great with OP, and he was one the mainly reason, to Sentinels wins that final.
and btw why people hyping Jawgemo this much? wtf.. EG win champions 2023 was the worst thing to happen in valorant history. Now i have to see people saying C0m, Demon1 and Jawgemo are tier S players lmao.
jawgemo is the best duelist itw dont kid yourself because your biased
Because jawgemo is a tier S player at his best lol what’s hard to understand? He’s been really inconsistent this year but he is a lot like derke, struggle at the beginning but really go insane during the second half of the year. Sad he choked vs 100T which is a result of inconsistency but he is still a great guy. EG winning champs 2023 was one of the best and coolest things to happen don’t kid yourself lol. By your logic would you agree that pancada was a S tier player in 2023?
"At his best he is tier S" The game doesn't work like that. We need to see what he is doing rn. Yay at his best, he is the best valorant player, would you risk put him in your team?
Why someone would change a guy who is proven good two year in a row(Zekken), for a guy who played one tournament well(jawgemo)? This make literally zero sense. Jawgemo did nothing special this year, sure, his team wasn't the best and this make you performance decrease, but we saw guys like Oxy, with a bad team too, but better performance than Jawgemo.
By my logic you can't say someone is good because 1 title, 1 tournament or whoever, we need to judge his performance as a player. just that.
People don’t mind yay on their tier 1 team because they know how good of a player he is even despite the shit season this year, same with players like jingggg and something. You didn’t answer my question, did you think pancada was a S tier player after 2022?
No, i do not think he is a S tier player in 2023 or 2024. He had a great 2022, but join sentinels was the worst thing to him. Didn't speak english well, play only as controller and the staff put him as senti... like wtf you doing to you career. And besided all of that, the worst thing to him was be the six player. Now i think he is overrated. Tuyz worth the same as him.
Top 3 duelist in the world vs top 4 in Americas? I wonder why y’all still think Jaw is better than zekken when he didn’t do anything this year. Not to say Jawgemo is bad at all but he isn’t on the same level as zekken
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