im leaving vlr.
but do not put them in your top 5 teams of 2024 rankings thx.
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literally shut your mouth
they were the best team in emea the entire year
one of only two teams to make TWO international grand finals
because they have been the only emes team on two separate occassions to make any form of a deep run internationally whilst every other emea team has shit the bed
that's a braindead take. 2022 optic could not win NA for the life of them, but they are undoubted either the best or second best team in 2022 in the world. fnc lost emea playoffs in 2023 to liquid, they are still 100% the best team in emea in 2023
No because 2022 optic was actually the first seed from NA going into champs same with 2023 fnatic they were the 1st seed out of emea going into champs as well
You're not leaving VLR. You will stay and watch as Shitmea fails to get a trophy for another year.
They are a top 5 team bro, idk what else to tell u..
Qualified for every international
Two 2nd place finishes (Champs and Shanghai)
Season Success Rankings:
- SEN
- GENG
- TH
- EDG
- LEV?
Yeah LEV is a good shout for #5, they won Americas, qualified for 2 internationals and got top 3 in Champs.
team with 0 trophies in the year manages to get top 3, instead of a team that won a masters
2nd place in both masters and champions and also in their regional leagues. Sen couldn't even qualify for the second masters and placed 4th at champions.
did they get a trophy? no right?
sen got a trophy, which is why they are top 3
since there are 3 events in a year, if each team wins an event, all 3 of those teams are in the top 3 teams of the year, doesn't matter how many 2nds you get
can't believe ppl are so retarded
So you're saying 2nd place of champs is ignorable? Sen even placed 7-8th in stage 1 and 5-6th in stage 2, with no considerable achievement after the masters with only eight teams participating.
they still won an international event this year, did team heretics win an international trophy?
a trophy is what matters at the end of the day, and since 3 different teams won 3 different trophies this year, ONLY those 3 teams can be top 3
how is it this hard to understand?
I didn't know how hard it is to make someone understand the importance of consistency and champions. Heretics made clear their skills improved and took the 2nd place of champ whereas Sen fell off gradually after Madrid. But what did Sen? Placing 5-6th in their regional league and qualifying for champs thanks to Leviatan? I can't argue that they had a good year as heretics.
Just keep underrating them. Don't have much to speak well of a team that's only made the finals once a year and has never even been close to winning.
2 2nd place finishes in no world is better than a first place champs finish. How tf is edg not above th?
I'd rather get one first place than a gazillion second places.
Also sen and geng should be switched, sen is not first lol.
how the fuck is SEN first.
GENG placed 2nd, 1st, 12-9th
Sen placed 1st, didnt even qual for playoffs, and 4th
in no world did SEN have a better year than Geng
- EDG 3/3 finals win
- GenG 2/4 finals win
- Sen 2/2 finals win
- TH 0/3 finals win
- I think people are forgetting that PRX placed 3rd at Madrid making their seasons resume very similiar to Lev however PRX made every international while Lev made 2 so its up for debate
TH is only team that kept EMEA alive this year in masters and champions, 2 back to back international grand finals and they were close to winning champs, what's with this friendly fire!!
LEV is too high unfortunately (didnt make 1st LAN and got grouped the second time around)
EDG champs, 2 regional titles, most champs points
Geng masters, 1 regional title, 4 grand finals
Sen masters, 1 regional title
Th 0/3 grand finals
Prx top 3, every international qualified, 1 regional title
Lev top 3, 1 regional title
EDG champs, 2 regional titles, most champs points
Geng masters, 1 regional title, 4 grand finals
Sen masters, 1 regional title
Th 0/3 grand finals
Prx top 3, every international qualified, 1 regional title
Lev top 3, 1 regional title
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