Do they still deserve 2 slots? I need my Vietnamese brothers in VCT, please.
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Nope, give them 1 slot is enough (the only reason is free point for other team)
yeah im looking and I see a champs win and a second at masters tokyo.. when is the last time japan even made a regional final
oh this is about t1, i thought it was about vcl spots in playoffs mb
"Your region" is Japan which isn't a region of its own in T1 so I'm obviously talking about T2
if hes been under the same contract since October 2024 then he actively chose to stay in tier 2 for 3 years
if hes renewed contracts then he actively chose to stay in tier 2 for 3 years
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Idk if he actually has renewed the contract or not last year tho, Japan is weird with contracts and players are often signed in contract jails. All I know is that his buyout is high asf and he was never FA this offseason afaik
You saying that japan doesnt deserve 2 slots in vct, and they should be given to vietnam is so funny, as vietnam is one of the weakest region in asia.... except crazyguy and yesican(in 2022), there is no good player from vietnam.. although pr0digy guy has potential.... but vietnamese players cant even farm in our VCL India, in 2024 rapid lofi got spanked hard in ascension by RNT.
The best viet players are in Vietnam and sea, Vietnam placed 4th in challengers sea
The best viet players in 2024 were defeated 26-6 by Indian team, and the best viet players in 2025 didnt qualify for ascension, and honestly finishing 4th in SEA this year will also be worthless when only top 3 will get a shot.
2024 brody, viet is much better now most of their best players just turned 16 this year to play challengers like kozzy and xiesta (from other t2 leagues but same logic, they were rank 1s for long time but just turned 16)
could be... I only know about pr0digy from young players in viet. But my assessment is only based off their performaces in ascension or similar tournament, which they last played in 2024.
yea most of their best players just started playing this year because Riot jaker gave some benefits to vietnam qualifier league ($ incentive) since viet is the 4th largest viewership languagevise in apac
entire fcu roster + look at some of the 2nd 3rd finishing team at viet qualifiers
by your logic, India slot should be given to Vietnam then, If we’re calling regions “weak,” India has gifted slot by Riot for years and hasnt really achieved anything not even single pro player that good enough playing in Tier 1
and tbh is not about Vietnam only, its about giving the slot to the one who deserve more, Mongolia,thai,indo,singapore etc. (whoever) even Korea could deserve more, The point is we see enough these region who get the slot and their potential. give other region a shot
GE is india's slot. Everyone knows it except you who just started watching VCT yesterday.
japan have never performed worse than vietnam at ascension iirc, who cares if vn is top 4 in sea? lol
and last i checked dfm did not do that bad in kickoff
doing well in sea =/= doing well in apac
and if slots should get removed based off poor performance APAC deserved to have like 1 slot in 2021
This is a snowball situation where to be good in ascention you need experience, and VN team have absolutely NO EXPERIENCE, so they are not good, so they dont play good tournament, so they have no experience and it's a vicious circle.
You need a full VN team for the same reason India actually need a real full Indian team if they want to achieve something in the future.
you don’t need to have experience to be good in ascension…just ask SLT and SPG/NS lol
the unfortunate truth is simply that certain regions are just not good enough yet. While there may be individuals who are talented enough for T1 there is no evidence that a team is good enough for it, especially if they have not proven themselves in Ascension for the past 3 years.
the entire point of Ascension is for tier 2 teams to prove themselves regardless of their region or lack of org or whatever. It’s a free ticket that Riot will assist you with as long as you prove you deserve it through the fairest metric of all: merit.
Are we seriously crying about not having a tier 1 slot when our tier 2 teams aren’t even hacking it?
"you don’t need to have experience to be good in ascension…just ask SLT and SPG/NS"
if u dont know what u talking abt dont even say random shit abt it, SLT/NS have the experience (they have the opportunity playing and scrims agains Tier 1 due to VCT team are all in Korea, that is a huge advantage that other region cannot have) before Ascension f0rsaken said that PRX have scrims them and when viewers ask which team goona win, he said SLT/BOOM/NS
u act like SEA teams have insane ping disadvantage to Korea when it’s 40ms to HK server lol
also the chinese teams scrim pacific teams yet they’re still bad
so why do these scrims mean so much
you guys will make excuses and cope about everything lol
It's a huge market, so i'll say yes, Japan deserve 2 slot, you are not looking in the right direction.
To me the main problem there is that, China have too many spots (No need to explain), Amer have too many spots (Asking more slot to NA while they have 5 would be the equivalent of asking a 6th lane to fix traffic problem), EMEA have the exact right amount of spot (-1 EU + 1 RU)... AND APAC NEED LIKE x1.5 slots.
- Korea need AT LEAST 3-4 spot (No seriously, they-are currently more KR team premier than NA team, NA have 8 slot, KR got 3, this is insane)
- Japan deserve 2 slot (Still a huge market that you don't want to lose)
- OCE deserve 1 spot
- PH deserve 1 slot
- ID deserve 1 slot
- TH deserve at least 1 spot
- VN actually deserve 1 slot
- PRX deserve 1 slot
- India deserve 1 slot (Maybe even 2 given the huge market that India is, in 2025 act 6 India was before Turkey, LAS, Japan and really close from Brasil)
And you can even question Mongolia and Taiwan needing a slot, or even a proper eastern russia team (And split East and West Russia residency), you can also argue that Gulf belong to APAC and need 1 spot.
Riot talked about reducing the number of partner team in 2027, if thats happen it would be horrible fo APAC staying one region and we will need 2 region.
Also APAC see a huge groth of Valorant Fanbase in APAC and a decline in AMER, I see the APAC split in 2031 unavoidable (Maybe later if we go to 12 partner team), but it's too early in 2027 so VN will probably have no spot. (People calling for AMER split, without calling for APAC split are not aware of the situation in APAC, the only T2 that need more slot in AMER is LAN)
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