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SHUT THE F* UP STUPID DOG

https://www.vlr.gg/event/3039/challengers-2026-pacific-last-chance-qualifier/main-event

SHUT THE F* UP STUPID DOG

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Too long....

Both China teams.... nothing to say.

Please dont use the excuse that China started playing later than other regions. In reality, as soon as Valorant was released in 2020, Chinese teams were already able to compete in tournaments hosted locally, on the Hong Kong server. And Riot even invited them to participate in the Pacific LCQ 2021, but they could not attend because of covid.
True reason about China will not develop more is, they never affraid to lose spots in Masters and Champions. It's better for China if they receive some challenges from foreign teams, by merged to Pacific.

Well, maybe XLB couldn’t meet the eligibility requirements for SEA/Pacific resident players. After all, they’re still BLG Academy, so they would naturally prefer to compete in CN instead.
I think Motiv must be really upset with them. Honestly, it would’ve been better if XLB had withdrawn from Rest of SEA from the start, so Motiv wouldn’t have lost their chance to qualify for the Pacific play-in in such a pointless way.

Why not save Raze ultimate for last round?

Forsaken is Indonesian but he has been playing for PRX at the first, when PRX was playing for Challengers MYSG 2021. I think he would be looked as MYSG (or "Rest of SEA" currently) domestic player

Why shouldn't we have the right to complain just because our performance is poor? Unless no one plays Valorant in Vietnam or OCE anymore, we still have the right to call for clearer opportunities to go better. That's a legitimate right.

Why Korean being selfish and not want to VN and OCE play in VCT? 5 Korean teams are not enough? Want all teams are Korean?

Why Korean being selfish and no want to VN play in tier 1?

Never qualify for Worlds playoffs => still be independent, and get 2 spots in Worlds
Had won Champions => no more independent, no have any Masters/Champions direct slots

Hard to understand Riot

Due to scare about lose direct slots for Masters and Champions to Apac teams

Agree. China never worry about to lose spots in Masters and Champions, so they never try harder.

Who was awarded as the IGL of the year in Pacific 2025?

This match will be played on Dec 7, not today

If you following League's LCP, you will know a rule that if a sub-region which has most teams, non-partner team of them who is lowest each other must be competed in promotion, to prevent imbalance and polarization between stronger and weaker sub-regions. That made Vietnam's MVKE played in promotion althought they end upper than Japan's DFM in the season.
You want to replace Talon or other SEA with a Korean team. OK, that make you happy. But the consequence is that you will lose the Thai market and further increase the suspicion of Korean favoritism. In the long run, if VCT becomes too skewed toward Korea with an excessive number of Korean teams, no one in SEA will want to participate in VCT anymore. Pacific will end up repeating the same downfall that League’s PCS went through: starting in 2020 with a 6/4 TWHK–SEA team ratio, and by its final year 2024 before merging into the LCP, the ratio had become 10/0, along with growing indifference from viewers in SEA countries.

No have any franchise team but still have player won Pacific LUL

"A 27 years old guy with zero experience in Tier 1 varolant, I dont think he win that lmao
edit : my bad, he got 2 lose in kickoff"

Remember?

Overwhelmed by host country's teams

VCT stages 2 playoff is opened for Challengers teams to qualify for Champions
So can VCT stages 1 playoff or regional qualifiers be opened for Challengers teams to qualify for EWC?

That's a part of life

I thought you knew that after seeing how biased Riot has been towards China over the years

What is a pity slot?
Like the China 4 slots in Champs?

Too much? At least VN has one of the highest viewership in SEA even without any teams in franchise.

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China will not develop more because they never affraid to lose spots in Masters and Champions
It's better for China if they receive some challenges from foreign teams

Brazil players won't be affected by visa issue
Local talents will have more chances to grow up
Will win more Masters/Champions

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Actually China also have been playing since the game was released in 2020, at the Hong Kong server
They were given slots in LCQ APAC 2021, but could not compete due to Covid

Yes if J0ke S0n gone

Korea fan always hide their face after the cheering board when being caught on camera

Yes, but you forget: Juicy played VCL MYSG at his home Singapore, and by online. So he was free about work permits.
Also that level but if VCL Korea that is offline, he counldn't.

Well, it's an advantage for host country
Juicy could not compete in Pacific 2024 due to age limit law for foreigners in Korea.
Of course, it wasn't affected to Flashback when he was playing in VCL Korea 2023.

Lost to NS to save all Korean in Playoff
=> Lost from 10-2, Lost Champions ticket

I knew Manila will have an own server.
Before it, I want to know how many ping in Philippines to HK and SG?
In Vietnam, it is about 50-70ms both, and usually have lost packages.

Let Americas hosted in Brazil in a time about 2-3 years and you will understand "what is the home advantage".

Have a free time, I just suggest for second era. Of course, Riot never do it.

Let 2 or 3-years instead of 5-years

• 5 years is too long. We saw lots of problems happened about partner teams but Riot couldn't do anything to fix it due to contracts.

Make 6 regional leagues instead of 4. There are:

• NA: play in LA
• LATAM+Brazil: play in Sao Paulo
• EMEA: play in Berlin.
• China: self-decided location. If available, team's can make home studio/stadium like LPL
• East Asia (KR+JP+TW/HK, included Mongolian players): play in Japan (best in Tokyo).
• SEA (included OCE + South Asia): play in Bangkok

Each regions will be 10 teams, 6 partner and 4 ascension. Total 60 teams all regions.

Reasons:

• Avoid visa issues. There have been cases where visa issues had a significant impact on teams. For example, FURIA in Kick off this year. PRX Patmen also had visa issue and missed 2 matches in stage 1.
• Increase diversity and opportunities for players from other countries.
• Minimize unworthy or underperforming partner teams.
• Why Japan instead of Korea for East Asia: although Seoul now is a venue has good facilities but
  • Except for matches of Korean teams, there were still plenty of empty seats.
  • Whenever the camera pointed at Korean fans, they just shyly hid behind their cheering boards. Personally, I prefer seeing fans wave, give a friendly smile, or do a fun hand sign like a finger heart. I believe Japanese fans can do it.
  • The Korean community in Japan is much larger than the Japanese community in Korea, so Korean teams wouldn’t have to worry about a lack of live audience, while Japanese teams would also have more fans go to watch them.
  • In Japan, there are many support services available in Korean, so language wouldn’t be an issue. In fact, I’ve even heard that Koreans is easier to learn Japanese compared to people from other countries due to the similarities in grammar. And a lot of Korean are playing in Japanese teams. Visa and life in Japan for Korean is not a big problem.
• Why Bangkok for SEA:
  • The fact that Thailand has been chosen to host several international VCT tournaments shows that it is quite a suitable location. Up to now, we’ve already had Ascension Pacific 2023, Game Changers Pacific 2024, Masters Bangkok, and we will have Ascension and Game Changers Pacific 2025. I believe Thailand also can host Champions.
  • Visa in Thailand is not difficult. For fans, not only SEA people but also Indian and Oceanian, Thailand doesn't required visa.

Suggestion of partner's slots division (6 slots):

• NA, EMEA, China: I have no idea.
• LATAM+Brazil: 3 BR + 3 LATAM
• East Asia: 3 KR + 2 JP + 1 TW/HK (hope that will be CFO, or PSG Talon)
• SEA: 1 Thailand, 1 Indonesia, 1 MYSG (PRX), 1 Philippines, 1 Vietnam, 1 Oceania
  • Why not have India: in the fact, Riot did a lot to attract Indian players and viewers (made Lotus, Harbor, took partner with Global Esports), but result was so bad. Currently, GE has to play without any Indian players. And there’s an unfortunate truth that Indian has to accept: they has never had a single player who played in a Masters/Champions.

Global events formats:

• Masters with 8 teams First Stand (or "Conquerors")
  (I think it shouldn't be called as "Masters". Due to be teams are decided by regional Kick Off - a quick split season with Double Emilination format. The scale of the first Masters is always smaller than the second one, so grouping them under the same name as "Masters" doesn’t sound good. Temporarily use name from LOL. If it were up to me, I would call this tournament as "Valorant Conquerors")
  • 6 teams (only regional winner), drawn in 2 groups, bo3 single round robin. If h2h score is 1-1 for 3 teams, team which have most difference of games and rounds auto-qualify as 1st-place, while remain 2 teams will be decide 2nd-place by a bo1 tie-break.
  • Top 4 teams in play-off with single elimination, all bo5 (don't worry, Lock/in Sao Paulo semifinals were played in bo5).
  • Playing days: Mon-Tue-Wed for groups (2 bo3 matches each, tie-break in late of Wed), Fri-Sat-Sun for playoffs (1 bo5 match each). Thu is break day.
• Masters
  • 12 teams (regional winner + runner-up)
  • Seed #1 from top 4 regions in First Stand will start in playoff stage. Remain 8 teams will start in play-in stage.
  • Format is same current Masters 2.
• Champions
  • 18 teams (regional winner + runner-up + champions points)
  • Seed #3 from bottom 4 regions in Masters will start in play-in stage with Double Elimination. 2 teams will qualify for group stage with remain 14 teams. 16 teams will play with format same current Champions

If RRQ can lose TS, we let review the h2h result of the 4 top teams:

• RRQ: 2W/1L
• TLN: 2W/1L
• T1: 1W/2L
• NS: 1W/2L
  and in h2h directly, RRQ> TLN, T1 > NS

If RRQ can win, we let review the h2h result of TLN, T1 and NS:

• TLN: 2W/0L
• T1: 1W/1L
• NS: 0W/2L

So, although RRQ has not played yet, the Omega group has also been determined. RRQ>TLN>T1>NS.

They still do not. Must win Zeta.

Let imaginate: if Bleed did not make misstake and could keep slot
=> Boom must be stuck in tier 2 this year
and SEA Challengers now is sucked with current format
=> Boom may be gone, disband, etc...
Thank god Boom have come to where they should belong, not GE DFM or TS

Get ace in pistol round and... 0 kill more

He owned this motto from CSGO but sucked Riot had stolen it and gave to KangKang.

Where is the worst subregion in Pacific although Riot has supported the local esports scene a lot? While doesn't do anything well for SEA and Oceania's scene.

Source
Is it fair to non-KR teams due to be impossible for leaving Korea to make homeground locally?

Possible Japan and Korea again, due to infrastructure
Excluded Seoul (hosted almost Champs 2024) and Chiba (host all Masters 2023), JPKR have:

• Osaka
• Kyoto
• Kobe
• Tokyo "real"
• Nagoya
• Okinawa
• Sapporo
• Busan
• Gwangju
• Incheon (hosted Champs 2024 final week)
• etc...

Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, Jakarta are ok too, but afraid viewer are not guaranteed

SEA is not a COUNTRY, meaning even if you group all SEA teams, SEA fans still won't care how many teams SEA has as much as how many teams their own country has. RRQ was previously criticized by Indonesian fans for trying to build a Philippines team instead of Indonesia in 2023 franchise.

In 2021, due to inaugural season, slots were given based on each region's FPS platform. Brazil had CSGO, Korea had Overwatch. Brazil was given 2, Korea was given 1 slot in Masters 2 Reykjavik, Champs 21, this was reasonable. Because after all, Valorant game play is look like CSGO more than OW.

People dont understand korea went through a lot to reach where they are lol.

• Given direct Masters/Champions slots in 2020-2022
• Located as host of Pacific => no problem about visa, living environment, language, fans, server, ...
• Given most partners slots in Pacific (3)
• Challengers teams can scrim with tier 1 locally

Yah, too hardly understanding...