5

About G2 "Cheating"

Comments:
Threaded Linear
#1
WONDERWEISS

If the rumours become real, i would expect from Riot Games to Ban G2 from VCT Events like for 2 Years. Theres no way Carlos didn't know about that (If it's 100% true).

#2
PrTsty
4
Frags
+

Why wpuld carlos know about it and why tf would it be 2 years LMAO. They will be banned for the 2nd qialifier most likely if G2 is to be found guilty

#3
WONDERWEISS
-1
Frags
+

Imagine your the CEO and pretend like you're so involved in your Teams but you don't know how your Team is doing things. Like you're paying Players that have Secrets you can't know about even they do something what you pay them for.

According to your logic he is paying People and tell em "You know what guys? Win Masters and Champions and i fucking don't care how. Cheat or not, i don't care. Just win it!"

What you ask for is not a punishment! It makes it worth giving it a try to make it to Masters in my opinion. For many EU Teams it's already a really hard Goal to make it to Masters so why not try it with a Cheat when your punishment would be just skipping next Challengers?

#5
Dest1ny
7
Frags
+

Actual brain damage, why the fuck would you tell the CEO of one of the largest esport orgs In the world that your teams cheating, carlos wouldn't have any of it

#9
WONDERWEISS
-17
Frags
+

You must be under 12 yo to have an opinion like this. You can't pertend like you knew nothing about this when your Team gets caught of Cheating. if Carlos doesn't drop nukkye, m1xwell, meddo, hoody, avova you know he is involved in this. No Org in existence would forgive something like this by doing nothing.

#22
PrTsty
6
Frags
+

True, the team went to carlos and said..hey I know this whole G2 thing is very important to you but we're gonna cheat because we are a dogshit team. Carlos surely mustve replied, oh yes thats cool.

Due you know how luch work a CEO has to do and how many teams G2 has, he cant be around every team 24/7 and even if he did noone of the team would tell him that they will.go on and cheat. You act like carlos himself is the coach

#48
Never_Wrong
-3
Frags
+

Thank you. Glad to see there's people with brain in this site

People acting like EVERYTHING is done by Carlos himself alone

#92
DogeForPres
0
Frags
+

e

#24
Raevus
5
Frags
+

bro, Carlos isn't the team manager. He doesn't sit in on every single match from all of his teams. Dude is managing a brand and company, not just one team. it's

The punishments that would most likely happen, are sanctions for the players, and Pipson getting fired. That's the most likely outcome if it's true he cheated.

You say no org in existance. Heroic did pretty much nothing with the hunden situation when it came out that the players knew about it

ALso the situation is scuffed. Pipson should be the main one being punished, and sanctions on the players. 2 year comp ban, no shot. First challanger event, yeah. DQ them from this main event, so they have to wait for next challengers.

also what the dude above was saying, is why would a team tell their CEO that they're cheating? Did f0rsaken tell optic he was gonna cheat on LAN? No. They'd try to hide it as much as they can.

#42
clocksky888
0
Frags
+

Haha, wait but what about G2's official team manager - Maik Löffler. Maybe we should burn him at the stake instead and not Pipson?

#43
Raevus
0
Frags
+

Then he should be punished.

Management who are hands on and close to the competing team should be punished.

Pipson should honestly know better than doing this. The guy has been in the esports scene for long enough to know what this entails.

If the manager was fully aware, and present during it. Then he should be punished. Players sanctioned, staff punished.

Anyone who was complicit with it should be punished. 2 year ban is a bit too much. DQing them from the event is perfectly fine imo.

#54
clocksky888
0
Frags
+

I see what you mean and agree with you. Though, It's a shame we have to get down to such details <3

#33
Ibis
0
Frags
+

Your right tho, if it’s true carlos should kick the whole roster

#47
Never_Wrong
0
Frags
+

Such an oversimplified view that gets to show how little you know about how a business works lol

Are you a kid? Never read something this stupid.

#56
Migz
0
Frags
+

Even though they cheat, they still lost.

#4
Syelf
1
Frags
+

could someone tell me what happened?

#6
WONDERWEISS
2
Frags
+

G2 abused the Coach Spectate feature to get a better overview of things and make someone IGL ing who isn#t allowed to.

#26
BaDa
0
Frags
+

uh oh that don't sound good

#7
ciro
1
Frags
+

coach igling a game

#8
Dest1ny
1
Frags
+

Pipson (g2 coach) was in vc with players during game and talking, coaches are only allowed to talk in timeouts per vct rules

#45
Viktor22
0
Frags
+

isnt there a referee in their comms when they are playing ??

#97
AcidRain
0
Frags
+

apparently pipson was living with nukkye and feeding comms to the team so they could have 5 fraggers which basically allowed them to evade the ref

#99
Viktor22
0
Frags
+

Ohh then he shouldnt be in the same room as nukkye if thats true then its shamefull for g2

#94
gweees
1
Frags
+

Hunden cam and their coach was in their teamspeak the whole game.

#10
cyk
0
Frags
+

Well, I don't think G2 will get banned even if they proved to cheat. LGD used to be caught for matchfixing but the punishment only involved in person level because they are franchising.

#13
justadude
2
Frags
+

nono you got it wrong according to some smart guys on this website, they cheated 100%. And for some reason pison was at nukkye house so he wouldn't be heard in comms and proof is that you can hear him in their comms.

#14
pvlcn
1
Frags
+

they should ban pipson for a while and maybe some kind of punishment to the players but that's it

#15
yungbasel
0
Frags
+

Who made the accusation and what's their proof

#16
Txiripas
2
Frags
+

In a video from the nukkye´s 1vs4 clutch we can hear Pipson screaming (the clip was shortened)

#17
pokedyo
3
Frags
+

a fan sent an analyst at lvp this video https://twitter.com/Kam1esports/status/1482204881171718147?s=20
and you can hear pipson screaming "nice nukkye" after a 1v4 clutch

#18
Txiripas
3
Frags
+

yeah, Nukkye deleted it and shortened it to this https://twitter.com/nukkye/status/1481713237192327168?s=20

#20
yungbasel
0
Frags
+

Thank you

#21
justadude
5
Frags
+

lol, I thought there would be something more interesting, Also couldn't it just be that pipson is in their teamspeak if that's even pipson, form what I heard you can make comments like that and admins will not punish you.

From people talking shit, I thought you can tell he is in nukkyes house or something xd.

#19
clocksky888
2
Frags
+

Thank you for being a voice of reason. I completely agree with you that any questionable situation should always be traced back to its source, which is always management. So far, we've only heard accusations made at one person, but we are yet to hear anything about the G2 or Giant management teams and their possible shady practises - if the entire scandal is proven to be true. IMHO if proven guilty, both the Giants and G2 management teams were most likely fully aware of the situation and probably encouraged its players and coaches to engage in such practices.

Regarding the penalty, I can't comment on the proposed two-year ban, which sounds a bit too excessive to me, but I believe that a penalty of some sort for the entire organisation/s (again, if found guilty) should be implemented by Riot.

#23
PrTsty
0
Frags
+

Why would G2 be punished for it tho lol. Just temporarily ban everyone on the roster for the 2nd qualifier and ban the coach for a whole year

#36
clocksky888
0
Frags
+

Because if G2 and Giants had failed to comply with Riot's rules of conduct by failing to manage their own staff (admins, coaches, analysts, and players), which in turn affected other teams/orgs in Riot's qualifications/tournaments, then it is entirely their own fault and not the player's - if they were found guilty. It is not some kind of conflict that can be resolved within the organisation. It's a full-fledged scandal that could affect previous quals and tournaments. Yes, orgs lose money running their businesses in Valorant, but that doesn't give them the right to neglect and bend the rules by employing "win at any cost" tactics. This is an extremely sensitive subject, tho LOL.

Furthermore, as a community, we should stand behind our pro-players or at the very least wait patiently for the conclusions, as false accusations can quickly ruin a player's career etc.

#63
PrTsty
0
Frags
+

u cant manage something thats happening without your knowledge because they tried to hide it

#71
WONDERWEISS
-2
Frags
+

Yea Mr. PrTsty. I would give you some examples how this is wrong but it wouldn't end well. If what you say is true, G2 would've dropped their Val Roster already because they have brought shame over the Org. Staying quiet about this case means nothing but they are all involved. In the end they don't play for fun. They play for a lot of Money and don't tell me G2 so rich they don't need any Trophy. They just wanna have some fun time in VCT Challengers.

#82
PrTsty
0
Frags
+

you're actually braindead lol, nothing has been proven yet and they are still investigating, why would G2 just reactivly drop their rosters, they have to investigate it themselves and find out who is guilty before they drop their rosters, and even than they will have discussion if and who will be dropped
you're actually 3head btw if you think companies will drop their 500k dollar roster 3h after accusation have come up

#84
ciro
0
Frags
+

Why would they drop their valorant roster so quickly lol, the investigations havent even started I guess, all this is just twitter speculation as of now. Just because a few guys on twitter and vlr.gg suspect them of cheating doesnt mean they are actually cheating

#85
WONDERWEISS
0
Frags
+

That's why they delete a Video within seconds. Let them investigate it and carlos tweet shit like "Found out nukkye and pipson are neighbours and we could hear just pipson screaming through walls". G2 best of the best.

#88
clocksky888
0
Frags
+

I get what you're saying, and while a situation involving cluleless Carlos is possible, in the real world, it's the head that gets punished, not the tail. If an organisation fails to monitor/manage its own employees' wrongdoings, the entire organisation is punished - no brainer.

#25
Gomes255
-1
Frags
+

Do you really think Carlos would know about it and let it happen..? What

#27
WONDERWEISS
-1
Frags
+

Oh yea play the "How could i ever know about this"-Card to get away with Cheating. Sounds like a good and balanced Card Game.

#28
Gomes255
1
Frags
+

No, knowing Carlos, do you really think he'd let this happen if he knew?

#29
VirajKnight
-2
Frags
+

Bro. Don't comment on this dumbass forum. It will get more attention if you comment more. This is an uneducated brain dead fuck using internet freedom to share some bullshit. lol

#37
WONDERWEISS
-3
Frags
+

I mean he booked a Plane just to carry a cringe Banner that was not even funny. "Fuck Sentinels"

#38
Arisqq
-3
Frags
+

SEN fangirl here lmao stop

#44
WONDERWEISS
0
Frags
+

Someone who thinks he knows Carlos in Person hero lmao stop

#46
Mortadelo
-1
Frags
+

What does knowing Carlos have to do with the fact that the “Fuck Sentinels” was funny af?? Literally everyone laughed but the “SEN fangirls”

#59
WONDERWEISS
2
Frags
+

People here saying Carlos would never do such things like they know him in Person. They know nothing about him except his cringe twitter baits and that's something i don't get. It's just weird everyone here talking like they go on vacation with Carlos. Haha

#50
Never_Wrong
-2
Frags
+

Holy shit... You're definitely 12. How does that reply to Gomes' question again

#66
Gomes255
-1
Frags
+

wtf does actually having good banter and humor have to do with cheating and being scummy

#73
WONDERWEISS
0
Frags
+

According to your "banter and humor" taste you must eat Chicken Nuggets with Nutella. I mean you're not wrong. There are People who find it fun to burn Money for some attention.

#77
Gomes255
-2
Frags
+

ok yea you're actually room temperature iq and salty and the fact that that also had nothing to do with it

#30
ciro
0
Frags
+

Yeah no big org would let it happen if they knew about it, especially because their brand image is at stake

#39
clocksky888
2
Frags
+

My young padavan, welcome to the real world.... It's known as the HUMAN NATURE. Due to SCARSITY, some individuals or groups will always try to win or profit at any cost, regardless of the stakes or brand image(as you state). Brands as large as Samsung, plus many, many and many of others, have been found guilty of numerous collusions, frauds, and other misdeeds. Shit is real, nah cap ;)

#76
Gomes255
-2
Frags
+

samsung and g2 are not even close to being the same type of company and im not talking about size wym

#86
clocksky888
4
Frags
+

What's your argument? What do you mean by your reply?

#31
Krlo
1
Frags
+

there are some tweets that proves that Ocelote may know about it.

https://twitter.com/Mixwell/status/1480867734116253698
here a guy ask Mixwell what happened with the bootcamp and Mix says that there han been some changes in the "PLAN".

https://twitter.com/CarlosR/status/1480982391573434373
and Oceote answering that tweet calling out the same shit

#49
ValdemieGC
1
Frags
+

The "PLAN" or "trust the PLAN" thing is just a meme, Ocelote is just playing with it, there is no way he knew any of this. he's not that stupid.

You would know if you watch F1 for example, there was some meme revolving F.Alonso and the "plan" for example. Just for the memes

#51
Never_Wrong
-1
Frags
+

The Plan is a F1 and G2 meme you brainlet

#52
ValdemieGC
0
Frags
+

Woah chill my friend xdd

#55
Never_Wrong
-4
Frags
+

He's braindamaged I swear

#62
WONDERWEISS
4
Frags
+

You make yourself looking like a Clown with your G2 flair. At least change it to something else to make yourself look like you're not defending your Lord Carlos.

#69
Never_Wrong
-3
Frags
+

Why would I do that? To act like an ashamed hypocrite such as yourself? Maybe he's one of the reasons I rep it? Thanks edgelord but I'm in my "right" to criticize or defend whatever I want.

If that's the best you can say it shows where's the haters' level at. Laughable

Expected from you and your comments))

Make it less obvious that you're a Sen fangirl that's offended because of G2 banter

Imagine

#32
trola
0
Frags
+

G2 catched too much L this week

#40
Glycoroldas
6
Frags
+

Let's see if Riot has the balls to do "Competitive Ruling: G2 Esports" 😈

#41
Krlo
3
Frags
+

they dont have any balls, they did nothing with G2 and their tampering accusations in LoL and that contract jail with Perkz

#53
Never_Wrong
-3
Frags
+

You went from being a diehard G2 fan to regurgitating the same useless stuff haters say only because your papi mixwell is benched. Double-sided scum

Which Perkz contract jail lmfaooo guy's lost

They did nothing because... There was nothing wrong maybe? Are you really talking about the "tampering" unproven accusations that happen every year and turned out to be ocelote gifting subs to Flakked in Twitch? And you ask why Riot did nothing? 😭

https://www.upcomer.com/g2-perkz-accused-player-tampering/

Been a thing since 2018 and not only with G2 lmao. Orgs are afraid their best players go to the better org and they throw around useless accusations

Watch out, don't watch someone else's streams nor go drink with them or they might accuse you of a made up rule :(

#87
Krlo
2
Frags
+

as I said many times, take Ocelote's dick out of ur mouth before talking to me bcs I dont get the shit u say, trying to defend G2
In fact I was a G2 fan but every time I saw the shit they were doing to every player they benched ruining their careers made me think twice and stop suporting this kind of behavior.

#89
Never_Wrong
-5
Frags
+

You're boring, repetitive, a liar... Cmon step it up, we all know you're trying to cling onto the dumbest reasons to hate on them ONLY because they benched your washed-up daddy. Cut that bs and be honest with your yourself. You didn't even criticize none of that (because there's simply nothing to criticize them for, lol), you just resort to insulting e-very-time. Is that it? Love how desperate you all are to make a point. Emotionality hits in and you become the biggest, shameless hypocrites.

Yes, the most prestigious org ruined Mixwell's career by... Actually building his entire career?
Who was he before G2 Valorant? This is literally the peak of his career LMAO. He would've become a content creator, luckily. If not for G2 and everything they gave him he'd be jobless rn lol.

Too bad he can't keep up with the org's ambitions and what he *signed up for, therefore he's rightfully benched (like any other player worldwide :o)

2 years being completely useless is not enough for you? Do you pay his salary? Judging by your poor understanding on these matters I'd say you're jobless too lmao

#95
Krlo
5
Frags
+

You're boring, repetitive, a liar

keep saying the same shit as an argument in every post.

#96
Never_Wrong
-5
Frags
+

When you don't have anything better nor new to say... You turned into a brainwashed bot. Kinda like your idol missing everything

You're either lying now or you were before...so yeah, liar

Lie all you want, what's sad is that you lie to yourself because of an esports player lmao

#57
R4BOCOP
1
Frags
+

Friendly reminder: NBS (Acend coach) was IGLing on the first Masters finals agains Team Heretics, and ACEND became champion

Nobody said nothing

#60
Tanizhq
10
Frags
+

We said a lot, Riot apologised to us, but because it technically wasn't in the rules for Masters 1, they couldn't do anything more except update the rulebook.
The case here is that it is very clearly not allowed, so it can be punished, completely different situation.

#68
trola
0
Frags
+

Sadge

#72
Never_Wrong
-1
Frags
+

Exactly. There wasn't any rules about it back then, thus nothing to punish them for

#80
R4BOCOP
0
Frags
+

okay, i didnt know about that

I love u thaniz

#81
VirajKnight
0
Frags
+

So Giants also should get punished right? xD

#64
hiyo
2
Frags
+

He wasn’t IGLing btw, he dropped in and talked to the players, which was legal.
Stfu stop trying to make false comparisons

#58
Never_Wrong
-3
Frags
+

"like for 2 years" not only he brings up Carlos out of nowhere but this fool also brought a ban out of his ass because G2 won and bantered Sentinels 😭

#61
WONDERWEISS
0
Frags
+

You guys make yourself look like naive Hobbits. Imagine trying to defend Carlos with a G2 flair.

#67
Never_Wrong
-4
Frags
+

As if there wasn't countless G2 fans that despise Carlos or as if there wasn't many brainlets such as yourself hating him for the dumbest reasons.

What am I defending and how is my G2 flair relevant? What'd be your "argument" if I had none? Do you even know how a small business works and the hierarchies it has, let alone a big org? You're so immature it's unbelieveable

#75
ValdemieGC
0
Frags
+

I don't see the correlation between having a G2 or a spanish flag (or things like that) and the incompatibility of defending Carlos, to be honest.

Sentinels acted cocky and G2 responded. There is really not much more to add.

#65
yaiima0
0
Frags
+

Imagine cheating and still losing KEKW

#78
gtngodyorukingdestruction
0
Frags
+

#JusticeForG2 #KeloqzDiedForThis

#79
coguyy
0
Frags
+

nukkye nooooo 😭😭😭😭

#90
Jkatona1
-1
Frags
+

For me G2 out of this vct. Banned pipsoN forever. The others playes of G2 for six months.

#91
KrixxyFTW
0
Frags
+

what happened

#93
rbvwolf1
1
Frags
+

wait... what?

#98
r0z
0
Frags
+

this seem more interesting 0_0

  • Preview
  • Edit
› check that that your post follows the forum rules and guidelines or get formatting help
Sign up or log in to post a comment