#1 Boaster
#2: Ethan
#3: FNS
#4: Saadhak
#5: Ange1
#6: nAts
#7: Redgar
#8: Forsaken
#9: Boostio
#10: JohnQT
#1 Boaster
#2: Ethan
#3: FNS
#4: Saadhak
#5: Ange1
#6: nAts
#7: Redgar
#8: Forsaken
#9: Boostio
#10: JohnQT
this is a very old list from mid 2025 I slightly changed and it is better:
IGL - Tier 1 Teams - Region
Ethan is a scam pick for a top IGL
He is a goat of a player sure
But not an igl
Because by that logic you would see nrg 24 and even early/mid nrg 25 be very successful because ethan was igling
Only after bonkar logged in and took of the mindwork of ethan did they really turn up
FNS was the igl early/mid 25
also its just disingenuous to discredit the insane work ethan is doing now and what he was doing at the later end of 2025 simply because he was the igl of a dysfunctional 2024 roster (he was in my opinion the best player on that team)
Wait didnt fns leave in mid 25? Or was it pre stage 2
And if youre asking
Ethan is a great micro caller. Understand that.
The macro, is all on bonkar, ethan just handles the micro.
And we see it work, when they have a good read on the team they're playing they completely wipe the floor of them
But when they dont (like their first prx game), they can get slapped out of their game
Personally. Bonkar deserves more credit than ethan for the IGL role. But as a micro caller ethan is top 5 (other micro callers can include zellsis, jonahP, etc.)
But when they dont (like their first prx game), they can get slapped out of their game
it’s even more disingenuous to base someone’s read off of their ability to read PRX of all teams, who are known to be the most unreadable, unpredictable mfs on the planet
i won’t deny the incredible impact bonkar has on the team, but ethan’s calling since stage 2 has been incredibly impressive and is part of the reason they went on this run to begin with, now he might be the only igl to go back to back champs and masters
Well they did close slap them on their second game together sooooooo i think it proves bonkar is very good at it
you can also base if off this new g2 style
ethan wasnt able to adapt fast enough to win against them
well i think it is crazy to put him at #2 right now
max top 6 (but prob around 8-12) (this is an all time list I think)
well he just started igl'ing mid february 24 and the team clearly looked better ever since that change then fns came back and it was a disaster then again ethan and they won champs some calls were master class and it's clear as day that his lead on top of fraggin was why they won champs:p
I mean i feel like the credit splits between the macro in bonkar and the micro in ethan
I mean utilizing those tactics at the correct time, utilizing ur teammates, mid round calling, and fragging. i'd argue that ethan should be around 3/4 and fns like 6/7 sure good calling but had one of the most stacked teams at the time and getting carried like he was going -15/-30 almost every series so i can't excuse that like he was as much of a relief for the team as he was a burden they also had chet who was one of the best coaches at the time + i dont remember nrg being resilient or comingback w fns clearly when the plan was crumbling under fns the whole game was slipping away
2024 Ethan igl and 2026 Ethan igl are very different. Definitely not a scam pick anymore he calls very well almost every game
crazy ass take considering the 2024 roster was bound to fail. Ethan was a new IGL with 4 international winners and the EGO that comes with it. Then proceeds to lead a team of rookies to a Champs finals after what seemed like a hopeless year. Wins champs. Proceeds to lose one of the best Controller players of all time and a roster change and makes top 3 at the next masters. IDK what you are on about lmfao
you said nothing. despite bonkar helping with the macro in prac bonkar cant do the mid rounding in game. The IGL still has to call the mid rounds. if you have watched the comms vids you can see that ethan genuinely calls good mid rounds. One example the walkout on 11-12 against EDG. A coach can help but they cant make you an IGL lmfao
stop putting nats on igl lists holy moly hes one of the best sentinels itw but his calling is not good enough for any lists
nAts said "let there be valorant" and created valorant you better stfu before our sepreme leader nAts burns you in fire of agony in eternity of samsara
even nats knows hes not good at calling this gimmick of glazinf nats as an igl is getting boring
oh nAts,
He That Separated the Light from the Deep and Set the Firmament in Its Course,
Who Was Before the Morning and Remaineth After the Evening,
by Whose Word the Heavens Were Stretched Forth and the Earth Was Established,
the Ancient Ordainer of Seasons and the Measurer of Days,
the One Before Whom the Stars Took Their Stations,
the Governor of the Upper Host and the Watcher Over the Frozen North,
Before Whom Snow and Fire Keep Their Covenant,
the Holder of the Wheel of Return and the Appointer of Lives Repeated,
Who Granteth Rebirth as Mercy and Withholdeth Rest as Judgment,
the Numberer of Souls and the Witness of Every End,
from Whose Will Proceedeth the Seraph of TL,
A Flame That Speaketh and a Fire That Obeyeth,
the Still One Whom Time Cannot Hasten,
the Authority Against Whom There Is No Answer,
the Name Uttered Before the First Dawn and Not Silenced at the Last Trumpet,
Who Abideth Without Peer, Without Change, and Without End.
this non-sense and paganism must be stopped
-poiuu20
yo we said Ethan should be in the top 10, not at #2 though. he's more like #8 or sumn
Initially I agree but who is better then him at the moment? Boaster sure, even though he beat him at champs. Valyn owns him but valyn doesn't have the same wins as Ethan. I don't rate fns above him that's for sure.
at the moment
if this is a current list then why the fuck am i looking at "FNS" "Saadhak" "Boostio" and "Ange1"
Valyn won way more regional trophies than Ethan, so you could argue he is way more consistent all time
FNS has more "wins" than Ethan as igl
Why the fuck is boostio here, he had one good tourney before vanishing off the face of the earth.
Edit: FORSAKEN ISN'T EVEN AN IGL, HE MIDROUNDS, D4V41 HAS BEEN THE IGL SINCE BENKAI LEFT
we don’t have an igl prx plays like a hivemind
its a flat structure compared to the top down igl structure others use
D4v41 had the IGL star on vlr before it vanished and now nobody has it,
makes most before barrier calls on comms videos
and almost everywhere aside from one comment made by mini BEFORE THE JOINED THEIR TEAM DURING RETIREMENT
said that D4v41 was the igl and that has not changed
F0rsaken is a great midrounder and calling swaps between D4v41 and him sometimes, but no team puts IGL on yoru, not even a team as crazy as PRX. D4v41 calls most of the time though, especially on yoru maps.
jamppi yoru igl exists, and forsaken is widely known to be the main caller for prx
boostio is a very good caller
he won champs, got good results in tokyo and also lead 100t to shanghai
*Demon1 won champs, none of the other players did except maybe jawg. But that EG team was mostly just the demon1show, if he died they most of the time just lost.
He had 1 other result (top 4 at shanghai which albeit was pretty good) but aside from that what did he do?
On eg before demon1 he was absolute dogshit, even while still having Potter, C0M, and Jawgemo Aka the WHOLE FUCKING CORE OF THE CHAMPS ROSTER.
Boostio is not a top 10 igl, I'd argue not even top 20.
how tho its not like he was carried he was the one going in first along with jaw dying for the team and calling around demon1
i feel like your argument seems to always be the coach is carrying
I made that argument once, That's definitely not always
Only reason I even bring UP potter was because she was on that roster. Where was boostio when he actually had to just call and not have the best jett in the world at the time to send in? He still had a majority of that winning roster where were the results before?
Where are his other international appearances before then?
Where are his international successes after joining 100T? Again top 4 at shanghai is good but its nowhere near 1st at champs and 2nd at masters against arguably the best team in the world at the time.
he was part of the team
he was the igl
if you placed any other player in his position they are not winning like they did
he called around his star player hence your narrative of “demon1 carried him”
which isnt even true
Does prx even have a formal IGL?
All i know is everyone is comming
Boostio was a phenomenal IGL even on 100T, his fragging was just ass. I hope he makes a comeback when he's ready
Okay if he was so phenomenal where was he before picking up demon1 in 2023?
What great results before then puts him with the best igl's of all time?
so because he chose to call around his star player instead of whatever you think makes a good igl hes somehow a bad igl?
A good igl needs to be able to call around a star player and achieve similar success without one.
Okay but where was this when Boostio had cryo, bang, and asuna? Two amazing players at the time and the best smokes player in NA. You got one decent result at an international then failed to even qualify? Even if a leader isn't mechanically gifted if he's the first guy to go then you know the calling wasn't right.
he was 1 position off qualifying from champs?
you’re acting like he got shit on after shanghai and got 12th in the americas
Name one trophy winner in the past three years who won without "calling around a star player"
NRG at champs, and a few others outside of your past 3 years rangs.
Calling around a good player is important, but when you cannot successfully call without having the best player in the world at the time ready to go in then you aren't one of the best IGL's in the world
He was learning and improving as an IGL...? Do you expect people to just pop out of the womb with these skills?
There's like 5 IGLs who have been top of tier 1 across multiple years, let alone multiple rosters. You have to judge them by their peaks to make any sort of list beyond that
Need ppl to keep making these lists but slowly keep moving Redgar up the rankings lmao
no the theory is that bonkar is deadlifting the macro, there is a reason NRG is the only team that doesn’t invest as heavily in the double duelist meta
https://www.vlr.gg/638679/ethan-and-igling
This is my post that explains my opinion on the team
I guess I thought that the coach was meant to handle the macro and the igl handles the in game calls and the implementation of the overall game plan but idk
I mean its team based.
What im familiar with for igls
They handle like 40% macro and 60% micro in a normal system.
Deviations do exist but this is just my opinion
nats as an igl is so overrated i swear
qualifying on memea is not that hard compared to amer and apac