I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Utility wasn’t an issue in SENs past roster. JonahP won’t help fix SEN but y’all don’t know that yet
Sen jonahp hot take
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why we acting like jonahp was just a utility bot 💔he's known for his utility but his aim is good and he's one of the smartest players in game
Cairozin [#2]He will help with calling, which was an issue
True but firepower issues will continue to haunt them
cameran [#5]True but firepower issues will continue to haunt them
I think you're overestiming how important gunplay is
uwukitten [#4]why we acting like jonahp was just a utility bot 💔he's known for his utility but his aim is good and he's one of the smartest players in game
Aim was only good in certain moments. He also crumbles under pressure a lot (ex: drx game, had a rare bad game all of a sudden and dropped 2 kills last map)
cameran [#5]True but firepower issues will continue to haunt them
Was firepower even an issue for them?
Cairozin [#7]I think you're overestiming how important gunplay is
in a meta like this, mechanical capabilities are as important as they have ever been
i mean it does fix roles a bit. reduxx jonahp works better as duelist and initiator than n4rrate in both roles
he maybe wont be enough for the team to be up there winning it all but right now they need stability and leadership more than anything else
in the previous roster they had john only doing that and you saw the performances of cortezia and reduxx suffer as a result
he is a steady pair of hands and im not going to entertain the idea that someone thats been to as many internationals as him is some kind of bum
Cairozin [#7]I think you're overestiming how important gunplay is
It remains very important still. M8 only won rn because they have a team with good firepower
catNmouse [#9]Was firepower even an issue for them?
everyone except john had a negative rating this split
catNmouse [#9]Was firepower even an issue for them?
Yea. Fns kinda said it too, saying how SEN just lacks firepower and thats why they weren’t close to being a top team
I actually am so confused as to why people think jonah is good you put any decent flex on that g2 team last year and you get the exact same results if not better
twigster001 [#10]in a meta like this, mechanical capabilities are as important as they have ever been
Jonah's already clean with it, i'm just saying he doesn't need to become marteen
Cairozin [#7]I think you're overestiming how important gunplay is
jonahp gets rounds out of his ass when he was on g2 bro he might be a bad fragger but the clutch potential is there
It's just bandwagoners bro. They think talking about utility and the intangibles make them sound smarter. People been acting like he is a top 5 player. I don't get it.
SaltyMcNulty [#19]It's just bandwagoners bro. They think talking about utility and the intangibles make them sound smarter. People been acting like he is a top 5 player. I don't get it.
Top 5 support player, + secondary igl on G2 are not intangibles, this game is not cod
Unrelated but u might be part of the reason why sen fans are so hated. Can u stop posting?
Cairozin [#20]Top 5 support player, + secondary igl on G2 are not intangibles, this game is not cod
A support player has good assist stats playing on a team that won more often than no! Shocker! People talk about his invisible impact but G2 are still winning so ig they haven't been missing his 'impact' that much!
SaltyMcNulty [#22]A support player has good assist stats playing on a team that won more often than no! Shocker! People talk about his invisible impact but G2 are still winning so ig they haven't been missing his 'impact' that much!
got lucky that this meta fits their roster, the moment it goes to anything else they will likely struggle + they’re likely to not make top 4 at a masters for the first time since shanghai
foythvlr [#11]i mean it does fix roles a bit. reduxx jonahp works better as duelist and initiator than n4rrate in both roles
Thats true
Clucker [#21]Unrelated but u might be part of the reason why sen fans are so hated. Can u stop posting?
Im not a sen fan lol. Why would I influence other sen fans to be hated. N4rrate, zekken, and kaplan all left so im gone too. i wouldve been supporting the jonah pick up like a typical delusional sen fanboy but now im not since i know the truth
eKay [#12]he maybe wont be enough for the team to be up there winning it all but right now they need stability and leadership more than anything else
in the previous roster they had john only doing that and you saw the performances of cortezia and reduxx suffer as a result
he is a steady pair of hands and im not going to entertain the idea that someone thats been to as many internationals as him is some kind of bum
Thats true. hopefully his leadership will be something thatll help sen!
KOLLLY [#16]I actually am so confused as to why people think jonah is good you put any decent flex on that g2 team last year and you get the exact same results if not better
Thats what Ive been saying too lol
SaltyMcNulty [#19]It's just bandwagoners bro. They think talking about utility and the intangibles make them sound smarter. People been acting like he is a top 5 player. I don't get it.
Deadass LMFAO. Idk why so much people are hyping him up now too
cameran [#25]Im not a sen fan lol. Why would I influence other sen fans to be hated. N4rrate, zekken, and kaplan all left so im gone too. i wouldve been supporting the jonah pick up like a typical delusional sen fanboy but now im not since i know the truth
"know the truth" lol
We always end up saying the same things in the same threads, just switching out names.
If the Tenz rumors are real there should be enough fire between him/John/Cortez/Reduxx/Jonah for them to be a reasonably competitive top half team
SaltyMcNulty [#22]A support player has good assist stats playing on a team that won more often than no! Shocker! People talk about his invisible impact but G2 are still winning so ig they haven't been missing his 'impact' that much!
They won because of his support, not because he happened to end up on a roster that would win anyways
itsauproblematp [#28]bro's back to being a sen flair after all the flair changes
LMFAO
Diffractiongrating [#32]If the Tenz rumors are real there should be enough fire between him/John/Cortez/Reduxx/Jonah for them to be a reasonably competitive top half team
thats true
s0n is beyond saving. Its about time they disband and rebuild their roster because the current roster is pathetic and will not make it to regional playoffs, mark my words
SezeUnaktu [#40]still bitchin and moaning about sentinels. stfu already
nah ur gangster doe
SezeUnaktu [#40]still bitchin and moaning about sentinels. stfu already
shush s0n fan
cameran [#34]Correct
Idek know what to say to you bro. Thank god you took off the SEN flair. Gn
Clucker [#44]Idek know what to say to you bro. Thank god you took off the SEN flair. Gn
ill put it back on later, i just put it on to bait someone in another post
and what am i saying thats false? its true
cameran [#45]ill put it back on later, i just put it on to bait someone in another post
and what am i saying thats false? its true
So are you a sen fan or 100T fan or just a baiter?
cameran [#5]True but firepower issues will continue to haunt them
They won Madrid and got top 4 at champs with Zellsis and Sacy (no slander to my goat but his firepower wasn't that high), this roster literally has better firepower on each role except maybe a little bit less from Zekken to Reduxx. The problem was never firepower they have a top 3 raw potential team in Americas right now they just need better IGLing.
DBStudios [#51]They won Madrid and got top 4 at champs with Zellsis and Sacy (no slander to my goat but his firepower wasn't that high), this roster literally has better firepower on each role except maybe a little bit less from Zekken to Reduxx. The problem was never firepower they have a top 3 raw potential team in Americas right now they just need better IGLing.
That was a different meta they got that tho. That was the time where double initiator was way more viable over anything. Leadership was what helped SEN during this meta.
Now we are in a double duelist meta with insta pushes being key to winning, people have to know how to hit their shots to close rounds
Bro would probably be making this same post if Sacy came back. Like jonahp brings more than just better util, he brings an active voice that will help with in the midround. Unlike what Sen had during kickoff where even kyu the igl was hardly talking.
GodAwfulGod [#53]Bro would probably be making this same post if Sacy came back. Like jonahp brings more than just better util, he brings an active voice that will help with in the midround. Unlike what Sen had during kickoff where even kyu the igl was hardly talking.
true but still
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