Disrespectful to call EWC Mickey Mouse

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Forget about all the controversy for a second. I completely understand people have different opinions.

Lets just look at what it means to the players for a second.

Specfically what it meant to the heretics players and then you call it a mickey mouse? Imo you're just lying to yourself. Its completely disrespectful to them. They shed tears for that and you're saying it doesn't mean anything?

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No lower bracket

Simple

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welikefortniteandvalorant

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no lower bracket = mickey mouse
XD val fanbase brain

FIFA world cup = mickey mouse

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Val is way easier to lose

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darkhorse08

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Maybe take a look at the CS major format with b/o1s and no lower bracket, and call it Mickey Mouse, too.

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Jayde

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U can get a one and done and the other team is done for

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darkhorse08

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what r u waffling

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https://www.vlr.gg/482511/team-liquid-vs-bbl-esports-champions-tour-2025-emea-stage-1-playoffs-lr3/?game=215404&tab=overview
U cannot do anything against stuff like this, u will just lose and if u lose that well...

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then maybe just win

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Jayde

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Im too low elo for that sorry

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unfertile

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you're still my boo

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Jayde

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Get away from me baiter🤧

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They literally called Shanghai mickey mouse for that EXACT reason since Flyquest and a few other teams just farmed Bo1s and then ate shit at the bo3 hurdle

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Why are you comparing the fifa world cup to a valorant match like that was some sort of intelligent response? You didn’t even make an argument, you literally just said “but have you consider soccer” and you got positive frags for it. This website is cooked lmao.

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Then the fifa world cup is a mickey...

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Guess you've never watched a CS2 major?

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Some people haven't been exposed to CS before Valo so it's fair to assume that they haven't

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I don't care. Single elim is a worse format.

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Sure, I'm not a huge fan of it either. Doesn't make it mickey mouse tho.

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this game is a copy of cs and that game doesnt have lower brackets either

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Jayde

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Val is a game where u can impact the entire game by strats/comps u can cook up some random comps that will only work for one game and bam. Georgia has just knocked out brazilia (to speak in football terms)

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That's just part of the game tho. Both teams could do that and the best wins. If one team decides not to and loses as a result, the better strategy team won?

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Idt u get it, these things can backfire if ur expected to win u dont want to take risks as this stuff can backfire. A good example is fnc haven as changing comps can backfire

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I'm not sure the haven comp was a one and done tho.

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There was one for the group stages tho?

This is just the regular quarters semis finals format that most sports have anyway.

Single elim playoffs is not much worse than a crippling 2 map ban + 1st map pick advantage that upper bracket team gets in the finals in vct

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lockin mickey mouse then?

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I guess 2024 kickoff and Berlin masters was mickey mouse then idiot

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it was gonna be a lose lose situation for them anyways
win = mickey mouse tournament doesn’t count
lose = perpetual chokers
i don’t think they rly care what vlr users say tho

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So if winning a soop tournament means a lot to a player does that make it a major?

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Jawsome

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Was ewc an 8 team event with top competitors such as Made In Thailand and Rapid Lofi?

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teilwal

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those 2 teams qualified to be there so i dont see the discrepency

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Unincognito

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Theres a lot of differences with that, that I'm not even going to entertain it. Even FNS jokes about SOOP and doesn't have the same opinion for EWC.

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Warlordwibz

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Benjy fortnite $$$
Benjy EWC $$$

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IF EWC IS A MICKEY, REMEMBER REJAVIK AND BERLIN PEOPLE WERE PLAYING ON 120 FPS PCS

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kiyuri

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donald duck tournament

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It’s not Mickey Mouse when 16 teams are playing which is more than first masters so TH take the money and should be happy on their win

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So Lock in is Mickey as well huh

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SleepingSnorlax

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It’s the first masters which is Mickey with less than 10 teams lock in 32 and ewc 16

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Who cares if they fucking cried? They’re crying over a trophy with the same value as a regional

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Didn't know regionals have 500K payout crazy.

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When did I mention payout? I said the TROPHY?

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Doesn't make much sense ngl lol

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What would a G2 fan know about the value of trophies? This is not mickey mouse, if anything this is above Bangkok, the teams were picked on regional split results + a qualifier, there's 4 teams per region that even masters don't have, (2 team masters are a joke) and the prize pool is bigger.

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ts is not above bangkok 😭😭

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cumbackderkepls

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Is that why your fluke ass team got shit on in ts

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lofi

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Fnatic fan accidentally makes fun of their own regions team to own the yanks lmao “If anything this is above Bangkok” yeah you accidentally leaked your iq with this reply unfortunate

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cumbackderkepls

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? How am I making fun of "own region team"??? Talk about IQ.

EWC > Bangkok

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lofi

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It’s a G2 Gozen flair you low iq remedial gov assisted wheel chair bound helmet wearing velcro laced shoe can-only-bowl-with-bumper-rails small classroom sized dunce

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Jayde

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G2 wouldve cried abt it too, give them their win, they deserve it

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gozen flair

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Jayde

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My bad😑 i always forget

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Awful productions rivaling EMEA production at times plus gsl style tournament, single elimination and weird scheduling. Hopefully next year they fix these things

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Unincognito

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Sure the production fine. Single elimination isn't an argument despite everyone saying it. Other esports have single elimination specifically CS2 MAJOR???

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cs major has like 30 teams and goes on across several weeks

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what makes cs2 early major stages different from just a regular qualifier? because they are played at the venue?

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Seinzist

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Fair point but other games like CS2 has like over 20+ teams so single elimination is pretty much the only viable thing...

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Unincognito

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It still doesn't justfiy just saying "single elimination = mickey mouse" Like #2

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Single elim is not a problem. BO1s are tho. Those were my only complaint with this event. If they were all BO3s this event would've been Champs level

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Problem is that awful schedule smack dab in the gap between masters 2 and stage 2 with like china starting a week prior

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I would blame that more on scheduling which is also kinda Riots fault more than the event as a whole.

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it is mickey mouse but a win is a win, there are barely any 3rd party tournaments unlike in other esports so these pros play so much less so, if there is an opportunity to play then it is nice, big bonus that they get good money from it

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Imo that just makes it a mickey mouse to the delusional fans who can't accept when their team loses a major event.

FNC flair btw :)