Where does kaajak rank among emea duelists
Where does he rank in all duelists in every region
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Ronyko23 [#6]flor hahahahahhah
i am positive if they 1v1 each other that flor would mid diff him
ArterieX [#8]i am positive if they 1v1 each other that flor would mid diff him
Flor is just click with better pr.Infact click won agaiinst apeks lol
ArterieX [#8]i am positive if they 1v1 each other that flor would mid diff him
if they 1v1 xdddddddddd i love these type of arguments
- derke
- xeus
- kaajak
- kamo
- marteen
- lewn
- florescent
- ara
- koalaboob
- click
- filu
- nepoboo
DBStudios [#7]Prob top 3 in EMEA but maybe top 20 itw realistically
He would be top 1 in Ch0na
ArterieX [#5]Derke Woot keiko lewn xeus maybe flor
Still disrespecting miniboo, that's crazy
Cacachocolat [#15]He would be top 1 in Ch0na
heretics top 1 at being runner ups lol china would never lose 0-3 to lulquid
Cacachocolat [#15]He would be top 1 in Ch0na
kk, kai, whzy, rarga, stew clears
- Derke
- Xeus
- Miniboo
- Marteen
- Kaajak
- Kamo
- Lewn
- Florescent
- Koalanoob
- Filu
- Ara
- Click
Ara looked really good but it would be disrespectful to put him much higher after one single game. However he could climb up really fast with more good games.
Currently there is a bit of a gap after 7th place. The top 7 seem really strong. The other still have more to prove or have some issues.
honestly depends if he has an OP in his hands or not. probably top 2 with OP so far, world probably somewhere in top 10.
his rifling is abit worse but id say that more bad moments than him in general.
what i am incredibly impressed about is the way and how fast he turned it around from a rough start and didnt let it affect him with being derke replacement and all the comparisons that came with derke absolutely wrecking everyone at the start.
luminescience [#14]
- derke
- xeus
- kaajak
- kamo
- marteen
- lewn
- florescent
- ara
- koalaboob
- click
- filu
- nepoboo
Nepoboo is at the top of acs in emea btw
Congo1 [#20]
- Derke
- Xeus
- Miniboo
- Marteen
- Kaajak
- Kamo
- Lewn
- Florescent
- Koalanoob
- Filu
- Ara
- Click
Ara looked really good but it would be disrespectful to put him much higher after one single game. However he could climb up really fast with more good games.
Currently there is a bit of a gap after 7th place. The top 7 seem really strong. The other still have more to prove or have some issues.
id say koalanoob->flor in terms of personal performance, both have had good performances on non functioning teams tho but thats just my opinion.
also lewn high ceiling but horrible decisionmaking which literally loses his team rounds, so i feel like he should be lower even tho his ceiling is NUTS.
overall decent list tho. if miniboo plays the same today id say miniboo->xeus. but again, personal opinion.
Ronyko23 [#12]xeus & lewn looks better indv. Better than derke atm.
xeus i might agree with but lewn so far is so feast or famine, he wins the round and loses it 5 seconds after. but Derke performance up to the fnatic game cannot be understated either. i think that game might have rocked vitalitys mental.
its like 2023 fnatic after Loud exposed their lotus to the world, they werent the same for a long time.
also you never know how much chem there was between trexx and derke so that might have changed a fair amount aswell
Soddalele [#23]id say koalanoob->flor in terms of personal performance, both have had good performances on non functioning teams tho but thats just my opinion.
also lewn high ceiling but horrible decisionmaking which literally loses his team rounds, so i feel like he should be lower even tho his ceiling is NUTS.
overall decent list tho. if miniboo plays the same today id say miniboo->xeus. but again, personal opinion.
Lewn is very clearly 7th to me. Clearly worse than top 6 but also clearly better than the ones below him. He just needs time in T1 to learn discipline. I cant put him below guys like koala who cant entry with rifle.
Also Flors agent Pool seems problematic to me. Needs to learn yoru.
However flor entries better than koala. But ofc koala has the great OP as a plus.
Congo1 [#25]Lewn is very clearly 7th to me. Clearly worse than top 6 but also clearly better than the ones below him. He just needs time in T1 to learn discipline. I cant put him below guys like koala who cant entry with rifle.
Also Flors agent Pool seems problematic to me. Needs to learn yoru.
However flor entries better than koala. But ofc koala has the great OP as a plus.
u got a point. i dont think flor even neeeds to learn yoru imo, batu looks very good on yoru but uncomfy on alot of other agents.
i think flor has the maturity to flex more than batu ATM
OR just play double duelist.
in terms of kajaak tho, if he gets an OP he looks like a top 3 EMEA, might be Bias tho but kids insane with the OP
Borge_heheheha [#18]heretics top 1 at being runner ups lol china would never lose 0-3 to lulquid
everyone in china would except edg
The fact Derke is one of the 3 duelist with a KD < 1ios quite saddening, we shouldnt put him top 1
Soddalele [#26]u got a point. i dont think flor even neeeds to learn yoru imo, batu looks very good on yoru but uncomfy on alot of other agents.
i think flor has the maturity to flex more than batu ATM
OR just play double duelist.
in terms of kajaak tho, if he gets an OP he looks like a top 3 EMEA, might be Bias tho but kids insane with the OP
Sure. But his rifle needs to improve. I know he can do it due to his T2 time but he needs to show it on T1.
So far Marteen has been absolutely incredible. He would be my stage 1 #1. I have him lower due to respect for Derke and his weakness late last year.
Also Miniboo played a perfect stage so far. Cannot put him below kaajak.
So it has to be 5th for now
Anguibok [#28]The fact Derke is one of the 3 duelist with a KD < 1ios quite saddening, we shouldnt put him top 1
That is very reactionary.
Vitality struggled a bit so what? He was shared MVP of Bangkok with chichoo. That just happened...
ArterieX [#8]i am positive if they 1v1 each other that flor would mid diff him
They literally did
Bigfish [#22]Nepoboo is at the top of acs in emea btw
just because he had once in a lifetime performance against shaky vitality that doesn't make him good
bE [#11]derke > miniboo > woot > kamo > kaajak in emea
prob top 15 itw
bro miniboo shat on derke in the vit vs th
Congo1 [#29]Sure. But his rifle needs to improve. I know he can do it due to his T2 time but he needs to show it on T1.
So far Marteen has been absolutely incredible. He would be my stage 1 #1. I have him lower due to respect for Derke and his weakness late last year.
Also Miniboo played a perfect stage so far. Cannot put him below kaajak.
So it has to be 5th for now
yea id argue miniboo for 1/2 with marteen on current form. im not arguing kajaak higher im just saying he might even be top 1 with OP specifically
But yea saying anything else than derke nr.1 would be dishonest af. guys been top 5 ITW for 3+ years IMO
just to add on koalanoob, he has the highest FKPR in EMEA, thats why i value him over flor atm. NAVI just dont capitalize of it nearly enaugh
Anguibok [#28]The fact Derke is one of the 3 duelist with a KD < 1ios quite saddening, we shouldnt put him top 1
I think trexx and derke had good chem. also the whole team seems a little out of sorts when 1v1's arent won. thats not on derke
luminescience [#32]just because he had once in a lifetime performance against shaky vitality that doesn't make him good
no bias found here
Soddalele [#37]I think trexx and derke had good chem. also the whole team seems a little out of sorts when 1v1's arent won. thats not on derke
I'm not saying thats on Derke, i'm saying that being under 1 KD (0.91) make me think I cant put top 1 anymore, he's got same KD as Avova's... Even flor have 1.06.
I'm not saying he is not a good duelist, or he wont be the best duelist at the end of the year, I'm saying that putting top 1 a duelist that currently in a crisis sounds exaggerated. (You can even put him top 3 if you want)
Anguibok [#39]I'm not saying thats on Derke, i'm saying that being under 1 KD (0.91) make me think I cant put top 1 anymore, he's got same KD as Avova's... Even flor have 1.06.
I'm not saying he is not a good duelist, or he wont be the best duelist at the end of the year, I'm saying that putting top 1 a duelist that currently in a crisis sounds exaggerated. (You can even put him top 3 if you want)
its still reactionary like congo says, tier lists should never be who is top1 in current form, cus that could put lewn both top or bottom every map thats played
Soddalele [#40]its still reactionary like congo says, tier lists should never be who is top1 in current form, cus that could put lewn both top or bottom every map thats played
Isnt the contrary of reactionary ? I my understanding of the word its when you want the past.
Anyway in that case they need to precise the time we take in account if the last games doesnt count
Anguibok [#41]Isnt the contrary of reactionary ? I my understanding of the word its when you want the past.
Anyway in that case they need to precise the time we take in account if the last games doesnt count
id say its different from one player to the next IMO. Derke in my opinion has been a top5 duelist ITW for 3 years and has delivered to that level this year and even looked better at times.
so U KNOW what quality is in him and how he delivers NORMALLY.
kajaak as an example, have not been tested yet, how does he react to dips in form, team chem going to shit ETC.
This is why i struggle so much with lewn personally cus that boy is like a bouncy ball. u know he has it in him but just "FUCKING FOCUS" yaknow?
luminescience [#32]just because he had once in a lifetime performance against shaky vitality that doesn't make him good
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1925/champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff
Once in a lifetime!
Congo1 [#20]
- Derke
- Xeus
- Miniboo
- Marteen
- Kaajak
- Kamo
- Lewn
- Florescent
- Koalanoob
- Filu
- Ara
- Click
Ara looked really good but it would be disrespectful to put him much higher after one single game. However he could climb up really fast with more good games.
Currently there is a bit of a gap after 7th place. The top 7 seem really strong. The other still have more to prove or have some issues.
i would put kaajak above marteen but overall good list
Tomczi [#44]i would put kaajak above marteen but overall good list
marteen highest rated this split, dont think u can lower him just going by that.
KINGMANNY42 [#34]bro miniboo shat on derke in the vit vs th
recency bias, derke was carrying at bangkok + kickoff
Borge_heheheha [#18]heretics top 1 at being runner ups lol china would never lose 0-3 to lulquid
TL would beat all Chinese teams not named EDG
Cacachocolat [#15]He would be top 1 in Ch0na
Fr0nch talking come back here when your people don't go and attack another team
ArterieX [#5]Derke Woot keiko lewn xeus maybe flor
DERKE, XEUS, MARTEEN, ARA, KAAJAK, ALFAJER, MINIBOO > FLOR
FLOR > koalanoob and FILU
DBStudios [#49]Fr0nch talking come back here when your people don't go and attack another team
Ok Ch0nese fake flagger
miniboo is better derke is better xeus clears with high diff maybe pile is lewn,kamo and marteen is worse but on his high highs he could match him if he beats TH and diff miniboo this is all null and void and he is competeing for 1st if not 1st out right
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