fnatic "superteam"

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eumph

nobody said leo was best initiator before joining
nobody said alfa was best senti before joining
nobody said boaster was best igl
nobody said derke was best duelist
chronicle was best flex yea

it wasnt until fnatic dominated all competition that they were called a superteam
stop this narrative

EDIT: people disregard their achievements by saying theyre a superteam.
im trying to do them a favor by dispelling that narrative.

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jawn

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so we're lying now

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eumph

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people said shao/sacy and suygetsu/less were best ini/senti
nobody had boaster as best igl
only few people had derke as best duelist

how am i lying?

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vitzsu

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no one said sacy was better than leo if you take loud fans outta the equation

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jawn

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dawg what? sacy was the best initiator in the world coming into 2023

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unknown_trash

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lies. if only you watched 2022 guild and how good leo's sova was. he became best sova in the world from back then. people just didnt see him because of no clout.

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jawn

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so you had leo above sacy,shao and crashies yeah right lmaooo

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unknown_trash

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absolutely. i will say this for the 1000th time, but the guild core of leo, sayf and trexx would have been best in the world. leo had insane ults and shock darts with crazy numbers since even 2021 but no one had guild on their radar until after they went to lan, and still they were underrated because of russ and koldamenta. leo has been the goat for so long.

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eumph

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well we're talking about public perception, not who YOU thought the goat was

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unknown_trash

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you asked me if i had leo above them. i did and im sure anyone actually watching guilds matches would have too.

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eumph

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that wasnt me
and yes i knew guild were insane

continue thread →

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jawn

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they were all best in slot in EMEA, just look up any thread pre lock-in they were one of the favourites and were called superteams alongside SEN,C9

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eumph

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they were called a superteam because they were the BEST team on paper.
which is not what a superteam is

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LouBag

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0/8

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jawn

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i'm not getting gaslit like this

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LuffyVlr

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They were def on the conversation for the best in their respective roles in EMEA at least.

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vitzsu

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they were always recognized as at least one of the best in their roles

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TeoEmil

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Alfa boaster and derke got acquired before they got the super team title.

Leo and Sayf were the only reason Guild had any international and regional success and was considered the best initiator in emea.

Chronicle’s resume speaks for itself.

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Soddalele

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fnatic was called a superteam by nearly everyone before franchise started?

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azureblade101

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legit everyone knew all of them were INSANE individual pieces before they came together

what the fuck are you smoking retard

you do realize ur disrespecting those players by saying that right?

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eumph

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nope. people disregard their achievements by saying theyre a superteam.
im trying to do them a favor by dispelling that narrative.

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Vianx11

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boaster still aint best igl its chadhak
kronikel always been best flex
alfa alr had insane aim
leo was underrated yes
derke still havent been best duelist

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sad_gambit_fan

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chronicle wasnt even flex before joining fnatic bro what
he played duelist for gambit/m3c
alfa had a role change (was considered one of the best razes itw with jingg/aspas/victor
derke literally was xD
leo was what trexx/cloud is now underrated but people know tehy can be world class if they have a good team
boaster was the only one people thought were overrated

and everyone called it a super team before lock in

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eumph

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chronicle played duelist?
did we forget deffo exists "sad gambit fan"?
and alfa flexed sentinel/raze

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sad_gambit_fan

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he played flex 2021 , played flex till split 2 (before cph) 2022
d3ffo then switched to flex cuz he wasnt consistent on duelist and after that they dropped d3ffo for jady and chronicle was duelist
when fnc picked him up it was right after lcq 2022

2022 meta was mainly fade raze chamber so alfa barely played pure sentinel

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Vianx11

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tell me how did chronicle not flex

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Vianx11

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dude aint no way you are a gmb fan and saying kroni didnt flex

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sad_gambit_fan

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he picked up duelist and chamber in 2022 , d3ffo went flex for split 2 (after iceland/before cph qualifers)

and for LCQ d3ffo was replaced by jady and chronicle played duelist/chamber

ive watched all of their games xD so i know bro xD

some fun facts top of my head

sheydos has played sova/skye/kayo/sage/breach
nats sentinel and even astra (didnt play kj choose to play astra over her)
redgar can literally play everything
chronicle can also play everything he took over kj on ascent where nats played astra
d3ffo was the only one who couldnt flex till cph qualifers XDD

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Vianx11

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doesnt make any sense
his peak was in 2021
when he flexed

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Vianx11

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even i ve watched all of their games bro
i ve been watching them since masters cis

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gutszeraa

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fnatic were called a super team as soon as leo and chronicle joined
stopped rewriting history

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whysoup

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they were widely regarded as an EMEA superteam
Boaster was known as a good tier 1 igl but always had to micro super hard
Derke was always a safe pick for a duelist since he can play anything at a strong level in terms of duelist
alfa was the biggest question mark since hes still really young but he came into his own last season
Leo was regarded top 3-5 initiators in EMEA
and Chronicle is him
You dont need to be top 1 in every spot to be a superteam just need to be up there

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eumph

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so every good team is a superteam? ok

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Zerphyr1

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this can be said for any other team. also derke was considered best duelist itw for a bit

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ValdemieGC

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everybody say leo is best initiator now
everybody say alfa is best senti now
everybody say boaster is best igl now
everybody say derke is best duelist now
chronicle is best flex yea

that's why a superteam is called a superteam 👈💪

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eumph

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i agree. im trying to push back against people downplaying fnatics achievements just because theyre a superteam

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unknown_trash

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but they ARE a superteam. no one in the EMEA league is objectively better than any of the FNC players. good players with strong mechanics gets wins. why are they the only team to win back to back trophies? was fns a worse igl than boaster? was engh a worse coach than mini? no. fnatic just had the team diff every time. even against loud at lockin, it was individual plays that got fnatic the win on icebox. dont say that people are downplaying achievements when its true that fnatic won because they were a superteam.

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eumph

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all im hearing is fnatic won because theyre the best.
"superteam" has no meaning
if fpx had won champs and all stayed together for franchising, they would be the super team
IT HAS NO MEANING

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ValdemieGC

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wise words

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eumph

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see look at the guy above u

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beaver_man

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You’re getting hate for no reason lol. Before lock-in started people had liquid ranked way higher as the true eu ‘superteam’. Then only after fnatic started winning did everyone hop on the bandwagon

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eumph

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thank you beaver_man

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loapoarg

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You call a superteam when individual players are best in their role in that region so boaster was top 2 igl EMEA, d0rke is top duelist EMEA,Leo was best sova EMEA, Alfajer was super rookie of EMEA,and chronicle was gambits 2nd best player and also world class flex there is nothing wrong in EMEA fans calling this a super team

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eumph

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theres nothing wrong with it. there is something wrong with people dismissing fnc trophies because theyre a "superteam"