fnatic "superteam"

#33

eumph

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that wasnt me
and yes i knew guild were insane

#35

unknown_trash

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oh i see ok never mind but my point still stands. leo definitely wasnt a nobody when fnatic picked him up. also if you knew guild was insane why are you trying to argue fnatic wasnt a superteam in EMEA from day 1? only shao could compete with leo in EMEA for best initiator, and even then shao started flexing onto controllers as well.

#36

jawn

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we all knew leo before fnatic picked him up which is why i said best in slot, but claiming he was better than shao,sacy and crashies is hilarious to me

#37

unknown_trash

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no he was definitely better. ive been watching all of these players since 2022 and leo is definitely best in EMEA, very close between crashies and sacy and leo but leo was a contender for best initiator itw in 2022. also he was lockin mvp so the fact that you argue he wasnt the best itw after all of that is stupid and insane.

#40

jawn

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that's hindsight lol, you can't say leo was the best initiator in the world in 2022 just because he became that in 2023, that's like saying yay was the best in the world back when sen won iceland, also don't kid yourself shao absolutely was 2 tiers above leo

#45

unknown_trash

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no he was not. also why does it matter what people think before when the players prove themselves at tournaments? ok, lets assume that leo wasnt the most highly rated initiator going into 2023. his lockin performance was enough to say that yeah, he is the best initiator in the world. why does it matter that shao was more highly rated when leo was better and is better? fnatic is still a superteam, and leo is now definitely still the best. the whole point of the thread is arguing that fnatic wasnt a superteam. they definitely were and leo was a huge part of that.

#47

jawn

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yes but leo didn't come into fnatic as the best initator in the world but as the best emea prospect, let's not re-write history