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valorant pros spoiled

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#1
Shawn23

You litearlly get to sit on your ass for months during the off season while you sit in a gaming chair for 5-8 hours a day collecting a bag to play a video game when theres people that work year around 12 hour shifts....

source : https://twitter.com/chronicleEZ/status/1694386316404797498?s=20

SPOILED.

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AstroGalaxy
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diff for him bc hes going to all of the events

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Shawn23
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and ? thats more money for him to win and more places to travel ? whats the issue????

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AstroGalaxy
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they get little breaks, and people are gonna anti strat them like crazy

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SEN_brasileiros
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not everyone has stress tolerance, especially this generation lol

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Shawn23
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bruh im only 21 if i could get paid 3-10k a month to grind my ass off on a video game I would 100% do it

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SEN_brasileiros
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yeah but many pro players are famous streamer, they do not feel worth to "suffer" that much mental just for some bag, any streamer with 2k+ views probably makes same amount what they do as professionally (if they're a mid pro player) your brain will try just sabotage you.

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Shawn23
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then they can go stream and quit being a pro. Like Laura Ingraham Told lebron " Shut up and Dribble

Yo @chronicleEZ shut up and shoot your gun

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SEN_brasileiros
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Why would they quit if they can earn both? lol
That's how world works buddy, also Tier 1 org prefer a mid famous player over talent cuz $$ for marketing

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Shawn23
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then they can go stream and quit being a pro. Like Laura Ingraham Told lebron " Shut up and Dribble

Yo @chronicleEZ shut up and shoot your gun

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LyCan52
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bro just wait don't spam post button πŸ’€

#48
koromast
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you can literally do it bro get good or you cant? guess so

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cholikarr
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how come these braindead people dont understand that even 10 hours a day playing valorant isnt working very hard compared to avg person
And they get huge breaks as half of the time matches dont even happen ........

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mattgg2015
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Facts, valorant schedule is so much softer than CSGO but this is what happens when u have an esports scene full of soys! Sad!

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zidmz
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i have to play video game every day for 7 months 😭😭😭😭 my life is horrible 😭😭😭😭 give us rest 😭😭😭😭 from august-january i dont do anything but thats not enough for me 😭😭😭😭

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jkjkjk
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Have you ever heard of burnout? It's applicable to any type of job that requires excessive condensation of efforts, mentally speaking, over a period of time. No way you can be this stupid to not understand his point

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Shawn23
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Athlete work year around, Workers for business work year around, theres people that work in oil rigs that work all day and put 10x effort that a gamer does bro. Playing for 7 months a day 1 day break a week YOU WILL BE FINE.

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jkjkjk
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Athlete work year around

And there's been complaints about burnout and injury proneness from both athletes and coaches, where the respective schedule is crunched (See football/soccer, this is a widely discussed issue for the last few years). Also, your usual athlete is paid way more than your regular esport player, in order to "pay off" that loss of time and burnout.

Workers for business work year around

Complains about burnout and need for more time off exist in this as well, with some regions (parts of Europe) addressing this by offering more PTO and family time.

theres people that work in oil rigs that work all day and put 10x effort that a gamer does bro

These people are also the ones that have the most time off between jobs, working a few months a the time then having time off, to avoid that burnout (even though it is still prevalent). Oil rig workers usually complain about not having enough time to spend with family, but they're offset by the pay. Also, oil rig jobs pay way more than your regular esports salary.

You're only doubling down with stupid takes that underline and prove my point.

Anything else?

#22
Convoy
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idk wtf is his problem and why what right he has to criticize them ? wait until you face someone's situation then you understand what real problem is tbh

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Shawn23
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youre just being soft about the burnt out shit, its the same thing for every game bro, you play from december - august/sept and get a few months of a break ( League, Cod, Val etc ) whats the one game complaing ? Valorant Lmfao even cs puts more of a grind then valorant pros and they dont say shit. quit being soft with this mental shit when they put 0 physical traits into there job LITEARLLY 0. a average job requires more mental and physical activitys then a Pro gamer.

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jkjkjk
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nah, the only one being soft here is you, since the truth hurts your little feelings.

Most eSports have more breaks in between competitions, on top of the fact that not all competitions are mandatory to attend to (hence giving teams the latitude to skip some), while still gaining enough circuit points to attend their respective majors. Even League, the most similar eSports schedule to Valorant, has bigger breaks between splits. That's why League of Legends schedule goes through virtually the full 12 months of the year, there isn't a 4 month off slapped at the end of the season.

At this point I'm not sure if you're doubling down to prove that you got some stupid macho bravado (which clearly you don't since simple facts hurt your feelings), or if you're this much of an idiot to not even be able to tell the truth from simple data sets.

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10Γ— effort that a gamer does

I've worked a couple jobs and they were all so much easier lmao. As a professional gamer you have to focused during pretty much 100% of tour work hours. As an office worker you need maybe 1 hour of intense focus a day, max. Most is just autopiloting simple tasks. Same for physically demanding jobs, you get used to it pretty quickly and then it's just autopilot.

Obviously gaming casually in your free time is fun and easy but you're not doing it for the entire day, six days a week, with the expectation that if you don't perform, tou get fired.

Always easy to sit back on your ass and tell other people they're soft when you couldn't do half the shit they do.

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jibbajabba
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they act like it's not a job LMAO they're still getting 5 months vacations the privilege is crazy

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loloscum
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not to mention when they lose and get eliminated from tourneys, they go to home and just chill till scrims start again. Sentinels for example was eliminated about 2-3 months ago and only recently has been scrimming, imagine 3 months without doing anything but still getting 20k+ a month.. Val players need a wake up call becaue holy shit

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1phnxe
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stop whining and do your job, my parents work their ass off and someday I will have to work hard as well. I can’t believe this player is whining about not having enough time off lmao.

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Shawn23
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facts dude is a random

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Hyopic
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he has the most masters wins out of every player in the world?????

#18
Asuna_Yuuki
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True

Its insane how spoiled some of these pros are honestly

Most of them wouldn’t survive a real job

So many people work year round and only get like 4 weeks off

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s0ber
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Go win something if it is that easy then

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mistyjdr
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I can't understand the "pros can't survive a real job" take. Like these mf are playing valorant consistently over 8 hrs a day, which is longer than the average job (Around 7 hrs). It may not be as physically demanding as some jobs but when you think about the effort, the grind to be the most decorated valorant player, climbing the ranks, aim training ect - most pros have been playing fps since childhood. It's a long time.

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Shawn23
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nation's average of hours worked per day is a solid 8.5 hours . a google searched wouldve shown that, but even still Being a pro gamer is a blessing. You Choose YOUR hours, You choose how much of a grind you put in, If fnatic dont want to be the best then dont put the grind in.

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Breloof
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you choose YOUR hours

That's just.... straight up a lie? You can choose hours to individually grind on top of your mandated work hours, but most of the time invested is as a team and that's very rigidly dictated by the org.

you choose how much of a grind you put in

That is, on top of the mandated grind that you don't have a say in. All the grinding you do unpaid in your free time, and it's still required because if you don't grind enough you get fired.

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Shawn23
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A lie ? a team picks the best hours that works for them, weather is 1 pm - 9pm, 5 pm to 1 am, They choose whats the best,

bro Most of these players are making bank for the 8 months a year they work, not including tournament hours, stream revenue, partnerships or anything, the amount of money they make is enough for a grind for 8 out of the 12 months a year bro.

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nyxie1337
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That's like saying if you don't wanna be promoted at work, don't put the grind in and stay at your old salary

#70
pullupthen
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you have to be redacted aint no way you are a sane normal human being

#74
nyxie1337
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rent free?

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h786
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no way we're defending valorant pros about who has the harder job right? i mean i know they get paid loads, i dont complain, i know its the entertainment industry, but im not here defending like they actually play a vital role in our lives right? theres hard workers out there who work tirelessly and every drop of sweat is worth the effort, they dont get paid enough, it is what it is, but there is no way anyone can defend these people like some are in this thread. work a real job, then you can compare, its not a comparison worthy of being talked about.

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Breloof
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Nobody is saying they should be paid more or whatever, it's just about the work hours. Competitive gaming isn't just "playing fun little videogames all day", it's hard work. I've worked physically demanding jobs and it was the easiest shit in my life. After a few weeks at most you're fully in shape, and then it's just autopiloting. After getting home I could just chill and my brain was still functioning. On the other hand when I worked more mentally demanding jobs, after work I was dead, I couldn't do anything. Barely managed to make dinner for myself most days. And that's without the pressure of having zero job security and basically needing to grind in your free time just to be able to keep your job.

Are Valorant pros overpaid? 100%. But that doesn't mean that it's an easy job. Chronicle's point is literally just "loosening the schedule a bit would be better for players' mental health" how the fuck is that controversial??

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pullupthen
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stfu you spoiled brat

#72
Breloof
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How tf am I spoiled I'm poor as shit 😭

#58
Breloof
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It is 100% more mentally demanding than most conventional jobs. I mean name one job that requires you to be fully mentally focused for several hours a day. Surgeon is the only example I can think of. Most physically demanding jobs or office jobs are pretty easy in that regard.

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pullupthen
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how out of touch are you

#73
Breloof
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name one job that requires you to be fully mentally focused for several hours a day

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cocoluna
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T2 Csgo players having to grind the whole year online and getting paid Pennies πŸ’€

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Shawn23
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ong

#51
Prontera
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Nah. Tier 2 csgo players can easily make more money than any valorant pro players. There are so many shady online tournaments that they can join, and easily matchfix on every single those matches. lol

#25
yoboikingkong
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use that nismo mf tweet. istg he complains every time

#28
Glaciate05
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It's a sport and this resembles what an actual season would look like but with a longer break.
No time for roster swaps is also good hopefully that doesn't happenas much mid-season next year like this year.

#30
Halleluhwah
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almost took the bait but then i saw u quoting laura ingraham l0l

#31
Shawn23
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🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣

#32
h786
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who is that.

#33
Halleluhwah
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you don't want to know trust me

#34
michaelisupset
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I wonder what would happen if he had to work an actual job

#37
Simp4S0m
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He’s not wrong though. If Sen qualified every event this year, you’d be on his side 🀣

#39
rumbledink
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They take off one day a week and barely get a break between tournaments. I bet you're sitting at your job (if you even have one) scrolling vlr all day

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Shawn23
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i remote job but sure

#52
starxito_sike
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bro chronicle would have been a professional swimmer if he wasn't a pro player, just please stfu

#40
EntryKJ
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I think he wants the events to be spread out. Right now, it's 7 months continuous, followed by 5 months break. He wants the breaks to be in between because it simply makes sense. Obviously, he's getting paid to play a video game like you said, but that doesn't mean that he can't point out when something dumb is being decided. It's not about being spoiled. He is not asking for more time off. He is asking for the existing time off to be more sensible. He is criticizing Riot's decision to put all the events back to back followed by a huge break. the VCT 2024 season looks fine to me though. It's at least better than this year's. We won't have anything going on after Champions 2023 till next year, right?

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Finlad
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Flair

#42
1kirua
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realistically mate if the job of being a professional valorant player is so easy then there would be so many people trying to jump for that job, but considering the fact that only 0.000001% of the playerbase is professional, you dont really have a right to speak on how difficult their job is if you could never actually do it yourself

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Shawn23
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? i understand getting the job is quite difficult, but the job is easier compared to your average/everyday job.

#46
Simp4S0m
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And how do you know that? They practice everyday bro they just don't play when there's tournaments going on. Include also the traveling. You don't know how exhausting it is. Sure it's not warehouse job or construction job but it's still not as easy as you think. All they're asking for is to make the schedule better. Even I as a viewer it's exhausting to keep up since everything is happening so fast. I think most viewers will also prefer a longer break each tournament instead of rushing it and 5 months off season

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Shawn23
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Like I said above, Games have always been this way, ( COD, CS , Val ) you play Dec/Jan-Sept/aug and get a big break, its a reasonm half these pros are getting paid 5-10k a month to play a game... they arent doing anyhthing physical..... its a video game.... you have to grind to be the best.

#49
Simp4S0m
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Just say you are jealous of their life bro lol just because it's always been that way doesn't mean their complains are invalid. You're acting like they don't deserve to complain about their own experience.

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1kirua
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have you experienced being a professional esports player?
having the pressure of millions of eyes watching you onstage while your entire career hinges on your ability to stay consistent and keep up at a game, with your whole job stability being able to change in an instant after a single season,
a singular bad performance or misplay can cause toxicity towards you online and be at scrutiny until you have another decent performance?

id make the argument that having an average stable job is more forgiving and easier than a job as a professional player

people arent crushed by the physical aspect of a job, they are crushed by the mental aspect of a job, whether its working at a construction site, in an office or as a pro player

at the end of the day they arent working to play games, its an entertainment business and they are paid to do everything possible to be the best

#45
CoCloudy
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bro is jealous πŸ’€

#67
pullupthen
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bro is glazing "pro" gamers lmao

#50
Emmy_TOF
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WWWW
LEO header esport is fraud for sure

#54
sylv1o
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I used to think Russians were like tough asf

#56
The_Cleg
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You literally missed the point. Is it wrong for a professional competitor to want a way to be able to perform at his best at every tournament he plays?

Yes, he has an easy job that many people would want, but this does not mean he can't be affected of stress and tiredness... I think it's only normal that a competitor would want to be able to perform at his best...

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Emmy_TOF
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NA missed only one
brain ded

#64
The_Cleg
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Who said anything about NA?

#60
general_gawk47
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Think people are thinking wrong on this one. Yes plenty of people work year round with only a short amount of vacation time however, they aren't in the high stress environment chronicle is in. And saying he's spoiled when there are people who work 12 hour shifts with little to no vacation is a dumb outlook, its like telling a depressed American to be happy because at least they aren't a starving child in Africa.

Its much different and comparing two completely different environments and work spaces to each other to prove ur point just makes u look stupid.

#62
Emmy_TOF
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he want to summon chronicle like babysuzuke did

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pullupthen
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makes the "pro" player stupid too

#71
AllMight
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These NA mfs don't have brains smh

#75
Breloof
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Why is everyone arguing about wages or comparing esports to physically demanding jobs? Chronicle is just asking for the schedule to be loosened a bit, how is this so controversial?

1) Obviously esports players get paid a lot of money and you could definitely argue that it's unfair or whatever. That's besides the point though.

2) Comparisons to physically demanding jobs are bit difficult, because physically demanding jobs and mentally demanding jobs affect people in very different ways. That being said, esports is generally horrible for long term physical health, notable eyes, neck, back and wrist are affected. While physically demanding jobs undoubtedly are more straining, well, physically, they can be a lot easier to recover from, because you actually still find mental energy to do things in your free time.

3) In terms of mental health, there's an elevated risk of burnout, depression, anxiety and more, and these schedules are contributing to that. Compared to office jobs which include somewhat comparable amounts of sitting in front of a computer, esports requires a lot more mental focus over longer periods of the day. During pracs, you have to constantly maintain a low reaction time, process information quickly, and react to information quickly. In most office jobs cognitive processes are much slower, making it a lot less tense and mentally straining

4) This whole, "they're getting paid so much, their jobs SHOULD make them suicidal" thing is so weird. Loosening the schedule a bit and distributing the same amount of games over a slightly longer period of time to give players breaks means they do the same amount of work, but their mental health suffers less. Why is that not something we agree on?

5) People in this thread are talking a lot about the length of the breaks. The thing is, breaks that are too long are actually super counterproductive. Short, regular breaks are a lot more effective at alleviating the effects of stress on the psyche. There's a reason why at the gym, you do short breaks between sets rather than doing everything at once and then taking a long break. On a bigger scale this still holds true, and literally just a one or two week longer break after Masters could already be effective.

Pretty much all the science (granted, esports is young and science is slow, so there isn't a plethora of research, but the little that exists) agrees with Chronicle. See for example https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.00138/full for a review.

#76
pullupthen
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braindead take

#77
Breloof
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Sanest vlr user

#78
eggsalt
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Idk why ppl make pro gaming out to be some lavish easy lifestyle. It seems absolutely miserable

#80
babysasuke
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Damn I forgot to put a muzzle on my dog again, my bad guys

#82
Mortadelo
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Tbh having a month in between splits and making the season end a month later is a W for everyone

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