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can you build a better team than Fnatic?

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#1
calabasa

they're all best in their role itw pretty much, the only upgrade I can think of is Nats/Suygetsu over Alfajer, and FNS over Boaster but thats like a 3% improvement.
in terms of roster, only Navi, Loud, DRX and old Optic come close but head to head Fnatic diffs them

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Diebs
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Old optic or loud clears them

#3
Abydaby
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Diebs [#2]

Old optic or loud clears them

old loud you mean or current

#4
Diebs
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Abydaby [#3]

old loud you mean or current

Yeah old loud and old optic

#5
RockawayKidz
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Diebs [#2]

Old optic or loud clears them

comes close

#6
widepeepofrosty
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nats '21
chronicle '21
mako '22
fns '22
yay '22

chet '22

#7
DrudaL
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Nah, this fnc alr perfect u don't need any changes

#8
Asuna_Yuuki
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Less over Alfajer
FNS over chronicle
Mako over Boaster

#9
patuj
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I think you could only upgrade like Alfajer if you put in Less or maybe Suygetsu

#10
Gutssz
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yay
Less
Shao
MaKo
ANGE1

#11
ValdemieGC
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in EMEA (no FNATIC)

Sayf (duelist)
Cloud (initiator)
Shao (smokes)
Sheydos (sentinel)
Zyppan (flex)

#12
Abydaby
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ValdemieGC [#11]

in EMEA (no FNATIC)

Sayf (duelist)
Cloud (initiator)
Shao (smokes)
Sheydos (sentinel)
Zyppan (flex)

derke diffs sayf
cloud and leo are close but leo>
shao is the better smoke yes
sheydos may be better than alfa but from yesterdays game going with alfa
chronicle diffs zyppan

also whos gonna igl

#13
Gqviria
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ValdemieGC [#11]

in EMEA (no FNATIC)

Sayf (duelist)
Cloud (initiator)
Shao (smokes)
Sheydos (sentinel)
Zyppan (flex)

You forgot igl my boy

#14
ValdemieGC
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Abydaby [#12]

derke diffs sayf
cloud and leo are close but leo>
shao is the better smoke yes
sheydos may be better than alfa but from yesterdays game going with alfa
chronicle diffs zyppan

also whos gonna igl

this is not a comparison, it's a team to compete against current fnatic

#15
Abydaby
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ValdemieGC [#14]

this is not a comparison, it's a team to compete against current fnatic

oh then yeah this team is the best contender mb

#16
MourninggStarr
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hmm, the only thing that would make fnatic better is an IGL who is not only good at calling, but can also keep up with the rest of the team at fragging. However, no such player exists right now and boaster is the best piece for fnatic

#17
zidmz
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-derke +cryo
-leo +derrek
-boaster +stellar
-chronicle +asuna
-alfajer +bang

#18
LoneWelf
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FNS
Marved
Aspaz
Xeppa
Yay

#19
BrotherMan
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LoneWelf [#18]

FNS
Marved
Aspaz
Xeppa
Yay

tf is xeppa doing lmaooo.. put crashies who is literally better

#20
zidmz
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LoneWelf [#18]

FNS
Marved
Aspaz
Xeppa
Yay

xeppa isn't even the best initiator on his team 💀

#21
melodymur
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clone FNS five times

#22
alitmanus
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OMG all this hype bcuz they won Loud on overtime icebox when they were literally testing comps and aspas underperforming

holy hell
Loud would destroy this overrated team any day

#23
eeeeeeeee
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You can upgrade over alfajer and boaster

Derke, leo and chronicle arent upgradeable, only lateral moves

#24
yaiima0
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alitmanus [#22]

OMG all this hype bcuz they won Loud on overtime icebox when they were literally testing comps and aspas underperforming

holy hell
Loud would destroy this overrated team any day

💀

#25
manwhat
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saying theyre all the best itw in their roles isnt that easy to say the only people who i would say is its undisputed theyre the best in their roles rn from fnc are derke and leo.. and no hate to derke but its kinda by default because yay literally got fucked over by c9 the rest have players who could compete with them for that title

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Flamingarrow17
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zidmz [#17]

-derke +cryo
-leo +derrek
-boaster +stellar
-chronicle +asuna
-alfajer +bang

Bro is still salty about lock in ….

#27
Supervegito007
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Current Loud with pancada ( kick tuyZ )

#28
MikeySan0
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Current GE? Wake up

#29
Katharize
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zidmz [#17]

-derke +cryo
-leo +derrek
-boaster +stellar
-chronicle +asuna
-alfajer +bang

Owned by tonz kek

#30
LifeIsALie
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widepeepofrosty [#6]

nats '21
chronicle '21
mako '22
fns '22
yay '22

chet '22

saadhak over fns, sgares over chet all day anyday

#31
bloxburgpro123
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scream
nivera
newzera
xms
shin

#32
ZeRUSia
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FNS (IGL + Sentinel)
Yay(Main Dualist jett, etc)
MaKo(Smoke)
Jingg(Second Dualist)
Shao (Initiator)

This claps fnatic 2023

#33
Flamingarrow17
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eeeeeeeee [#23]

You can upgrade over alfajer and boaster

Derke, leo and chronicle arent upgradeable, only lateral moves

Absolutely criminal under rating of alfajer he is def one of the best sentinels and can also play duelist if you need him. He’s also only 17 so I’m sure he will only get better. With Boaster I suppose FNS is arguably better and can also speak English but it’s kind of nit picking.

#34
Domination
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Anyone who try to change Fnatic is braindead 🗿

#35
Mathias8008
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MourninggStarr [#16]

hmm, the only thing that would make fnatic better is an IGL who is not only good at calling, but can also keep up with the rest of the team at fragging. However, no such player exists right now and boaster is the best piece for fnatic

KiNgg exists

#36
dapada
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Diebs [#2]

Old optic or loud clears them

delusional

#37
dapada
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alitmanus [#22]

OMG all this hype bcuz they won Loud on overtime icebox when they were literally testing comps and aspas underperforming

holy hell
Loud would destroy this overrated team any day

still crying over that comeback on icebox? lulz
fnatic 3-0 loud without crowd cheating kkk

#38
alitmanus
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dapada [#37]

still crying over that comeback on icebox? lulz
fnatic 3-0 loud without crowd cheating kkk

5 best players from 5 different countries and need a fluke to win 😂

#39
Cresp
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not separating regions cuz i think language barrier and team culture explode unless really good aparent chemistry

NA
FNS
Zekken
Crashies
Marved?
Victor/Cryo/bang

Idk someone who is good at pure duelist so i listed some flexible players like bang and victor but also cryo if u trust him being good at other roles and keep getting better.

Brazil
Less
Khalil/pancada
Sadhaak (exception because always been in BR)
Aspas
Mwzera

Emea
Chronicle
Boaster
Derke
Shao
Suy/nAts

Doesnt get much better than fnatic this is barely arguably better

APAC
Drx and vs
Mako
K1ng
Stax
Foxy9
Rb

#40
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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MourninggStarr [#16]

hmm, the only thing that would make fnatic better is an IGL who is not only good at calling, but can also keep up with the rest of the team at fragging. However, no such player exists right now and boaster is the best piece for fnatic

scream exists 💀💀💀 jk

#41
Schneefeuer1
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Gqviria [#13]

You forgot igl my boy

Shao has IGLd FPX when Ange1 couldnt play and it worked pretty well

#42
61Hiko
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Asuna_Yuuki [#8]

Less over Alfajer
FNS over chronicle
Mako over Boaster

and derke is flex or what

#43
eeeeeeeee
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Flamingarrow17 [#33]

Absolutely criminal under rating of alfajer he is def one of the best sentinels and can also play duelist if you need him. He’s also only 17 so I’m sure he will only get better. With Boaster I suppose FNS is arguably better and can also speak English but it’s kind of nit picking.

Less, nats are better and potentially k1ng, elite, vo0kashu aswell

if alfajer keeps improving he will probably be better than k1ng and nats but we aint talking about future

#44
ValdemieGC
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Schneefeuer1 [#41]

Shao has IGLd FPX when Ange1 couldnt play and it worked pretty well

correct, glad someone remembers

#45
GiancioZ
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Asuna_Yuuki [#8]

Less over Alfajer
FNS over chronicle
Mako over Boaster

and who IGLs lil bro

#46
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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please stop saying nats anymore either you don't watch the games or nats pays you to say his name

#47
Qwertyy
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leaf
Zellsis
Xeppaa
runi
jakee

#48
LouBag
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alitmanus [#22]

OMG all this hype bcuz they won Loud on overtime icebox when they were literally testing comps and aspas underperforming

holy hell
Loud would destroy this overrated team any day

Didn’t loud just lose a map to Runi and jakee?

#49
DELUSIONAL_SCOURGE_FAN
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GiancioZ [#45]

and who IGLs lil bro

since when is FNS not an igl?

#50
mon471
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Bro forgot RRQ was already built

#51
yoboikingkong
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widepeepofrosty [#6]

nats '21
chronicle '21
mako '22
fns '22
yay '22

chet '22

brother wants to time travel or some shit to make this team possible?

#52
amyayayy
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a team with no fnatic players
saadhak(igl flex)
shao(as initiator)
pancada(sentinel)
mako(smokes)
yay(duelist awp)
doombros coach

i would prefer ange1 igling over saadhak but roles would clash

#53
yoboikingkong
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MourninggStarr [#16]

hmm, the only thing that would make fnatic better is an IGL who is not only good at calling, but can also keep up with the rest of the team at fragging. However, no such player exists right now and boaster is the best piece for fnatic

and boaster is pretty often not at the bottom of even this fnatic team. so i dont think you can get anyone better

#54
yoboikingkong
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Flamingarrow17 [#33]

Absolutely criminal under rating of alfajer he is def one of the best sentinels and can also play duelist if you need him. He’s also only 17 so I’m sure he will only get better. With Boaster I suppose FNS is arguably better and can also speak English but it’s kind of nit picking.

fns is the worst fragger in partnership. and the way boaster is igling right now, i will not ever replace him for fns. his mid rounding is so so good

#55
yoboikingkong
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ZeRUSia [#32]

FNS (IGL + Sentinel)
Yay(Main Dualist jett, etc)
MaKo(Smoke)
Jingg(Second Dualist)
Shao (Initiator)

This claps fnatic 2023

wdym jett etc. ? jett is the only duelist he can play

#56
widepeepofrosty
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yoboikingkong [#51]

brother wants to time travel or some shit to make this team possible?

valorant all-star team

#57
kanyefan4238173
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sacy and pancada if they never left loud would be better. They would be the first valorant dynasty

#58
Gqviria
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Schneefeuer1 [#41]

Shao has IGLd FPX when Ange1 couldnt play and it worked pretty well

IGL'ed 3 games =/= IGL

Shao has a inmense a firepower and IGL might hurt him, so it's not the best choice to IGL

#59
LifeIsALie
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Chronicle
Leo
Shao
Saadhak
MaKo
this diffs everything on the planet, they dont need a duelist, they take skye breach gekko astra raze , just stun blind suck hs everyone

#60
PoonRaccoon
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LoneWelf [#18]

FNS
Marved
Aspaz
Xeppa
Yay

-xeppa

+zyppan

#61
cocoluna
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DELUSIONAL_SCOURGE_FAN [#49]

since when is FNS not an igl?

no like boaster or FNS

#62
Al-Mawsil
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cocoluna [#61]

no like boaster or FNS

Mako is picked over boaster so FNS has to igl

#63
ValdemieGC
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Gqviria [#58]

IGL'ed 3 games =/= IGL

Shao has a inmense a firepower and IGL might hurt him, so it's not the best choice to IGL

if you really want a proven IGL, swap zyppan for Ange1, put Ange1 on smokes and move Shao or Cloud to flex role

you can also swap suygetsu/nats for sheydos depending on your preferences

#64
cocoluna
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Al-Mawsil [#62]

Mako is picked over boaster so FNS has to igl

I can't read oops

#65
AllMight
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Diebs [#4]

Yeah old loud and old optic

Old optic? The one who lost to guild?

#66
saka
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AllMight [#65]

Old optic? The one who lost to guild?

let him cope

#67
Pengu12
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LifeIsALie [#30]

saadhak over fns, sgares over chet all day anyday

FNS is just as good as Saadhak tho, it’s all about preference

#68
dapada
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alitmanus [#38]

5 best players from 5 different countries and need a fluke to win 😂

5 best players from 5 different countries against thousands of crowd cheating KKK cry is free

#69
alitmanus
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dapada [#68]

5 best players from 5 different countries against thousands of crowd cheating KKK cry is free

retarded 😂

#70
Kezyyz
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LifeIsALie [#30]

saadhak over fns, sgares over chet all day anyday

Def not sgares over chet

#71
dapada
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alitmanus [#69]

retarded 😂

😭

https://youtu.be/uyNCr-uvu1o?t=27535

#72
ZeRUSia
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LifeIsALie [#59]

Chronicle
Leo
Shao
Saadhak
MaKo
this diffs everything on the planet, they dont need a duelist, they take skye breach gekko astra raze , just stun blind suck hs everyone

facts

#73
Vianx11
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2021 gambit

#74
Wronghand
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Just give Foxy9 five separate PC set-ups and he could beat Fnatic.

#75
Zorontom
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Alfa is getting so underrated, he pulls of clutches many times when he shouldn't plus fnatic could even go for double op strats

#76
Pengu12
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LouBag [#48]

Didn’t loud just lose a map to Runi and jakee?

Antistrats were insanee + runi and Jakeee own most NA teams

#77
Pengu12
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eeeeeeeee [#43]

Less, nats are better and potentially k1ng, elite, vo0kashu aswell

if alfajer keeps improving he will probably be better than k1ng and nats but we aint talking about future

Why tf r u rating Nats so high, I get he had a great game at lock//in but has been insanely mid since then

Suygetsu, less and Alfa hard clear Nats rn unless Nats gets back in form he ain’t up their on the list of sentinels

#78
vetements
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TenZ
zombs
ShahZam
dapr
SicK

#79
Jaox-101
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APAC
Flipzjder
xxffero
Monyet
F0rsaken
Kush

#80
Tashfeen
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AllMight [#65]

Old optic? The one who lost to guild?

tbf old optic always performed when it actually mattered and usually needed a warmup game

#81
GiancioZ
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DELUSIONAL_SCOURGE_FAN [#49]

since when is FNS not an igl?

oh shit sorry i didnt see it

#82
eeeeeeeee
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Pengu12 [#77]

Why tf r u rating Nats so high, I get he had a great game at lock//in but has been insanely mid since then

Suygetsu, less and Alfa hard clear Nats rn unless Nats gets back in form he ain’t up their on the list of sentinels

nats was the best m3c player for later half of 2022. taking some time to adjust to new liquid but hes still been solid putting up respectable performances.

#83
IamVengeance
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AllMight [#65]

Old optic? The one who lost to guild?

fnatic choked in 2022

#84
lorenzopajaroFC
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dapada [#71]

😭

https://youtu.be/uyNCr-uvu1o?t=27535

It’s funny cause the only verifiable “crowd cheating” we had was done by boaster

#85
ardiis_the_goat
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AllMight [#65]

Old optic? The one who lost to guild?

this doesn't makes any sense ☠️

#86
Pengu12
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eeeeeeeee [#82]

nats was the best m3c player for later half of 2022. taking some time to adjust to new liquid but hes still been solid putting up respectable performances.

nAts was amazing on m3c but even sheydos is looking better then him rn, keep in mind chronicle and sheydos would change role so that Nats was comfortable on m3c, Nats was being set up for success a lot

#87
emirerays
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Diebs [#2]

Old optic or loud clears them

optic was good when chamber was the meta

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