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sentinelmain377

2021:
EMEA vs NA 7W:6W
EMEA vs AM 15W:7W
LAN Wins: NA: 1, EMEA: 1, EMEA: 1

2022:
EMEA vs NA 4W:4W
EMEA vs AM 10W:8W
LAN Wins: NA: 1, EMEA: 1, SA: 1
Imagine no NA and SA superteams (optc,loud): that looks scary for americas
At least EMEA had multiple teams with multiple wins.

CIS has not carried EMEA

If we completely remove Gambit from these stats: (btw CIS is EU but just for the copers)
2021:
EMEA vs NA 6W:5W
EMEA vs AM 12W:6W

FPX is not CIS (Zyppan: Sweden | Ardiis: Latvia | Ange1: Ukraine (EU) | D00MBR0S: Sweden meaning 4/6 players are European)

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no way you're still blatherin bout this

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Ullyr

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don't worry EMEA fans are on hard cope atm

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sentinelmain377

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im only blatherin cuz NA fans are blatherin about winning against the worse EMEA teams and acting as if Americas was the best region since the start of 2022 or something.

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bear14

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UR THE BIGGEST BOT ON THIS SITE NPC LOOKIN DUMBASS

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sentinelmain377

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dont worry, NRG alr won the LOUD game

edit: damn, the one time i was hopeful of NA, they disappoint kekw

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aged like milk

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chimpy

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Bro ur tripping balls

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sentinelmain377

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numbers dont lie. plus i saw ppl saying americas was better in 2022
emea has been dominant for 2 years
just wait for fnc tl navi

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Nilonesia

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Americas got two trophies last year so I think that’s pretty respectable. 🤷‍♂️

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sentinelmain377

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Emea had more match wins overall and had more diversity unlike na and sa who just got carried by 2 superteams optc and loud the whole year

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EU had one lan win last year?
And by your logic of winning more matches is important instead of the entire tournament (kinda weird) that makes NA the “best region” currently. Which is false. Many teams like Optic require losses or time to learn in a tournie. This means that some of the EU teams being knocked out rn could be crazy.
EU 100 percent dominated 2021, but to say the Americas didn’t perform better in 2022 is crazy.

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It was literally and OPTIC and LOUD carry for most of AMERICAS
100T only got 1 FNC win, but then just got 2-0'd by FNC.
XSET got a win on FPX and FNC and played a good game, but loss to FPX (only in champions)

Atleast EU had more diversity with FNC wins, FPX wins, GLD upsets, TL wins (with close game to LOUD in reykjavik)

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U legit just mentioned 4 EU teams and 4 America teams yet you say Americas was carried
U cannot count. If Americas was carried so was EU.

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sentinelmain377

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OPTC: 15W:8L
GRD: 0W:2L
XSET: 3W:4L
100T: 1W:2L
69.69% of matches played by OPTC for entirety of NA
6.06% GRD
21.21% XSET
9.09% 100T

FNC: 5W:7L
FPX: 11W:5L
TL: 4W:5L
GLD: 2W:2L
G2: 1W:2L

27.27% matches by FNC
36.36% matches by FPX
20.45% matches by TL
9.09% matches by GLD
6.81% matches by G2

TLDR: EU talent much more spread out while NA carried by OPTC This would be worse if we did a Brazil stat with LOUD

do you see now with all that Math i had to do

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youre just arguing that EU had a whole lot of mid teams last year, while the Americas had 2 good teams. youre kind of arguing against yourself

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FPX seemed like the only good team in 2022 imo. FNATIC didn't look to hot either last year on lans. XSET also defeated two of the most exciting teams at champs, them being FPX and FNATIC. Poor argument you have there.

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Im dumb and didnt read the whole thing just ignore this

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Optic Won Reykjavik (North American team)
FunPlus Phoenix won Copenhagen (at the time had an EMEA roster)
LOUD won Champions (Brazilian Roster/South American)

Americas 2-1 2022 against EMEA in tournament wins
xd

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Nah you really had to combine 2 continents to beat eu once 💀

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ToniMa

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"EU", mf yall get carried by CIS lmao

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Valgod

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Which is europe dumbass

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there's no CIS subregion anymore

you can't said EMEA got carried.

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sentinelmain377

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are u dumb
CIS didnt even compete in 2022. It was only EU
use some logic before u talk dum ass

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shey222

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U dumb ? Shao suygetsu ange1 derke all are from CIS

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babysasuke

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isnt derke finnish?

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Itsover

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Ethnic Russian born in Finland.

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babysasuke

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Damn so EU really carried by CIS 🤔

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yungbasel

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By that logic, NRG is an APAC team because Chet, victor, fns and Som are all of Asian descent.

You retard xD

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Itsover

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USA has no "title ethnicity" so everyone born in the states is American, your logic doesn't apply .Finland has Finns and Samis, Derke is neither Finn not Sami, would you call him Greek if he was born in Greece?

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yungbasel

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I used your own lack of logic against you clown.

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sentinelmain377

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ukraine is eu stupid
indian geography kekw?

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Itsover

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Ange1 is ethnic Russian born in Ukraine

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Valgod

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Im sure he wants nothing to do with russia

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ItsMeDio

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there are no more CIS region

their VRL isn't existed. even if they are from Russian/Ukraine, they're all considered EMEA since VRL CIS was removed.

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Miting

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no leagues except for VCT EMEA where full 5 CIS players can appears in the single team, for now. Even they are "EMEA" players

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brobeans

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it’s 2 countries. Brazil and US

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sentinelmain377

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W
It is only 2 superteams optc and loud. The rest of the region is ass lmfao

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frostyy

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south america and north america are one continent bruh

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sentinelmain377

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Brazil geography KEKW

dumass

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frostyy

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i dont get it
south america and north america are subcontinents
america is one single thing.

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sentinelmain377

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Americas is the league
North America and South America are two continents (not subcontinents)

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frostyy

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no they arent, at least here in brazil and in europe
these types of things change from places to places its a culture thing

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😛

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ItsMeDio

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NA fans boasting their early dominance as usual kekw
in the end, Team Liquid will save EMEA.

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ogking

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when has liquid saved EMEA?

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sentinelmain377

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liquid (the org) hasnt

nAts Redgar and Sayf will

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Brain_Needle482

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assuming they dont lose to navi this tourney

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Lqwnmower

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What is blud wafflin about

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Mjtchell

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EMEA vs NA doesnt matter when Brazil wins

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ax0788

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FNS owns your whole region LMAO

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Mjtchell

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What region would that be lmao

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Miting

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I totally agree with u man, BUT one thing: FPX was CIS whole 2022 and until addition that Ukraine is part of EU Eastern Valiant Subregion.
Otherwise we would see NAVI and KPI on the main event through the CIS qualifiers!
BUT somehow EU team went on the CIS qualifiers HOW? explain me please.
Since that moment until their Masters victory they didn't change any of 5 players!

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Miting

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I wanna see the same 2022 stats where is FPX counted as CIS team. Anyway it doesn't change anything about the Spoiler

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sentinelmain377

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they went to cis quals for better servers cuz ukraine closer to cis servers than some eu servers

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Itsover

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There are no CIS servers.

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sentinelmain377

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not the main point tho. they have eu players that won and an eu coach.
They had ardiis, who was seen as so good that he was imported by NRG

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Itsover

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40% EU=EU, got it.

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sentinelmain377

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nope 50% eu, and then later 66.6% eu
Coach is Swedish

dont be like "Coach don't count"

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Miting

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but coaches never counts when the team choose where to play

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im done. im arguing with a Fokus fan...

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they went there bcuz 3 CIS players and 2 EU players in the team. Now it's 2/3 yes

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lil bro just proving that EU = Easily Upset

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Thank you, your post will be useful for my statistics...

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https://www.vlr.gg/173652/am-vs-eu-eu-still-owns-america-dont-worry

maps info

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Nachtel

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I mean my eurocope statistics

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lmfao

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Pengu12

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Wdym Second best NA team >> Second best EMEA team in champs

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FPX beat XSET (even with the 6th player: XSET Turret)

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Pengu12

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fpx were best team for EMEA tho

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WANT ME TO NUCLEAR YOU?

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"CIS has not carried EMEA"

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Just because our best players are CIS doesn't mean we're carried by them!

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Not NA being carried by 2 europeans and 2 Brazilians

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sentinelmain377

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W of the day: Mortadelo

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Mortadelo

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They complain about their lack of spots and then they import in half their teams

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sentinelmain377

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exactly
instead of ardiis, take ur "na wasted talent" instead
instead of sacy and pancada, take ur "na wasted talent" instead

kekw

EMEA won 2021 and 2022

CIS has not carried EMEA

TLDR: EU talent much more spread out while NA carried by OPTC This would be worse if we did a Brazil stat with LOUD