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zekken gatekeeping?

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#2
RickyIndian
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ok

#3
firo
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it’s just his opinion tho, i dont agree but players have different expectations when playing customs, he’s not right or wrong. feels very similar to what happened in the emea hub.

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ezypoe
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bro just got exposed on a mickey mouse tourney start acting tough

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ash_knuckles
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he's literally not wrong tho lol. shit dies in a week if it keeps going as is cause none of the pros want to play with t2 randoms. not really the most empathetic solution, but at the end of the day the best one there is. Only addition is to make it so people who finish top of t2 get to climb to t1.

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Itsover
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Zekken is himself a tier2 random on a global scale tbh.

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asdfgh
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ur not funny

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Itsover
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I'm not trying to be funny, I genuinely think that zekken is tier 2 literally who, top 6 champs is not really relevant(carried by cryo tbh) because we have a champs winner kiles for example(nobody gonna call kiles tier 1).

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asdfgh
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then ur genuinely fucking stupid lmfao,have a good day

#25
Selex
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Sounds like you may seriously have a brain injury.

#26
ItsMeDio
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zekken played good too, but not as good as cryo tho.

#31
Kk0bra1101
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If ur not baiting, pls look at the fking vods plz

#10
C9_YAY_LOVER
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Top 5 at champs is tier 2 apparently 😹 are you mentally ill

#15
Itsover
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Kiles won champs, where is he now?

#23
C9_YAY_LOVER
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How tf is that the same? 😹 Kiles won champs in 2021 and then fell off hard. But right after champs he would still be considered a tier 1 player. With Zekken we are talking about the most recent major tournament.

Also why tf are you talking about on a ‘global scale’ when this is literally only about the NA scene 😹 you are actually so dumb

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ash_knuckles
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thing is, zekken himself doesn't mind, but the rest of the pros have literally started avoiding q's to play with each other. dude's just proposing a solution.

#24
brobeans
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then they should leave and go scrim instead of abusing tarik's pro city thing. if anything kills it, it will be that

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ash_knuckles
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It really just depends on whatever direction tarik wants to take with this. If he wants glorified ranked (which is fine and the original purpose of this in the first place) then he lets all the t1/t2 pros in, but at that point, most people might rather just play ranked instead. Personally i think tiers are a much better approach to this tho, but idk. What i do know is he can't really keep as is, because people who are legitimately qualified are being denied entry.

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iamtheh
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True, tier would be a much better approach imo. Maybe they could have their own ranked system similar to ranked where players who win/contribute more to the team would progress up the different ranks, which would incentivize players to keep playing, and limit the skill level of players once u climb higher to queue. Might be difficult tho as there are only a handful of pro players in the server.

#51
TSM_IS_MY_FLAIR
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fr, and he joined S0ntinels which is a t6 team

#6
BigTiddyMilf
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10K VLR posts? Surely that's a record.

#19
Qwertyy
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Mortadelo is at 11.2K posts

#27
aJAYYY
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11.2k post and ajay still dont know this mortadelo guy

#63
ItsMeDio
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Ajay
Stop using Ajay in every sentence

That would make you 10 Times better user

#67
aJAYYY
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like ajay gave a shit from liquid flair

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asdfgh
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thats good,literally the same reason all the cs pros hate fpl now,too many shitters can qualify it was better when it was pros and good players only

#20
nutab1e
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asdfgh try not to bring up cock and ball strike in a completely unrelated conversation challenge! (impossible)

#43
GravityMalware
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How is not similar. Stop blindly hating on anything Cs

#44
nutab1e
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olofboost alt barking 💀 how far you have fallen

#45
GravityMalware
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First of all check my posts I litterly was arguing with that pos. Also like cs= olofboost? You do realize that game litterly is the foundations of modern valorant. I agree the cs community is dogshit but the game deserves some respect.

#47
nutab1e
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you can't even bring yourself to say anything bad about cs olof ... so obvious

#48
GravityMalware
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I said the community is filled with a bunch of homophobic racists. There is issues with lootboxes/gambling. Is that alright for you? Also why would I argue with "my main"?

#52
nutab1e
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cuz you're unhinged

#65
asdfgh
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AHAHAHAHAHA "cock and ball strike" naaaahhh ur too funny how did you even think about that lmaooo

#66
nutab1e
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calm down lil vrodie 😨

#13
inlucid
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Brazilian FPL started gatekeeping and the FPL died weeks after

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asdfgh
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probably because everyone plays gc there

#17
brobeans
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"top 3 gc teams" 💀

#18
acels2
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TOP 3 GC TEAM OH HELL NAW

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Ullyr
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he's right though. Like if the pro queue become bigger and ppl start not having the criteria, It actually is super counter intuitive to what the pro 10 mans suppose to do . Its gonna start feeling like rank for a lot of ppl cause the skill gap in decision making and aim is there. It will become more apparent when franchising teams/challengers/gc teams actually compete year round in the seasons. Ppl who were in top 32 teams that didn't make challengers or ex pros will be hard to keep up unless they grind the game a lot.

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crashhacker1
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I trust tarik more than zekken on this. The idea to start procity, the invitationals, the lil bro cup were all successes in their own way to make valorant more "fun" but keeping it competitive. zekken doesnt realize what makes a game popular or virality of FPS scene, tarik knows it. I dont care if tarik botfrags every game he plays, the idea itself cleaned up a lot of throwing in NA radiant ranked. it also worked out that crypto throwing is not as feasible since there's no use in throwing pro-players' or content-creators' games anymore so people are playing the game normally.

Watched sinatraa/shanks and some others playing ranked, it was decent enough and no fuckery these past few days. Tarik even outright contradicted zekken's tweet, which is correct. he wants NA as a whole to improve, that's how it improves. Looking at it the other way, you can think of it as these people thinking they're better than ranked "common people" and they are above them so instead of indulging with common people, they make their own society with their own rules. But, at the end of the day, as someone who watches, I dont care about that. I just want to watch a proper valo match instead of too many throwers which has increased the past act.

Some other interesting things I found is that there are players who seem to have bad blood against other pros like subroza who doesnt want to play procity games, since faze shanks is his duo, he also isnt playing it. but he talks about playing in it. quite sad. marved is depressed since optic disbanded and doesnt want to sweat so he's also not playing procity. I can keep going about little stuff like this but you get the idea.

Either way, I think valorant overall is healing since the chamber nerf, the basic changes to abilities defeating other abilities but not ults and need ults to destroy other ults, the ally util not damaging each other, just consistency wise, they're doing a great job, no duelist kayos, no duelist sages etc.

cheers

#74
yungbasel
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Good take my friend

#81
crashhacker1
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thanks, greek fren

#29
Tentativas
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Did this guy really differentiate t2 from gc? jesus everyone so scared to get cancelled

#30
capital_d_colon
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he should really set up another "pro city" maybe "prospects city"
which can allow some of the t3 and below to play 10 mans.
where the best of those players can get promoted, based on wins/mmr/approval
maybe 5 players a week.
best of both worlds really.

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andrewdamf
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Damn zekken really threw some shots at the GC scene lmfao.
But yeah, hes not wrong at all.
Watched some games with florescent in and it was making me lose braincells, she was literally playing like prod and has a big ego with weak mentality.
Tbh the only one GC player that i atleast saw that deserves to play in the "t1 10 mans" would be sarahcat

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Ullyr
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he's right like there's skill issue cause GC scene is also so young so its not really their fault. There's also a lot of young talent in gc but they legit never played an fps or some maybe not even main a video game before valorant. These lobbies actually is pretty helpful for them.

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andrewdamf
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thats not true lol
most GC players before played CS or overwatch, all the best gc teams in the world are CS players
The only ones that never played any other fps is the young ones like florescent, she is like 15-16
But i agree in general

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Ullyr
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of course cs players will do better now cause its still tactical fps. Valorant is doing what no other esports have done and that's getting the women audience into the pro scene. There's more interests for them in valorant both from a casual and professional perspective. I shouldn't say they haven't play or weren't pro in other games but I feel like the women scene for other esports are so barebones its really hard to grind or improve in that type of environment.

#73
ash_knuckles
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sarah the CoD grinder reading this:

#76
brobeans
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Is that not completely hypocritical to his idea of gatekeeping “tier1”

#75
brobeans
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What? The opposite. He is overrating GC teams

#34
acels_THE_CLOWN
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-top 3 gc teams

ACTING LIKE WE WOULDNT NOTICE 💀

TOP 1 GC TEAM BTW

https://www.vlr.gg/66935/g2-gozen-vs-zyzz-vrl-northern-europe-polaris-open-qualifier-ro32

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florescent
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he is right lol

#37
acels_THE_CLOWN
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NAHHHHH

#49
crashhacker1
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if women's teams followed such strict criteria, you wouldn't be able to do what you do. so think a bit before you start gatekeeping. you got in because there was no gatekeeping.

#53
ASTEROIDCHILD
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thank you sherlock for the mindblowing revelation. keep it up with the shocking discoveries cant wait what you come up with next

#56
florescent
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women and marginalized genders and i fit into both categories so i dont see what u mean xd

#38
ASTEROIDCHILD
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people completely outside the realm of ever playing in these inhouses complaining about who should be let in and who shouldn't has gotta be another level of time wasting

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florescent
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ngl i dont even deserve in LMFAO but its insane how gc players that didnt even make main event last year (top 8 teams) are just vibing in the server

#41
andrewdamf
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oh my god ur too based lil bro
do you not fear being canceled?

#54
florescent
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why would i get cancelled for saying that players not even top8 gc dont deserve an inv when the criteria is so strict

#57
Ryuji
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G2 clears top 8 NA gc players 😈

#59
florescent
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but g2 members are invited so i dont see what u mean

#60
Ryuji
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G2 gozen is invited ??????

#61
florescent
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oh sry i thought u meant the na challengers team

#62
Ryuji
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nvm i was just kidding ! Have a nice day

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Aladeeen
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Typical NA, Larik lives in society 😂😂😂

#42
GAGAZ
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atleast he put gc player on the list
he was right

#46
TSM_IS_MY_FLAIR
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zekken thinks he's t1 🤣🤣 🤣🤣

tier 6 max
i cant wait to see how many rounds they'll get against fnatic, oh wait 0 🤣🤣 🤣🤣

#58
Ryuji
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what are you talking abt ? He is a frenchfries player obviously he is tier 1

#50
Ryuji
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these guys smurfs in low elo and when anyone throw there high elo game they cry abt it . when smeone throws there game idk why i get a tinch of happiness inside me

#55
crashhacker1
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these pros and content creators troll in their high elo games too. but you just cant do it against them. they can do it since they have YT and tiktok content to share but you cant troll or they'll send their little dogs to harass you over social media.

#64
ItsMeDio
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This.

#68
sylv1o
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Faceit in shambles

#69
Ross23
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Zekken wants this to be a scrim. But tarik made this hub jst to avoid the throwers and no commers . Separating t1 and t2 players will lead this hub to dead real soon imo. I think tarik should keep it like how it is now. T1/ t2 should all play together like how a ranked match should be not like how a scrim match should be. Cz the pros are already scrimming 6-7hours a day,why would they wanna play like scrim more 6-7 hours

#71
Dybala21
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Still gonna died unless there’s a reward system in the pro hub

#77
brobeans
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Correct take

#70
kudos
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What Tarik did is definitely not a new concept it's almost excatly like back in the day using Ventrilo and mIRC on GameSurge and QuakeNet with the OP's on top making all the channel's decisions and the plebs sitting in #findscrim spamming 5v5 - cal-m/p/invite - west/central/east - de_map

I thought we would have figured this out already lol

#78
Mbappe
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Already people missing out, next up is some dumb drama. And 1 week later no one plays anymore

#79
Gutssz
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bro thinks top 3 NA GC teams are t1 💀💀💀

#80
NG1nS
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am i tripping or did you not have a SEN flair?

#82
Aladeeen
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tier 1 should be:
-franchise/challenger teams
-anyone previously on a top 10 NA team
-top 3 gc teams
tier 2 should be:
-top 32 in open quals/LCQ
-anyone previously on a top 30 NA team
-top 10 gc teams

https://twitter.com/zekkenval/status/1617972359503437825?s=46&t=8tFkPt9vhsDH1Hc4RoB5Mw

Stopped reading at tier 1 and top 3 GC teams 🤓 Zekken is delusional, show this kid how FPL and FPL-c works. Tier1, tier 2 and females must be divided like in cs: fpl, fplc, womens league.

#84
codv
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fpl wasnt just tier 1 and fplc wasnt tier 2 tho

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