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#1
TuNyyy

What's going on with the EMEA franchising teams, apart from FNC TL and NAVI, every other team seems to be mid and won't be able to compete internationally. Is the free agents and talent pool so poor in EMEA? is it the time for eu teams to import talent from NA for example

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"every other team"
idek if fnc, tl, and navi will be good enough to compete internationally from the way it's looking rn

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Perma
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its like americas, C9 NRG SEN are only good ones

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YvngKurry
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Koi looks deadly too wtf. and every other team looks underrated af outside of heretics and the turkish teams

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TuNyyy
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3/10 teams, and these were previously good so.. EMEA is looking boring

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Valgod
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Vitality,koi, giants are all decent mid teams, other regions also have terrible terrible teams Iike global eSports, rrq, mibr, eg

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Karamine Corp looks pretty good as well

Scream
Nivera
XMS
Enzo
idk last one

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TuNyyy
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titanwithpp [#7]

Karamine Corp looks pretty good as well

Scream
Nivera
XMS
Enzo
idk last one

mid

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YvngKurry
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titanwithpp [#7]

Karamine Corp looks pretty good as well

Scream
Nivera
XMS
Enzo
idk last one

unbelievably mid. Nivera + Scream will never win anything without proper structure

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ColdWKey
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Valgod [#6]

Vitality,koi, giants are all decent mid teams, other regions also have terrible terrible teams Iike global eSports, rrq, mibr, eg

yeah exactly here are my top teams from each region

Americas:

  • LOUD
  • C9
  • SEN
  • LEV (maybe...?)

EMEA:

  • NaVi
  • Team Liquid
  • Fnatic
  • Vitality
  • KOI

APAC:

  • DRX
  • PRX
#11
ColdWKey
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YvngKurry [#4]

Koi looks deadly too wtf. and every other team looks underrated af outside of heretics and the turkish teams

Turkish teams are the EG of EMEA; doing nothing

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TuNyyy
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ColdWKey [#10]

yeah exactly here are my top teams from each region

Americas:

  • LOUD
  • C9
  • SEN
  • LEV (maybe...?)

EMEA:

  • NaVi
  • Team Liquid
  • Fnatic
  • Vitality
  • KOI

APAC:

  • DRX
  • PRX

Vitality & Koi, what's their rumored roster?

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YvngKurry
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ColdWKey [#11]

Turkish teams are the EG of EMEA; doing nothing

Yea, and refusing to pick up any semi-good players, lol

Be like GE. Realize that your roster isn't good and start importing, fuck the fans.

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TuNyyy
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ColdWKey [#10]

yeah exactly here are my top teams from each region

Americas:

  • LOUD
  • C9
  • SEN
  • LEV (maybe...?)

EMEA:

  • NaVi
  • Team Liquid
  • Fnatic
  • Vitality
  • KOI

APAC:

  • DRX
  • PRX

also you forgot 100t

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Mortadelo
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TuNyyy [#12]

Vitality & Koi, what's their rumored roster?

Koi is Kolda, Trexx, Wolfen, starxo, Sheydos Barbar coach

Vitality is Bonecold, Cender, Twisten, Molsi, Destrian Salah coach

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Rebellion2408
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titanwithpp [#7]

Karamine Corp looks pretty good as well

Scream
Nivera
XMS
Enzo
idk last one

I'm not gonna lie but on paper this team is meh...unless we see them perform in the matches

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TuNyyy
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Mortadelo [#15]

Koi is Kolda, Trexx, Wolfen, starxo, Sheydos Barbar coach

Vitality is Bonecold, Cender, Twisten, Molsi, Destrian Salah coach

both mid

#18
Moiraine
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Do you guys only care about name value or ?

#19
ColdWKey
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TuNyyy [#12]

Vitality & Koi, what's their rumored roster?

https://twitter.com/flynn_vlr/status/1581469917295316993?s=46&t=4AZ9WpSVtncxB7PEdJStrA

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Wylie
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Perma [#3]

its like americas, C9 NRG SEN are only good ones

100T potential is crazy high

#21
ColdWKey
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TuNyyy [#14]

also you forgot 100t

They're at the bottom of the Americas imo alongside KRU and EG I'd put NRG above them

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Wylie [#20]

100T potential is crazy high

probably, but i am pretty sure we'll see a roster change from them in 6 months(or probably a good 6th).

#23
TuNyyy
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ColdWKey [#21]

They're at the bottom of the Americas imo alongside KRU and EG I'd put NRG above them

expected dumb take from a brit

#24
Okoretro
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moatz [#2]

"every other team"
idek if fnc, tl, and navi will be good enough to compete internationally from the way it's looking rn

farming downfrags

#25
yungbasel
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You guys are going off name value.

No one expected GUILD to perform internationally and they performed well. Beating optic 2-0 and only losing to the 2 finalists.

With that said, you have very little, if any evidence to judge how these teams will perform internationally.

#26
babysasuke
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Youre giving too much credit

Only Navi looks good

Lnatic still has b0tster and TL roster doesnt make sense

#27
WinterZ
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honestly, yall are giga underrating GIA and KOI.

The GIA core of fit1nho and Cloud is sure to rip apart almost anybody they face up against. If hoody and rhyme come back to form and they sign a solid 5th, then I could easily see this roster making LAN.

KOI also looks good, with Sheydos and trexx being some of the most insane players to come out of the CIS region. koldamenta is one of the best IGLs in the world, Wolfen is one of the best, brightest players to come out of the vrls; outfragging established players like baddyG and paTiTek. Starxo hasn't been in the best form as of late but if he gets back into his old form then I'm sure that he will be a great backbone and support for the team. Plus, a little clout from starxo never hurt anybody

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GreyDaze
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Koi is looking awesome wdym. Giants,heretics,vit also look decent. Others not so much

#29
friedtofu
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koi looks good

#30
patuj
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yungbasel [#25]

You guys are going off name value.

No one expected GUILD to perform internationally and they performed well. Beating optic 2-0 and only losing to the 2 finalists.

With that said, you have very little, if any evidence to judge how these teams will perform internationally.

This. Biggest difference between EMEA and Americas is just the name value. I said this before but if you look at NA and EMEA LCQ (that are really equal in level) fucking OGLU placed same in EMEA as C9 in NA. The team whose core is part of this C9 "superteam". But do people talk about OGLU or their players? Like don't get me wrong individually C9 are better, but you get the point. People just look at names and assume their skill based on that. Like some people saying that team like Vitality should import NA players over Molsi and Twisten lol

#31
GreyDaze
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TuNyyy [#23]

expected dumb take from a brit

Ur flag describes u

#32
Geck0
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Koi gonna be good

#33
Traderslife
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titanwithpp [#7]

Karamine Corp looks pretty good as well

Scream
Nivera
XMS
Enzo
idk last one

dark horses

#34
Zaba
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Perma [#3]

its like americas, C9 NRG SEN are only good ones

Lev...

#35
USCK
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YvngKurry [#13]

Yea, and refusing to pick up any semi-good players, lol

Be like GE. Realize that your roster isn't good and start importing, fuck the fans.

Bro BBL is literally replacing their whole team according to leaks 🤦‍♂️

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Daniveus
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titanwithpp [#7]

Karamine Corp looks pretty good as well

Scream
Nivera
XMS
Enzo
idk last one

they don't know how good xms is...

#37
GreyDaze
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USCK [#35]

Bro BBL is literally replacing their whole team according to leaks 🤦‍♂️

But no leaks on who they are gonna take

#38
USCK
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GreyDaze [#37]

But no leaks on who they are gonna take

BBL have officially said they are announcing it in a couple of days

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fe9UEyrXkAMp_qW?format=jpg&name=large

Its because Dr_ALPH4 made a deal with BBL and is not giving any information but according to his old leaks and new leaks they might sign:

Brave,Meddo,Elite and ShadoW and Vlad as a coach

QutionerX is also the only person staying on the team according to other leaks

#39
YvngKurry
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USCK [#38]

BBL have officially said they are announcing it in a couple of days

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fe9UEyrXkAMp_qW?format=jpg&name=large

Its because Dr_ALPH4 made a deal with BBL and is not giving any information but according to his old leaks and new leaks they might sign:

Brave,Meddo,Elite and ShadoW and Vlad as a coach

QutionerX is also the only person staying on the team according to other leaks

Once again a mid team. Just keep Quti and dont be cheap on the other players.

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YvngKurry [#9]

unbelievably mid. Nivera + Scream will never win anything without proper structure

if they somehow got Happy/ex6 as coach and have them mentor the IGL, it could be well structured

#41
mauusalinas
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FNC, NaVi, TL and KOI can easily compete with anyone. Vitality and Heretics could be the surprise underdogs and I can see KC and Giants fighting for a Masters spot although it seems improbable. The only teams that don't seem good enough to me are the Turkish teams

#42
Kiklop
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TuNyyy [#8]

mid

U don't even read the posts right?

#43
Valgod
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patuj [#30]

This. Biggest difference between EMEA and Americas is just the name value. I said this before but if you look at NA and EMEA LCQ (that are really equal in level) fucking OGLU placed same in EMEA as C9 in NA. The team whose core is part of this C9 "superteam". But do people talk about OGLU or their players? Like don't get me wrong individually C9 are better, but you get the point. People just look at names and assume their skill based on that. Like some people saying that team like Vitality should import NA players over Molsi and Twisten lol

Emea lcq is stronger, na lcq winner couldn't even get out of the groups

#44
moatz
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Okoretro [#24]

farming downfrags

from delusional eu frogs

#45
yungbasel
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patuj [#30]

This. Biggest difference between EMEA and Americas is just the name value. I said this before but if you look at NA and EMEA LCQ (that are really equal in level) fucking OGLU placed same in EMEA as C9 in NA. The team whose core is part of this C9 "superteam". But do people talk about OGLU or their players? Like don't get me wrong individually C9 are better, but you get the point. People just look at names and assume their skill based on that. Like some people saying that team like Vitality should import NA players over Molsi and Twisten lol

You're pretty much correct. All name value.

And as @Valgod also said, if the NA and EMEA are similar in level (which they are, as many results proved), and NA 3rd seed got grouped, there really is no basis for people saying EMEA looks weak. It's purely clout based, which is 2 head.

#46
number1_ScreaM_fan
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Mortadelo [#15]

Koi is Kolda, Trexx, Wolfen, starxo, Sheydos Barbar coach

Vitality is Bonecold, Cender, Twisten, Molsi, Destrian Salah coach

Vitality is mid but koi good

#47
Wylie
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Perma [#3]

its like americas, C9 NRG SEN are only good ones

Patient W

#48
team_liquid_fan_v2
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Wylie [#47]

Patient W

W

#49
Perma
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Wylie [#47]

Patient W

good jinx, W , i pre planned this shit

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