1. Chronicle
2. Derke
3. Alfajer
4. Aspas
5. nAts
6. Leo
7. Yay
8. TenZ
9. Less
10. Meteor
11. MaKo
12. Boaster
13. Sacy
14. cNed
15. F0rsaken
16. Saadhak
17. BuZz
18. t3xture
19. Jawgemo
20. Zmjjkk

21-75 (no order in each category):
21-30: Shao, Suygetsu, Demon1, Crashies, FNS, Zekken, d4v41, Jingg, Chichoo, Munchkin
31-40: RieNs, Ange1, Zeek, Ethan, Marved, Boostio, pAncada, Keznit, Stax, mindfreak
41-50: ScreaM, Sayf, Ardiis, Redgar, Victor, Trent, kiNgg, Something, Karon, Smoggy
51-60: Starxo, Jamppi, Sheydos, Zyppan, Wo0t, Kaajak, Leaf, Mazino, sScary
61-70: Keiko, Benjyfishy, SicK, bang, c0m, johnqt, Heat, Zest, Rb, nobody
71-75: Nukkye, s0m, Cryo, Zellsis, Asuna

fix 21-75/remove players/add players

this map is actually good because it is very different from the other maps. Requires taking control of mid, B site is very hard to plant on so you might need a Sage/Gekko for now, and different variations of Sunset/Ascent fights.

its all good

at least they can win regional trophies (AMER Stage 1 2024) unlike one other team:

Ye that clutch was probably the best AWP clutch in Valorant

0/8.
First of all, it isnt about being the best on your team. It is about best in the world (which he was at points in 2021).

second (all times Chron was the best on his team):
Champs 2021: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/449/valorant-champions-2021
EMEA kickoff 2024: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1925/champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff
EMEA stage 2 2024: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2094/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2

NAVI lost to EDG 15-17, 12-14.

NAVI was also insanely close to DRX and LOUD in Champs 2023 (making NAVI look like a top 5-7 team at the event despite falling in groups)

NAVI vs DRX: 13-15, 13-9, 12-14
NAVI vs LOUD: 13-11, 11-13, 11-13

NAVI just choked

DRX:

• 2-1 BBL (7th in EMEA 2023 League)
• 2-1 C9 (4th in AMER 2023 League)
• 2-1 TLN (9th in PAC 2023 League)

NAVI:

• 2-0 LEV (5th-6th in AMER 2023 League)
• 2-0 KRU (10th in AMER 2023 League)
• 2-0 TS (5th-6th in PAC 2023 League)

Avg team DRX beat: 6.66th
Avg team NAVI beat (5.5 for 5th-6th): 7th

there is minimal difference and NAVI went 6-0 (+39 rounds) while DRX went 6-3 (+28 rounds).

u might be ragebaiting or are extremely biased idk

he wasnt cleared lmfao. nAts (who was literally the best player of 2021), just had a very slightly better performance than Chronicle in 2021.

You can say this shit for Aspas as well. He was never the best player in the world at one moment.

Just understand your biased lol.

NAVI shit on all 3 of them though didnt they (none of the games were close lmao)

Bro yall are so biased its insane
and against FNATIC (the winners), they had 2 11-13 maps

NAVI > DRX at LOCK//IN (but that doesnt matter for this)

Champs 2023 was the one free group they got.

Keep talking about that era being a dino era when nAts and Chronicle are still farming today. And on support roles. Like how do you already forgot his insane Toronto performance.

You gotta understand you are just biased. His results and stats are insane for a guy playing spike planter (Sage) and support initiators + Viper.

Yay cleared him at Berlin

He didnt.

Yay (duelist btw) obviously has slightly higher stats overall while playing in the easiest group of all time.

Chronicle was the best in the world during Champs 2021 (just didnt win). And according to liquipedia, he was the best in the world during Berlin.

A guy that has attended 36% of finals is definitely an X factor. Idk what ur on about.

they r usually always 1st or 2nd seed from EMEA yet still get bad groups/match ups.
Champs 2021: FNC C9 VS(DRX) FS (group of death at Champs 2021)
Champs 2022: DRX FNC 100T FUR (group of death at Champs 2022)
Shanghai 2024: get 4th pick and have to go against GEN.G (eventual winners)
Toronto 2025: get 4th pick in playoffs and have to go against GEN.G (scariest team from groups & favorites)
EWC: FNATIC GEN.G EDG 100T bruh

wouldnt be surprised if Fnatic dont make it out of groups

meanwhile SEN gets the easiest group as a 2nd seed

#9

why tf is being "humble" deciding the difference between Alfajer and Chichoo on this thread (when both players are chill)?
this is so frikin weird tf?

Nah its true

Cryo > Zekken in 2022 on XSET
and Cryo still clears. Zekken just on better team (SEN)

how tf did u actuallybelieve that?
he was being sarcastic to lighten up the mood...

I didnt know you could be this dumb.

Bias really blinds people like you.

it should be DRX/100T finals as I have already predicted

Alfajer isnt toxic like Demon1 though lmao?????

what is ur point

Alfajer > Chichoo

alfajer
0 debate

keep just ignoring the GOAT's results (on multiple roles) and staying deluded.

his trophies/stats/and played roles at tier 1 clear all other players by a lot. and he has a tournament MVP (according to liquipedia): https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/Statistics

although for some reason, this shit has Marved > Yay in Reykjavik 2022, and Aspas with 0.99 rating and not even finals MVP???? > Sacy&Pancada in Champs 2022. I dont remember pre-franchising MVPs being official so this might just be made up (on liquipedia)

Chronicle:
Has played all roles in the game to a tier 1 level:
2021: Initiator (Recon/Support)
2022: Initiator + Controller + Duelist + Chamber
2023: Flex Initiator (Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2024: Flex Initiator (Recon/Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2025: Sentinel + Viper + Flex Initiator (Flash/Support)

Trophies: 3, Finals: 5, Top 4s: 6, Top 6s: 7, Top 8s: 8
International Appearances: 8/14

Best performances:
Berlin 2021: Liquipedia says he was MVP, but most people (including me) believe he was 2nd MVP (VERY VERY closely after nAts)
Champs 2021: MVP (but losing team), so 2nd MVP (after zeek)
Toronto 2025: 2nd MVP on losing team (3rd MVP of the series overall)

International Ratings:
1.26(#3), 1.19(#4), 1.10(#14 min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.19(#3), 0.94(#53), N/A(China), 1.21(#4), 1.13 (#8)
🚨🚨🚨5 International Tournaments of being a minimum top 8 rated player. More than Aspas.

Player Ranking Every Year:
2021: #2 player of the year (after GMB nAts)
2022: N/A
2023: #6 player of the year (after Leo, Alfajer, Demon1, Aspas, Derke)
2024: #12 player of the year (after T3xture, Zekken, Meteor, RieNs, Aspas, Karon, W00t, Derke, TenZ, Chichoo, Zmjjkk)
2025: ~#5 player of the year so far (after Alfajer, F0rsaken, Meteor, Trent. Debatable: Derke, T3xture)

HIJACK COMMENT:
top 20 all time:

1. Chronicle
2. Derke
3. Alfajer
4. Aspas
5. nAts
6. Leo
7. Sacy
8. Yay
9. Less
10. MaKo
11. TenZ
12. Boaster
13. Meteor
14. Jawgemo
15. cNed
16. F0rsaken
17. Saadhak
18. BuZz
19. t3xture
20. Zmjjkk

Derke literally does what you said about Aspas, but better (longer)

stats:
DERKE:

1. Derke has qualified/attended 11/14 VCT International Events (tied for the most international appearances)
   • Reykjavik 2021, Champs Berlin 2021, Reykjavik 2022(Derke had covid), Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Bangkok 2025
2. Derke has always placed top 8 teams in every tournament he attended:
   2nd, 5th-8th, 4th, 5th-6th, 1st, 1st, 4th, 7th-8th, 5th-6th, 4th
   • top 8 placements: 10/10
   • top 4 placements: 6/10
   • top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
   • top 1 placements: 2/10 (2 Trophies)
3. Best Stats:
   • 1.06 (#14), 1.28 (#1), 1.09 (#18), 1.22 (#4), 1.13 (#10 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.08 (#15), 1.04 (#29), 258.5 ACS (#1 | China so no ratings), 1.22 (#2), 1.18 (#4)
   • Derke: top 10 stats for 6 tournaments
   • Derke: top 20 stats in 9 tournaments
4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
   • ~#6 player of 2021
   • ~#6 player of 2022
   • ~#5 player of 2023
   • ~#8 player of 2024
   • ~#7-#12 player of 2025 already due to insane (like INSANEEEE) performance in the first third of 2025

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ASPAS:

1. Aspas has qualified/attended 9/14 VCT International Events
   • Reykjavik 2022, Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Toronto 2025
2. Aspas placements:
   • 2nd, 11th-12th, 1st, 2nd, 7th-8th, 3rd, 9th-10th, 3rd, 11th-12th
   • top 8 placements: 6/9
   • top 4 placements: 5/9
   • top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
   • top 1 placements: 1/10 (1 Trophy)
3. Aspas stats:
   • 1.18 (#4), 1.04 (#25), 0.99 (#39), 1.11 (#13 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.11 (#10), 1.15 (#8), 237.8 ACS (#6 | China so no ratings), 1.14 (#11), 0.53 (#59)
   • Aspas: top 10 stats for 4 tournaments
   • Aspas: top 20 stats for 6 tournaments
4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
   • #7 player of 2022
   • #4 player of 2023
   • #5 player of 2024
   • ~#16-#20 player of 2025 so far

more time

FNATIC always does good when they have more time

however, I dont think FNC/PRX should be that high since they have less practice time than other teams

TenZ??????????

Chron, Derke, Alfajer, Aspas, nAts, Leo, Sacy, Yay, Less, MaKo all clear him

yay was a top 5-8 player in 2021 and #1 player of 2022

that easily puts him in top 15

meanwhile, TenZ was around #4 best player of 2021 (after nAts, Chron, cNed) and around top 7-10 in 2024.

fake

if ur talking about my post, I wasnt disrespecting him

its just that Leo needs to play a bit more to go higher in all time player rankings

he is the #1 most ideal player for any team though

Fnatic and Paper Rex wont do much

They r tired and have less prep time than other teams

put them lower

yes I agree with you.
but you cant say yet that Derke hasnt done shit outside of FNC when he has only been out of FNATIC for 2 vct stages (Kickoff 2025, Stage 1 2025).
also now Trexx being toxic led to botality falling off, so Derke cant do much else in 2025

bro forgot about Bangkok and we are still in 2025
I would fully agree with you, but after watching the Vitality games in bangkok, I cant. He was insane

saadhak has been added to 20.

I could see him not being in top 15 though since what you said is all TenZ has.

bro disappeared for the entirety of 2022-2023 and in the middle of 2024

EWC > RB Homeground for sure no?
prize pool in EWC is insane

we still counting this era as a trophy drought right?

also i think its pretty unlikely EMEA wins (FNC has less time to prep than other teams and just came off a rough 2nd place. no Team Liquid at the event either to do a run)

stick to being an NPC

I just remembered this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUYPykHwRgQ

bro chronicle.... (-1zillion aura holy)

ardiis the goat for this

sayf was better u recency biased fuck

Sayf was basically the EMEA goat from 2021-2024 (played Duelist, Flex, and Sentinel). All of a sudden when he decided to be IGL and started putting lower numbers, he was "never good"

derke > aspas and alfa

DERKE:

1. Derke has qualified/attended 11/14 VCT International Events (tied for the most international appearances)
   • Reykjavik 2021, Champs Berlin 2021, Reykjavik 2022, Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Bangkok 2025
2. Derke has always placed top 8 teams in every tournament:
   2nd, 5th-8th, 4th, 5th-6th, 1st, 1st, 4th, 7th-8th, 5th-6th, 4th
   • top 8 placements: 10/10
   • top 4 placements: 6/10
   • top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
   • top 1 placements: 2/10 (2 Trophies)
3. Best Stats:
   • 1.06 (#14), 1.28 (#1), 1.09 (#18), 1.22 (#4), 1.13 (#10 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.08 (#15), 1.04 (#29), 258.5 ACS (#1 | China so no ratings), 1.22 (#2), 1.18 (#4)
   • Derke: top 10 stats for 6 tournaments
   • Derke: top 20 stats in 9 tournaments
4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
   • ~#6 player of 2021
   • ~#6 player of 2022
   • ~#5 player of 2023
   • ~#8 player of 2024
   • ~#7-#12 player of 2025 already due to insane (like INSANEEEE) performance in the first third of 2025

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ASPAS:

1. Aspas has qualified/attended 9/14 VCT International Events
   • Reykjavik 2022, Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Toronto 2025
2. Aspas placements:
   • 2nd, 11th-12th, 1st, 2nd, 7th-8th, 3rd, 9th-10th, 3rd, 11th-12th
   • top 8 placements: 6/9
   • top 4 placements: 5/9
   • top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
   • top 1 placements: 1/10 (1 Trophy)
3. Aspas stats:
   • 1.18 (#4), 1.04 (#25), 0.99 (#39), 1.11 (#13 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.11 (#10), 1.15 (#8), 237.8 ACS (#6 | China so no ratings), 1.14 (#11), 0.53 (#59)
   • Aspas: top 10 stats for 4 tournaments
   • Aspas: top 20 stats for 6 tournaments
4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
   • #7 player of 2022
   • #4 player of 2023
   • #5 player of 2024
   • ~#16-#20 player of 2025 so far

both are in 21-30 with people like Shao, Suygetsu, Crashies, Marved, Stax, etc

cuz of your flair and single-elim
NAVI (looked better than FNATIC, FUT, and VIT in 2024 excluding stage 2 (when d00mbr0s left)) couldve been a top 5-8 overall team in 2024, but Heretics...

Before d00mbr0s left NAVI, he was top 6 and top 10 stats in EMEA 2024:

1. https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1925/champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff
2. https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1998/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1

he also has the greatest clutch of all time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dSXNrzeUcE

all im gonna say. NAVI was great. fuck the management

nah Suygetsu is still pretty good if he is put on the right team

god tier players that didnt play at Toronto (no order):

1. Derke
2. Leo
3. Sayf
4. Shao
5. Suygetsu
6. Trexx
7. Cloud
8. LESS

Stop putting him #1-#4 in all time player rankings. so overrated.

Yes, he is the initiator GOAT. Yes, he is the best player to have on a team. Yes, he is every coach's dream. However, Chron, Derke, Alfajer, Aspas, and maybe nAts clear him all time success/results. Yes, he is the #1 player you want to have on a team, but for all time player rankings, he needs to play more to go higher up in them.

Also all this Leo glaze from the average Valorant-watching NPC comes from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMMh22ikCI8 (be honest).

my top 20 all time:

1. Chronicle
2. Derke
3. Alfajer
4. Aspas
5. nAts
6. Leo
7. Yay
8. TenZ
9. Less
10. Meteor
11. MaKo
12. Boaster
13. Sacy
14. F0rsaken
15. cNed
16. Saadhak
17. t3xture
18. Zmjjkk
19. BuZz
20. Jawgemo

nah it was pretty good. Many clutches/insane moments from SEN. NA vs EU was just so hype (since NA was being shit on Counter-Strike). All 3 maps were OT/11-13 too so not the worst.

here is my rough ranking (copy pasted):

1. FNC vs LOUD (LOCK//IN 2023)
2. EDG vs TH (Champions 2024)
3. FPX vs PRX (Copenhagen 2022)
4. T1 vs G2 (Bangkok 2024)
5. GMB vs ENVY (Berlin 2021)
6. SEN vs FNC (Reykjavik 2021)
7. ACE vs GMB (Champs 2021)
8. LOUD vs OPTC (Champs 2022)
9. SEN vs GENG (Madrid 2024)
10. EG vs PRX (Champs 2023)
11. PRX vs FNC (Toronto 2025)
12. GENG vs TH (Shanghai 2024)
13. OPTC vs LOUD (Reykjavik 2022)
14. FNC vs EG (Tokyo 2023)

I as a FNATIC fan agree that FNC vs EG was the worst finals in terms of entertainment so far.
However, the few days after FNC vs EG was my best time on vlr.

???????????????????????????????????

that shit was so cinema from Gambit.

• cringe nAts viper ult on Bind.
• Redgar Reyna and Chron Brim was the goofiest shit ever (on Gambit's perma-ban of Haven - also Envy's best map)
• 30 Chronicle 3k/4ks

lmfaooooo

yes tejo yes lose