dont care and u shouldnt either
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| Registered: | April 3, 2022 |
| Last post: | August 27, 2025 at 3:49 AM |
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top 5 in the convo for sure. surprised no one mentioned him yet
FNATIC got 4th pick in playoffs in Toronto against the hottest team at the time.
G2 had map ban advantages, but lost (legit Pacific win).
TH champs just lost to LEV for some reason (legit CN win).
TH had a sub (new roster less prac in earlier playoffs) in Shanghai.
they wont
4/8 of the last 4 grand finals have included the West and 4/8 Asia.
Asia 3-2 West, Asia 3-2 West, Asia 3-2 West, Asia 3-1 West (Asia also had map ban advantages in 3/4 of these GF)
relax. also dont forget Pacific's diabolical fall off in Champs 2024 (just 2 events ago)
ragebait
0/8
FNATIC are the actual most enjoyable team if you understand Valorant to a deep level (not saying I am one of these people). You can see how ppl that are smart actually get interested when FNATIC play.
when did i crash out lmfao???
bro is overexaggerating me just saying single-elim tournaments are better 90% of the time lol
derke > aspas reasons:
DERKE:
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ASPAS:
ye but im not expecting the exact same people to see this
surprisingly, the exact same people are is why there is this reaction (one of them is you)
but rn its relevant (Plat Chat)
also ive seen like 10 other ppl post this within the last day-2 and nobody said anything
suygetsu and ardiis didnt fall off much (far away from the convo here)
ardiis was like top 5 and top 10 stats in EMEA Kickoff 2024 and EMEA stage 1 2024. Suygetsu was just as high or higher prob too
NAVI and ardiis with them only fell off after d00mbr0s left (stage 2).
all the propaganda is making ardiis seem like he fell off
i just posted this for Plat chat. last itme i posted was around Toronto
plat chat hosted a google form and will be showing their and the community's top 10 players OAT.
TenZ too high I can agree
top 20:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13VR6hms2bg
now that i got you to click on this for plat chat's upcoming top 10 OAT list:
real top 10, factual, if you disagree, you have recency bias/have memory loss/have disability in watching Valorant/are a very new VCT viewer:
Boaster would be #3, but I put him -4 since bot aim
Derke clears Aspas in every way. You have been brainwashed by Americas propaganda my friend. Same with Tenz, Meteor, F0rsaken being too high.
DERKE:
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ASPAS:
nah its only 2 games
surely he didnt actually fall off right?
Demon1 is so overrated
bro is a 1-2 event merchant and is somehow one of the most discussed players
??? reply with who you think it is before you click who I think it is in the spoiler
Redgar.
2021: Greatest IGL of all time. Won finals with REYNA 3-0 vs the OPTIC team. Lost Champs 2021 finals 2-3.
2024: became an EMEA bum team's (GiantX) Gekko Wingman Spike Planter in late 2024.
wtf dont compare me to that disgusting thing. I almost never engaged with that user.
it was peak Valorant. you got the real best teams, crazy new matchups and rosters, unpredictability, the start of franchising and not loser teams who needed second chances (only exception is FPX(EMEA) in 2022 Copenhagen since they had a sub before being in the lower bracket)
bro its only been 2 events of somewhat Asia dominance
Champs 2024 was diabolical for pacific (5th-6th, 9th-12th, 9th-12th, 13th-16th). Those results were worse than any of AMERICAS or EMEA's worst results
Teams that are EQUALLY WARMED UP and can adapt to teams without second chances are real winners.
Double-elim only makes sense in VCT internationals since group stage teams get a warm-up while 1st seeds dont.
nah id be off Valorant if Asia became the best region of Valorant that soon. they would have to be so dominant for the next year/two for that to happen (them becoming the best of all time) that region competitiveness (Valorant's main purpose to watch) wouldnt be a thing anymore.
bro cant type words
keep spamming those buttons
if u dont agree with this, ur braindamaged
nah. we can say (still) EMEA is the best of all time right now
fnatic is the least likely to get out in my opinion (THIS WAS SAID BEFORE EWC STARTED)
FNC are tired from Toronto and have the hardest group.
KC can easily beat one of G2/PRX if they have their 50:50 peak day.
TH have hopefully free games of RRQ and TITAN.
BBL clear SEN by miles (SEN are chinese farmers and go 0-2 in tournaments and 1-13 to TL otherwise)
Fnatic wont be winning
they definitely wont beat the 2nd place curse after TH and G2 fell victim to it.
actual champs winner: DRX or 100T
Watching emea bums like koi, gx, m8, apeks >= watching amer tier 3 teams/never do anything in playoffs teams 2g, kru, loud, eg, c9
group stage merchants C9 are easily the most entertaining team though
I fully agree with you. I hate Heretics (first trophy to KR, first trophy to CN, and with Heretics law, first trophy to SEA).
but this doesnt mean EMEA isnt close to Asia (they r both close regions at the top).
decent writing but wtf. yall need to get out of your depressed phases and lock in
people clowned on paper rex for years because being close/2nd place wasn't good enoughyou were the same people that said it mattered since it was your region.
now that it is EMEA and AMERICAS, you guys dont say the same. hypocrites.
The OP is talking about EMEA and AMERICAS fall off. That started when Asia started their 4 trophy winstreak (Shanghai).
People like you do not use logic and are just blinded by bias when saying things man...
0/8 attempt. expected better
an entertaining 3-2, 3-2, 3-1 is not a waste of time LMFAO. open your brain up
you are the same type of guy who said Pacific was a competitive region while they had no international trophies until mid-2024 (only a year ago)
**I knew they were a fluke team. Fuck GEN.G for choking and creating a fake underdog story.
Heretics, Bilibili, RRQ were dogshit teams anyways though.**
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why TL is better than SEN:
why VIT is better than SEN:
also I agree BLG is better than Trace. When did I disagree with that or even mention Trace??
mine were accurate
what the fuck is 3/4th last??? just say 9th-10th bro 😭
(drx 3/4th last t1 1st) blg 3rd/4th last xlg 5/6th last wolves 3rdthe way bro's trying to sneak shit with the numbers i cant bro
nah u gotta be baiting. im done with this convo
I was #27 and u were #30 no?
IM saying 2025 overall has VIT. Not current bro. Can u guys read my original message???
VIT won against T1 (1st), DRX (5th-6th)
SEN beat XI LAI (0-2 7th-8th team with a sub), BILIBILI (9th-10th, lucky to not be 11th-12th since BLG got a free game against TL without nAts), and WOL (3rd, only good win ig)
TL is just way better than SEN in both events clearly (TL and SEN shouldnt be compared).
VIT has a top 4 (better than SEN's bottom placement becuz they got a free Americas slot in Bangkok, and SEN beating chinese teams in Toronto). VIT also has a regional trophy > SEN 0 regional trophies (if that matters - i dont think so though)
SEN just has a 0-2 placement and beating Chinese teams placement. there is no way they can be counted
realistic 7th best team (after PRX, FNC, G2, WOL, GEN.G, TL) at Toronto
if they r now counted as +1 for americas region's teams, then why in 2023 were NAVI (3rd or 4th in LOCK//IN), TL (5th) and FUT (7th-8th in champs 2023) never counted as teams for EMEA in 2023 instead of only FNATIC
trust me ur biased for americas rn and we cant count SEN for americas rn
SEN 0-2 PRX, SEN -12 rounds
https://www.vlr.gg/498625/sentinels-vs-paper-rex-valorant-masters-toronto-2025-ubsf/?game=221160&tab=overview
TL 1-2 PRX, TL -8 rounds
https://www.vlr.gg/490314/paper-rex-vs-team-liquid-valorant-masters-toronto-2025-r3-1-1/?game=217272&tab=overview
this is the closest comparison we can get for right now and TL is better.
On top of this, TL had 2 weeks of prep (got very messed up with the sub situation). While SEN had 4 weeks of prep and 0 jetlag since the event was in North America.
SEN has been dogshit in the last 2 events and is just lucky that the rest of Americas is worse.
People are too biased to see that Americas is the 3rd worst region (China is the worst).
SEN went 0-2 in Bangkok.
In Toronto, SEN only beat Chinese teams (Xi LAI, BILIBILI, WOLVES when they were just warming up) in mostly close games.
TL meanwhile: https://www.vlr.gg/449003/team-liquid-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-r2-0-1/?game=202776&tab=overview
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