and TL is way better than SEN lol. and close to PRX (winners of the tournament)
"Yes and?". wdym
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and TL is way better than SEN lol. and close to PRX (winners of the tournament)
"Yes and?". wdym
Derke clears Aspas in every way
DERKE:
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ASPAS:
EMEA falloff??????????
last 4 grand finals apperances (the 4 grand finals that Asia has won):
and you may think Americas is dogshit after looking at that^. but Top 4 Stats in the last 4 tournaments (the 4 tournaments Asia has won):
winning trophies does not mean best region or best region by miles. Otherwise people wouldnt be saying AMER > EMEA in 2023 while FNATIC was winning everything.
current (Toronto):
PAC: PRX, GEN.G
EMEA: FNC, TL
AMERICAS: G2
2025 overall:
PAC: PRX, T1, maybe GEN.G, maybe DRX
EMEA: FNC, TL, VIT
AMERICAS: G2, maybe SEN
we truly do know which region is the 1 team region. EMEA is still good lol
No Derke???????????????????
and bro has cryo, zekken, jingg, and zmjjkk
WHAT THE FUCK?????????
Derke is literally better than jingg (by a LOT) in everything u mentioned for jingg, let alone what u didnt mention
zekken isnt even top 20
holy FUCKING SHIT THIS GUY HAS RECENCY BIAS LIKE INSANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
NO DERKE???????????????????
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
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got 86/113:
mostly missed T2 newbies. at least I got TH weber (2023) though (he was the least picked)
The 27 players I missed:
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DRX was ur highest placement at champs 2024 (saved your region from total embarassment)
placements at champs 2024:
fraudPAC: 5th-6th, 9th-12th, 9th-12th, 13th-16th
EMEA: 2nd, 5th-6th, 9th-12th, 13th-16th
AMER: 3rd, 4th, 7th-8th, 9th-12th
CN: 1st, 7th-8th, 13th-16th, 13th-16th
hasnt even been a year since this shit performance from fraudPAC. Even worse than EMEA and AMER worst performances
i think it will be EDG, TH, LEV
CN > EMEA > AMER > fraudPAC???
still we say that the best team of 2021 was Gambit, 2022 OPTIC, 2023 FNATIC, 2024 GEN.G
it isnt as important in Valorant. nobody cares about Acend, Eg, Edg
+played every role in the game
+has multiple high stats at international tournaments (best stats overall at ints)
+on Gambit 2021 (best team of 2021). on FNATIC 2023 (best team of 2023)
season 3 is like a season 2 part 2 basically (they are shorter seasons that shouldve just been together)
its not as bad as people say. still worth watching to see what happens (if you have the time)
the reason ppl say it was bad is because there were a few storylines with unsatisfying endings leading to people seeing the screen time for those storylines as a waste of time. People also disliked the inclusion of one character that kinda ruined the Squid games part of season 3.
DO NOT CLICK THE SPOILER IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED
the baby ruined the games
bro forgot the actual #1 phantom skin: Prism
will give u the aim of the best phantom gamer: nAts
nerves in an off season-like tournament against an EMEA bum team (M8s)????
NAVI shouldnt be hiring players like that lmfao.
ngl FNC vs M3C fracture (1st map in the series) was the greatest map ive watched and even better than the 23-21 on Split
it was the perfect showcase to understand the type of team FNATIC is.
Hands >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feet
hands are one of the deciders for sure
nah I genuinely believe FNATIC lose
4 EU vs NA:
FNC 0-2 100T, TH 1-2 NRG, BBL 2-0 SEN, KC 1-2 G2
4 PAC vs CN:
PRX 2-0 BLG, DRX 2-0 XLG, RRQ 2-0 TITAN, GEN.G 1-2 EDG
cNed in Berlin 2021
Alfajer in Copenhagen 2022 ig
dont forget how hard they fell off at Champs 2024 though (also the 2024 region ranking by average placement is AMER > EMEA > PAC > CN)
also all 3 of PAC's grand final wins have been close (3-2, 3-2, 3-1). They also had map advantage in all 3, which makes the 2nd team look just as good as them or even better.
until a PAC team can win dominantly or a PAC team wins from lower bracket, we arent in the pac era
STATS (Chronicle clears f0rsaken by miles):
Chronicle:
2021: Initiator (Recon/Support)
2022: Initiator + Controller + Duelist + Chamber
2023: Flex Initiator (Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2024: Flex Initiator (Recon/Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2025: Sentinel + Viper + Flex Initiator (Flash/Support)
Trophies: 3, Finals: 5, Top 4s: 6, Top 6s: 7, Top 8s: 8
International Appearances: 8/14
Best performances:
Berlin 2021: Liquipedia says he was MVP, but most people (including me) believe he was 2nd MVP (VERY VERY closely after nAts)
Champs 2021: MVP (but losing team), so 2nd MVP (after zeek)
Toronto 2025: 2nd MVP on losing team (3rd MVP of the series overall)
International Ratings:
1.26(#3), 1.19(#4), 1.10(#14 min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.19(#3), 0.94(#53), N/A(China), 1.21(#4), 1.13 (#8)
5 Tournaments of being a minimum top 8 rated player.
Player Ranking Every Year:
2021: #2 player of the year (after GMB nAts)
2022: N/A
2023: #6 player of the year (after Leo, Alfajer, Demon1, Aspas, Derke)
2024: #12 player of the year (after T3xture, Zekken, Meteor, RieNs, Aspas, Karon, W00t, Derke, TenZ, Chichoo, Zmjjkk)
2025: ~#5 player of the year so far (after Alfajer, F0rsaken, Meteor, Trent. Debatable: Derke, T3xture)
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F0rsaken:
2021: Duelist
2022: Duelist + Chamber
2023: Duelist + Initiator (Flash/Support) + Controller + Sentinel + IGL
2024: Flex Initiator (Recon/Support) + Yoru + Harbor + Cypher + IGL
2025: Controller + Flex Initiator (Recon/Support) + IGL
Trophies: 1, Finals: 3, Top 4s: 6, Top 6s: 7, Top 8s: 7
International Appearances: 11/14
Best performances:
Toronto 2025: MVP of Toronto 2025's winning team (realistic: 2nd MVP)
International Ratings:
0.93 (#45), 1.12 (#12), 0.98 (#35), 0.91 (#57), N/A (min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 0.96 (#39), 1.01 (#33), 1.01 (#16), N/A(China), 0.95 (#49), 1.12 (#10)
1 tournament of being a top 10 player.
Player Ranking Every Year:
2021: N/A
2022: #13 player of the year (after Yay, MaKo, Sacy, pAncada, Shao, Derke, Aspas, Suygetsu, Marved, Less, Crashies, Alfajer)
2023: #18 player of the year (after Leo, Alfajer, Demon1, Aspas, Derke, Chronicle, Jawgemo, Less, d4v41, Sayf, Ethan, something, cNed, Zmjjkk, s0m, Shao, MaKo)
2024: N/A
2025: ~#1-#3 player of the year (convo: F0rsaken, Alfajer, Meteor)
ewwww
better:
FNATIC, NAVI, TH, TL, SENTINELS, NRG, 100T, DRX, GEN.G, PRX (10 team playoffs trust)
nah he is underrated
last year, people were calling him the EMEA GOAT since he had just been so good from 2021-2024.
all of a sudden, people forgot how good he was for 4 years and can only remember 2025 IGL. recency bias is insane
has to be Sayf right now
people forgot he carried Team Liquid in 2023 and Team Vitality in 2024 to EMEA grand finals with pretty much EMEA bum teammates/washed teammates.
he also carried GUILD with Leo & Trexx in 2021-2022 (one of the best Jetts & Chambers)
now that he decided to IGL in 2025, suddenly he was "never" good
aspas? not good with raze
also bro described Leo and Aspas and changed Leo to Aspas
FNC vs DRX is the dream finals (Will Boaster be able to retire peacefully or will MaKo finally get his trophy?)
you forgot derke, boaster and less
remove f0rsaken/meteor/t3xture (all 11-20)