Thas what im saying WTFFFF

cancel these biased PACIFIC FANS

Chronicle is #1 though be fr. Did you forget Toronto?

#11-#13 makes sense for him right now

he has never had good stats other than 10th best stats at Toronto

and its not like he is the sole reason PRX is winning unlike Boaster's IGL

????????????

CHRONICLE IS THE GOAT BRO

F0rsaken 4?????????????????????
TENZ 5???????????
SACY > LEO????????????????????????
METEOR higher than #10 or #11?????????????????

community:
DERKE #8??????????
ASPAS #1??????????????????????????????
F0rsaken #3????????????

??? get ur facts right

DERKE:

1. Derke has qualified/attended 11/14 VCT International Events (tied for the most international appearances)
   • Reykjavik 2021, Champs Berlin 2021, Reykjavik 2022(Derke had covid), Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Bangkok 2025
2. Derke has always placed top 8 teams in every tournament he attended:
   2nd, 5th-8th, 4th, 5th-6th, 1st, 1st, 4th, 7th-8th, 5th-6th, 4th
   • top 8 placements: 10/10
   • top 4 placements: 6/10
   • top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
   • top 1 placements: 2/10 (2 Trophies)
3. Best Stats:
   • 1.06 (#14), 1.28 (#1), 1.09 (#18), 1.22 (#4), 1.13 (#10 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.08 (#15), 1.04 (#29), 258.5 ACS (#1 | China so no ratings), 1.22 (#2), 1.18 (#4)
   • Derke: top 10 stats for 6 tournaments
   • Derke: top 20 stats in 9 tournaments
4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
   • ~#6 player of 2021
   • ~#6 player of 2022
   • ~#5 player of 2023
   • ~#8 player of 2024
   • ~#7-#12 player of 2025 already due to insane (like INSANEEEE) performance in the first third of 2025

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ASPAS:

1. Aspas has qualified/attended 9/14 VCT International Events
   • Reykjavik 2022, Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Toronto 2025
2. Aspas placements:
   • 2nd, 11th-12th, 1st, 2nd, 7th-8th, 3rd, 9th-10th, 3rd, 11th-12th
   • top 8 placements: 6/9
   • top 4 placements: 5/9
   • top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
   • top 1 placements: 1/10 (1 Trophy)
3. Aspas stats:
   • 1.18 (#4), 1.04 (#25), 0.99 (#39), 1.11 (#13 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.11 (#10), 1.15 (#8), 237.8 ACS (#6 | China so no ratings), 1.14 (#11), 0.53 (#59)
   • Aspas: top 10 stats for 4 tournaments
   • Aspas: top 20 stats for 6 tournaments
4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
   • #7 player of 2022
   • #4 player of 2023
   • #5 player of 2024
   • ~#16-#20 player of 2025 so far

And he wasnt even the best in 2021 factually and by everyone's opinions (nAts, Chronicle, and probably cNed were better than him in 2021 overall)

even before Alfa Toronto.
Tenz was irrelevant in 2022 and 2023

bro WTF????????????

Wtf am I watching on Plat Chat???

this isnt even the community

this is plat CHAT WHAT THE FUCK??????????

plat chat is disgusting.

anyways my list:

1. Chronicle
2. Derke
3. Aspas
4. Alfajer
5. Boaster
6. Yay
7. Leo
8. Sacy
9. nAts
10. Meteor
11. TenZ
12. F0rsaken
13. MaKo
14. Less
15. cNed
16. Saadhak
17. BuZz
18. t3xture
19. Jawgemo
20. Zmjjkk

21-75 (no order in each category). This can be improved and is very rough:
21-30: Shao, Suygetsu, Demon1, Crashies, FNS, Zekken, d4v41, Jingg, Chichoo, Munchkin
31-40: RieNs, Ange1, Zeek, Ethan, Marved, Boostio, pAncada, Keznit, Stax, mindfreak
41-50: ScreaM, Sayf, Ardiis, Redgar, Victor, Trent, kiNgg, Something, Karon, Smoggy
51-60: Starxo, Jamppi, Sheydos, Zyppan, Wo0t, Kaajak, Leaf, Mazino, sScary
61-70: Miniboo, Benjyfishy, SicK, bang, c0m, johnqt, Heat, Zest, Rb, nobody
71-75: Nukkye, s0m, Cryo, Zellsis, Asuna

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Why Derke > Aspas? :

ye physics 1 was made for inclusivity or some shit this year

way too easy (all the nerfs to the test too lol)

he has FK:FD of 37:31 at Toronto (also this is only 1 tournament)

that is okay, but isnt even close to as good as Alfajer's 73:45

cNed was not just good at Champs 2021 (he was really good (like not human) from 2020-2022 and still topping stats on NAVI in 2023)
he was the GOAT awp and probably still is unless u wanna argue for Zmjjkk (but he kinda doesnt AWP as much anymore).

Its the team(PRX)'s playstyle that has gotten them the success, not just forsaken

i got ez 5 on ap phys 1 (4 days of prep) and 5 on ap csa (2 days of prep)

im thinking of taking AP Chem. is it a lot of memorizng or using logic or mix?

removed him

thas why i have said before the 21-75 is rough (not in that post though)

ok keep saying im baiting instead of explaining that impact. You are the same type of person to say Boaster is not top 10. You are just biased lmao.

im not saying he isnt good, just not top 10.

here is chronicle compared to f0rsaken:
Chronicle:
2021: Initiator (Recon/Support)
2022: Initiator + Controller + Duelist + Chamber
2023: Flex Initiator (Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2024: Flex Initiator (Recon/Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2025: Sentinel + Viper + Flex Initiator (Flash/Support)

Trophies: 3, Finals: 5, Top 4s: 6, Top 6s: 7, Top 8s: 8
International Appearances: 8/14

Best performances:
Berlin 2021: 2nd MVP (VERY VERY closely after nAts). The official MVP on liquipedia though (but I dont agree with liquipedia and think he was worse than nAts)
Champs 2021: MVP (but losing team), so 2nd MVP (after zeek)
Toronto 2025: 2nd MVP on losing team (3rd MVP of the series overall)

International Ratings:
1.26(#3), 1.19(#4), 1.10(#14 min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.19(#3), 0.94(#53), N/A(China), 1.21(#4), 1.13 (#8)
5 Tournaments of being a minimum top 8 rated player.

forsaken is only there cuz he has attended so many events

if u look at his international stats though, none of them are as impressive as what the others have really

F0rsaken:
2021: Duelist
2022: Duelist + Chamber
2023: Duelist + Initiator (Flash/Support) + Controller + Sentinel + IGL
2024: Flex Initiator (Recon/Support) + Yoru + Harbor + Cypher + IGL
2025: Controller + Flex Initiator (Recon/Support) + IGL

Trophies: 1, Finals: 3, Top 4s: 6, Top 6s: 7, Top 8s: 7
International Appearances: 11/14

Best performances:
Toronto 2025: MVP of Toronto 2025's winning team (realistic: 2nd MVP)

International Ratings:
0.93 (#45), 1.12 (#12), 0.98 (#35), 0.91 (#57), N/A (min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 0.96 (#39), 1.01 (#33), 1.01 (#16), N/A(China), 0.95 (#49), 1.12 (#10)
1 tournament of being a top 10 player.

i watched the haunting of hill house show. it was really good

idk about the book though

What r u saying??

?

Hate him for what??? Ppl just hate him becuz he is Polish or something? nobody ever elaborates
yall are disgusting for that.

LotharHS
reason: VERY knowledgeable, entertaining, has a personality, mature, chill chat. And VERY fun to watch his stupid Immortal teammates throwing his games. He also does watchparties for some games and is one of the best Yoru in the world (at least strategically), with players like Jawgemo and teams like G2 taking his stuff (by asking him ofc).

2nd & 3rd would be Sideshow/Sliggy
4th FNS

being downfragged for 0 reasons. you guys are either xenophobic/racist or trying to ragebait i cant tell.

its just a fact though that they are in the top 10 though. not bias
I have stats to prove they are better lol

hijack:
the first 10 below:

1. Chronicle
2. Derke
3. Alfajer
4. Aspas
5. nAts
6. Leo
7. Boaster
8. Yay
9. Sacy
10. MaKo
11. Meteor
12. Less
13. TenZ
14. cNed
15. F0rsaken
16. Saadhak
17. BuZz
18. t3xture
19. Jawgemo
20. Zmjjkk

TenZ at 6 for what???????????
Reykjavik and got a trophy at Madrid. That is it LMFAO

the first 10 below:

1. Chronicle
2. Derke
3. Alfajer
4. Aspas
5. nAts
6. Leo
7. Boaster
8. Yay
9. Sacy
10. MaKo
11. Meteor
12. Less
13. TenZ
14. cNed
15. F0rsaken
16. Saadhak
17. BuZz
18. t3xture
19. Jawgemo
20. Zmjjkk

21-75 (no order in each category):
21-30: Shao, Suygetsu, Demon1, Crashies, FNS, Zekken, d4v41, Jingg, Chichoo, Munchkin
31-40: RieNs, Ange1, Zeek, Ethan, Marved, Boostio, pAncada, Keznit, Stax, mindfreak
41-50: ScreaM, Sayf, Ardiis, Redgar, Victor, Trent, kiNgg, Something, Karon, Smoggy
51-60: Starxo, Jamppi, Sheydos, Zyppan, Wo0t, Kaajak, Leaf, Mazino, sScary
61-70: Keiko, Benjyfishy, SicK, bang, c0m, johnqt, Heat, Zest, Rb, nobody
71-75: Nukkye, s0m, Cryo, Zellsis, Asuna

1. Chronicle
2. Derke
3. Alfajer
4. Aspas
5. nAts
6. Leo
7. Boaster
8. Yay
9. Sacy
10. MaKo
11. Meteor
12. Less
13. TenZ
14. cNed
15. F0rsaken
16. Saadhak
17. BuZz
18. t3xture
19. Jawgemo
20. Zmjjkk

21-75 (no order in each category):
21-30: Shao, Suygetsu, Demon1, Crashies, FNS, Zekken, d4v41, Jingg, Chichoo, Munchkin
31-40: RieNs, Ange1, Zeek, Ethan, Marved, Boostio, pAncada, Keznit, Stax, mindfreak
41-50: ScreaM, Sayf, Ardiis, Redgar, Victor, Trent, kiNgg, Something, Karon, Smoggy
51-60: Starxo, Jamppi, Sheydos, Zyppan, Wo0t, Kaajak, Leaf, Mazino, sScary
61-70: Miniboo, Benjyfishy, SicK, bang, c0m, johnqt, Heat, Zest, Rb, nobody
71-75: Nukkye, s0m, Cryo, Zellsis, Asuna

Demon1 is like 26-30 probably

he is not even top 20 wtf am I reading holy. why is this something to be discussed????

yall are so clueless and should stop talking its insane.

Chronicle, Derke, Alfajer, Aspas, nAts, Leo, Boaster, Yay, Sacy, Mako, Less, Meteor, TenZ is top 13

BBL will win EWC. Les gooooo

grandpa Ange1 >>>>> PRX:
https://www.vlr.gg/112327/paper-rex-vs-funplus-phoenix-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen-gf/?game=90658&tab=overview

will PRX be able to get revenge on suygetsu????

uh oh

ALL TIME SUCCESS (2020-2025)

1. FNATIC - EMEA
2. PAPER REX - PAC
3. LOUD - AMER
4. ENVY(2020-21)/OPTIC(2022)/NRG(2023-25) - AMER
5. SENTINELS - AMER
6. FPX(EU 2020-22)/NATUS VINCERE(2023-25) - EMEA
7. GAMBIT - EMEA
8. GEN.G(KR) - PAC
9. EDWARD GAMING - CN
10. ACEND - EMEA

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11. EVIL GENIUSES - AMER
12. VS/DRX - PAC
13. TEAM LIQUID - EMEA
14. TEAM HERETICS - EMEA
15. KRÜ - AMER
16. G2(NA)/THE GUARD - AMER
17. T1(KR) - PAC
18. 100 THIEVES - AMER
19. AUSTRALS(2021)/LEVIATÁN(2022-25) - AMER
20. FUT - EMEA

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21. G2(EU) - EMEA
22. X10/XERXIA/TALON - PAC
23. XSET - AMER
24. GUILD - EMEA
25. C9 - AMER
26. ZETA - PAC
27. TEAM VITALITY - EMEA
28. TEAM SECRET - PAC
29. NUTURN - PAC
30. WOLVES - CN

copy paste this in ur message

hijack comment:

real top 30 teams ranking
ALL TIME SUCCESS (2020-2025)

1. FNATIC - EMEA
2. PAPER REX - PAC
3. LOUD - AMER
4. ENVY(2020-21)/OPTIC(2022)/NRG(2023-25) - AMER
5. SENTINELS - AMER
6. FPX(EU 2020-22)/NATUS VINCERE(2023-25) - EMEA
7. GAMBIT - EMEA
8. GEN.G(KR) - PAC
9. EDWARD GAMING - CN
10. ACEND - EMEA

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11. EVIL GENIUSES - AMER
12. VS/DRX - PAC
13. TEAM LIQUID - EMEA
14. TEAM HERETICS - EMEA
15. KRÜ - AMER
16. G2(NA)/THE GUARD - AMER
17. T1(KR) - PAC
18. 100 THIEVES - AMER
19. AUSTRALS(2021)/LEVIATÁN(2022-25) - AMER
20. FUT - EMEA

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21. G2(EU) - EMEA
22. X10/XERXIA/TALON - PAC
23. XSET - AMER
24. GUILD - EMEA
25. C9 - AMER
26. ZETA - PAC
27. TEAM VITALITY - EMEA
28. TEAM SECRET - PAC
29. NUTURN - PAC
30. WOLVES - CN

they dont and almost never have (only matter if 2 teams from the same region are really close in an international success ranking).

its cuz they just played in both tournaments while most other teams didnt

Trace won more rounds in Bangkok than MIBR in Toronto (mibr might have the record for lowest rounds)
and Trace lost to T1 and G2 (the finalists). While MIBR lost to GEN.G and TL.

that was TH in regionals LMFAO

Why would u care about regionals (they have never meant anything in internationals. seed 3s are doing better than higher seeds lol)

i havent created any alt other than sentinelmain378 (which I never used)

that is just boring

this is a placement ranking with trophies mattering a lot.
it is not how the good the teams actually are (id be putting FNC at #1 if that were the case).

I value trophies.

Otherwise Id be putting Team Heretics 2nd (after GEN.G) in 2024 overall team rankings rather than 4th (after GEN.G, EDG, SEN)

Liquid attended both events (unlike Wolves) and beat SEN dominantly at Bangkok, MIBR dominantly at Toronto, and had a closer game to PRX than SEN at Toronto (making them better than SEN at both events with SEN only placing higher due to being able to get 3 chinese games in Toronto)).

Wolves: beat TH (dogshit), beat BLG (dogshit and lucky to even be at 9th-10th since they got a free win against TL w/o nAts), RRQ (dogshit in new meta), and barely beat GEN.G. Then got shit on by PRX and FNC (TL had better performance against PRX than WOL against PRX).

Remember that TL had 2 less weeks of prep and the whole sub situation at Toronto

why is the reaction now so different???

literally everyone agreed with this list 2 weeks ago: https://www.vlr.gg/508479/create-an-actual-world-rankings/#12

nah

TL > Wolves this year for sure

Wolves didnt do anything notable this year other than beat GEN.G (who choked 11-5 or something like that) lol what r u on about. This isnt bait i need an actual response

0/8 what the fuck???

SEN has been worse than TL this year.
and then bro snuck in 100T

current?

best overall ranking for 2025 (everyone actually agrees with this):

1. Paper Rex (N/A, 1st) - PAC (⬆️+2)
2. T1 (1st, N/A) - PAC (⬇️-1)
3. G2 (2nd, 4th) - AMER (⬇️-1)
4. Fnatic (N/A, 2nd) - EMEA
5. Team Liquid (5th-6th, 9th-10th) - EMEA
6. Sentinels (7th-8th, 5th-6th) - AMER
7. Wolves Esports (N/A, 3rd) - CN
8. EDward Gaming (3rd, N/A) - CN
9. Team Vitality (4th, N/A) - EMEA
10. Gen.G (N/A, 5th-6th) - PAC
11. Drx (5th-6th, N/A) - PAC
12. Rex Regum Qeon (N/A, 7th-8th)- PAC
13. Xi Lai Gaming (N/A, 7th-8th) - CN
14. Bilibili Gaming (N/A, 9th-10th) - CN
15. Team Heretics (N/A, 11th-12th) - EMEA
16. Trace Esports (7th-8th, N/A) - CN
17. Mibr (N/A, 11th-12th) - AMER

these are my preds

🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲
🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲
🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲
G2 vs KC
SEN vs BBL
NRG vs TH
100T vs FNC
🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲
🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲
🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲🛢️💲

gonna be an entertaining 3-4 hours