safe to say hes top 3 initiator players oat?
safe to say hes top 3 initiator players oat?
Behind me and Riens
trent is better then riens lol
i mean, if you dont have him in your top 3, you are def trolling
He’s not in mine. He hasn’t won an international. That holds higher value.
So what 3 trophy holders do you have over him??
Unfortunately Leo, brawk, and there is argument for Trent at 3 due to consistency and regional success. However Sacy won masters and champs.
I have to stay consistent
As an NRG fan in no world is brawk better than trent when in comes to oat, and Leo was amazing for one singular year
"Leo was amazing for one singular year" why are we just lying lol
What other year? On guild?
yes? He was also great in 2024 for as long as he could actually play, sure not best players in the year, but only because he literally could not play most of it
He was one of the best players in the world in 2022, why do you think FNC picked him up, and why were they called a superteam lol
Why do u talk without watching the matches
braindead logic
How is winning a brain dead logic. By ur logical primmie is the goat. Trophies is one of the only ways to objectively look at players.
by your logic ethan is the best valorant player to ever live. is that true? no i dont believe so
I do believe Ethan is the GOAT of Valorant. All other ways to calculate this our subjective in nature. If you only look at stats, you end up in a rabbit hole of baiters being the GOAT.
Top 3 with leo riens
It’s Leo, Brawk, Trent. Riens is Trent with less bitches.
Not sure how Brawk has snuck into these convos tbh, is one good tournament enough?
If so, why is Demon1 not the goat of the game?
people dont know what "all time" means apparently
Brawk is not a sneak. He was unfortunately stuck in T2 for too long but has been the best Sova for over a year, both warping the Meta around his unholy Odin abuse and still maintaining form after its nerf. He's the best player on NRG and is frankly underrated.
He is not a better Sova than Trent
Brawk has had 1 good year +he only plays sova hes not even a true init
You’re right that he hasn’t been at the top long but his peak is extremely high. If he maintains form for Champs, it’ll be unarguable.
brawk?!?!?!?!
Top1
stop dickriding Leo he aint doing ts if he was playing in 2026
'playing in 2026' and it's tyloo im crine
he's top 1
Sacy - Leo - Trent
SACY AHAHAHAHHAAHAHHA
yea just log off the site
Why?
playing against Typoo btw
yeah and he ain’t #2 or #3
tr0nt showed up against Ch0n0 and people are glazing him lol
He's good but lets see him against actually good comp first
Leo and Riens easily top 2
idk who is #3. brawk or Trent imo
Can we stop having brawk here? And top 3? Are you guys stupid.
Is the All time top 3
everyone here is dumb asf its leo sacy ethan. tf are you putting people like trent and riens for who have never even touched a trophy
lets get bonecold in this list then
2021 is plumber, saying bonecold doesn't refute anything i said. three i named literally have some of the highest peaks ever. i can never tell if this site even watches the games other than glazing players for beating up toddlers. riens ill give an hm to just because i think he's top 5 but he's definitely not top 3
I just hate the "trophy winner = better" criteria tbh, I don't think it's particularly great at measuring player peaks
for those three at least it works. leo in his prime annihilated international events. sacy was integral to two different trophy winning rosters as a leader (he was mid rounding too) and for the most part was mechnically strong. ethan on eg had some of the best support play oat, especially at champs 2023, although s1mon was prob better just for champs 2024. and of course he played really well last year while igling nrg to the champs win. obviously if u take someone like kiles or even lakia and apply the trophy logic then yeah it doesn't work as well but you can watch a trophy winner and tell if they are good over time
i consider ethan a flex although he plays init more