SEN Rebuild

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#1
Coolkid415
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Drop JonahP and Jerrwin. Sign eeiu and 0XY
Dont forget that Strong still available btw and they should drop Gunther and pick Strong

  • 0XY (duelist)

  • eeiu (scan init)

  • Johnqt (Flex+IGL)

  • Reduxx (Smoke/2nd duelist)

  • Cortezia (Senti/Smoke)

  • Ewok (HC)

  • Strong (AC)

And the champs is yours

#2
Parzelel
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-Jonahp and Jerrwin for Eeiu and either Oxy or Alym would be so peak

#3
hvvjh
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resign zekken if mibr drops him

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111SSC
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think that goes without saying

#4
vhyughy
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Drop reddux and cortez bums

#5
CurryCooker
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great team. But oxy aint getting bought out by sen and c9 aint letting go of him.

#12
TentacleThing
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I mean C9 did let Tenz go so there is a possibility that C9 would sell Oxy, though I don't think Sen is willing to pay that amount of money for anyone but Tenz.

#13
Pengu12
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Tenz wasn’t even playing for c9 at that point, he was just sitting on the bench

#17
TentacleThing
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Yeah, but you have to look at the fact that its C9 and they're roster decisions often don't make sense and if you offer them a lot of money they would probably at least think about it.

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Pengu12
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yh sure but im just saying its not rlly comparable

#6
111SSC
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Oxy aint leaving

#8
kyro1
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if were being honest sentinels is not a place you go if you want to win. after what rob moore did to kaplan and n4rrate unless they are really paying im avoiding them like the plague as a tier 1 player

#9
vhyughy
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Lmao no player gives a fuck about that they know they have high expectations

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Ahnri
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this is hilarious

#14
TentacleThing
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After everything we've seen, Kaplan 100% deserved it. Like it was his decisions that fucked over both Sen and n4rrate during kickoff.

#16
FrenchToast
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the org with 2 trophies and you say this 😭 is this a joke

#18
kyro1
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TenZ was a talent magnet you can win when you get zekken, tenz, and sacy on the same team. in 2027 sentinels are not the team to go to if you want to win honestly had they not been a prominent org early on they would not be getting renewed for partnerships with how horrible the management is.

#20
111SSC
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They lost the man that carried them to trophy 1

80% of the roster that dragged them across the line to trophy 2

and most of that roster was lost due to bad org decisions

#33
DBStudios
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Bro wtf do you mean "and most of that roster was lost due to bad org decisions" lmfao. Sacy and TenZ both RETIRED nothing the org did there that caused that it was a personal decision on both of their parts, Zekken eventually left SEN because he wanted to play with aspas (stated somewhere he turned down a massive salary just to play with him) again another personal choice, and Zellsis left because he wanted to be an IGL ANOTHER PERSONAL CHOICE.

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iceypicks
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Sen are one of the most winning orgs in vct btw

#22
kyro1
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irrelevant stat

#23
iceypicks
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not a place you go if you want to win

Seems pretty damn relevant

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kyro1
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they had a talent magnet early on. how many trophies post tenz?

#21
VFLNMO
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I think people really overreact a bit when it comes to that episode. Sure things could’ve been handled better but eternally praying on the downfall of the team just because they dropped someone (thinking it was the best route to take) is kinda insane. Decisions were made, shit happens, you can argue forever if they were deserved or not

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kyro1
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its not about whether they deserved it or not as a org owner it is your responsibility to not crash out on twitter and act extremely unprofessional. what they did to n4rrate baiting his passion for clicks without his approval throwing kaplan under the bus etc. this is not professional you do not see any other org doing this. that sentinels roster was a long term project but lacked chemistry changes needed to be made that happens all the time but at the first sign of adversity your team is 1-2 and your crashing out on twitter that is detrimental to your players i cant stress that enough. could you imagine if rob moore was the ceo of envy LMFAO.

#26
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Yeah I get all of that and like I said, things could’ve (and should’ve) been handled better, but people need to let it go. Everyone found their path and is (arguably) having some sort of success. Back when C9 dropped Yay for “role issues” and left him stranded for the whole season I didn’t see this overreaction, and lying to the whole world surely isn’t the best thing a CEO can do. I’m not using it as an excuse for SEN nor for Rob, just think it’s time to move on

#28
amedy
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bro one of the main reasons c9 is hated to this day is because of the yay stuff

you can't just say "we need to move on" when roster decisions that fucked your team for the entire year come knocking at your door that isn't how it works 😭

#30
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I’m not arguing about how effective or bad the roster decisions were. That’s a whole different discussion (even tho the M80 really didn’t help Kap’s and Kyu’s case).
I’m just saying it makes no sense to treat the org like some radioactive shit because of the episode. No one does that with C9, and no one should.

#36
amedy
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bro everyone should with cloud9

no winning mentality. same with sentiLULs

#31
VFLNMO
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“avoiding them like the plague as a tier 1 player” like be fr 😭

#11
VFLNMO
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Jerrwin’s problem is jitters/lack of confidence (imo). The mechanics are clearly there, he just needs to work his mental and his composure. I don’t think dropping him (specially for Oxy, who I think is kinda overrated) is the right call. It’s getting harder to stand by JonahP, the experience might be valuable but it means nothing if you can’t frag even the slightest, so I can get on board with the eeiu idea.

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jawn
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oxy isn't available until 2028

#27
nusifer
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strong ac

reduxx entry duelist
eeiu 2nd in initiator
johnqt controller IGL
jonahp support flex
smoke anchor/senti

hot take but I think jonah should be given a chance to play as an actual flex instead of being silo'd into ini role when he looked like a top flex itw on g2

reduxx should be given the opportunity to develop into an actual duelist like he was on oxg before being forced into mini tenz role by cubert/sen... or dropped for another duelist entirely if you don't want jerrwin

#29
soapformen
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cloud9 would firebomb the sen office if they tried to buy out OXY

#34
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where is tenz? I don't see him anywhere?

#35
knifekittyy
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every team fans asking for Oxy😭

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