valyn goat conversation

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Wolfed

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is there an argument for him in top 10 all time? hes one of the better callers and a great player, and has been for a looong time

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Meinoplu

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everyone is goat nowadays

#3

WjFROST

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I think hes the second best IGL to ever touch this game behind Boaster, just needs a trophy to cement that

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fns unironically clears him rn

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Coronos

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Ikr... this recency bias is absolutely idiotic

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WjFROST

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https://www.vlr.gg/459532/g2-esports-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-w3/?game=206978&tab=overview Yeah you right

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twigster001

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how is jawgemo dropping 27 in 14 rounds proof that valyn is a better IGL than FNS

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WjFROST

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if you watched the match you'd see how FNS got outcalled to absolute fuck in both maps, read like a book every round

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twigster001

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is jamppi the greatest IGL ever because he beat boaster yesterday?

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OhDrxw

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dude sent a game of jawg dropping 30 and not valyn doing anything special

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s0pp_fanboy2

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as an IGL yes overall no cause FNS cant aim for shit

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twigster001

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WjFROST was talking about IGLing capabilities, which is why I brought up FNS.
If I wanted to mention an IGL that clears valyn overall, I'd bring up saadhak

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Coronos

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Saadhak is top 2 man, not even close 😂😂

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P100P

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No way, I support G2, But now way he is 2nd best OAT. FNS and Saadhak easily clears him.

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ur such a newgen
better list: https://www.vlr.gg/640296/top-20-igls-of-all-time-v4

Boaster
Saadhak
FNS

valyn isnt even top 10 (cuz he hasnt won a trophy)

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WjFROST

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Stax are 4 LMFAOOO yeah ok good list

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sentinelmain377

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wait hold up i lowk dont know why i put him at 4

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v0lyn lol

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Galactc

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I feel like he has to win a lan to be top 10 but I would say he's a top 5 igl minimum

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with a trophy hes a top 2 igl oat

#7

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In a non ring culture world, yes.

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He's definitely proven himself enough times to be up there. He's a very good caller and is genuinely the best shooter on the team a lot of the time. He needs a trophy though before we start putting him in a real top 10

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Castawaytwizz

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yea an IGL that can shoot is the most valuable player you could think of, just a shame they choke when it matters

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Wolfed

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yeah hes kinda like a worse version of Boo

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KyLZi

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who's a better IGL, Valyn or JohnQT? I think its a tough call

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j0hn

get real

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Wolfed

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i think it's quite easily valyn actually

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Valyn clears

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jawn

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needs to win and him and trent enter the top 10 imo

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he is top 20 for sure, but he needs to win an international.

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Gemiknight

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only thing holding him back is the lack of wins, i think that'll change tho

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Banr

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Hard to say when he hasn't won anything other than ascension once he wins something he can enter some conversations