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6 year 100T opinion.

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Ve1lyn

After watching 100T for over 6 years, since first strike, Ive had two major conclusions.

1) At no iteration of the 100T roster, was there ever a "game anchor". The way I define a game anchor is the players who are able to change the tied of the games single handedly, and consistently. Yes, if pointed out, Cryo 100% is a game anchor, but in my opinion, consistency is also a key requirement. Cryo has the potential, but at the current moment, he is not as consistent. A few years ago, he was also consistent, but the impact was not significant in the bigger picture. By bigger picture I mean, in the entire tournament or bracket.

The reason, the hiko-nitro-steel iteration, or the stellar-derrek iteration, or the boostio-berlin iteration got as far as they did, in my opinion, was more of a team credit than an individual credit, which yes, thats how it should work too, but you still need players who can take control of a game by themselves when it matters most.

The likes of JohnQT, or Cortezia, or Oxy, or Sato, or Ethan, or Brawk, Mada, Skuba, even dgzin and so on. With most of these players, you as a fan, 100% have the confidence that they will bring the game back somehow or someway, and the main reason I am saying this whole point is that confidence. Never have I felt true confidence that the game will be back, it’s been a pleasant surprise or an expected loss. Another way to put it is a scare factor. Unlike other teams, 100T does not have or had scary players.

2) Again, with so many coach and player changes, the way 100Ts game progresses, has somehow not changed at all. Metas changed, and they have kept up with it, but this isnt about the agent pool, or strats, but about individual and team thought process.

Their approach is somehow been the exact same, as first strike w.r.t the game. This wouldn’t be bad, if 100T were a strong team (not talking about results), but that is not the case. They have their runs, they show potential, but each time it’s almost become easy to predict how they’ll fail in the tournament if they don’t succeed, because the way the play is so fundamentally similar, that you know some of these games will just go the way you think they will, no matter the odds.

A dominating game like the one on Breeze against NRG, or a horrible upset, where they lose to a weaker team, or just close misses, each game since 2021, I’ve somehow been able to predict how they will fail game to game, that is if they do end up failing, because even the failure path stays consistent. Idk how this happens, and I don’t think Asuna is the one to blame.

Anyways, I think they have a good team right now, but I think they also need to train Vora or anyone else to also be a massive anchor to the team, performance wise, strats wise, vibe wise, everything. One person is not expected to do it all, neither do I think you need dedicated people for each, but I think because they lack the game definers like JohnQT, or someone else, they need to play the team diff games the way Furia is playing. Furia also doesnt have game definers, that might be cause they are a young team so you cant make the decision, but nonetheless they are playing a fundamentally different game as a team which has lead them to where they are today, and I think 100T needs to do that too.

All of these opinions are my observations from watching them, but I am sharing cause I want to know what you guys think, and just to make it clear: I do not think replacing Asuna will fix the world.

Edit: Just saw that the ex 100T coach saw this post. Very logical of him to read only the first sentence of both points and say that the guy who wrote it is an idiot. 1) Yes, these are views as fans not as people integrable part of the team. 2) You said that my second point was wrong because when you joined "100T was a individual fights team, and then became a full retake team.", and what about it? my point was about the actual results that 100T gets for some games and the way they lose. By becoming a retake team you are not revolutionizing anything imo, the only thing you are doing is switching up strategies. Most teams do that for each season, they get aggressive sometimes, they play more passive and so on. Thats part of the meta, comps, and the coaches in place. My point was that even with all those changes, the results somehow was always predictable, the manner of losses was predictable, the upsets were predictable, the micros of in game decisions also remained the same, along with the bigger picture of the yearly performance. I personally believe its very shallow of you to point faults without reading the whole point.

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WjFROST
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Allat

#3
Ve1lyn
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summarize this yammering chatgpt

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WjFROST
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Summarized and in Fortnite terms

100 Thieves feel like a Fortnite squad that doesn’t have that one player who can consistently clutch a 1v3/1v4 and wipe the lobby — Cryocells can pop off, but not reliably every game.

They’ve also been playing the same way for years, like using the same rotates, same height takes, same endgame decisions — so even if they look strong, you can predict how they’ll lose.

Overall, they’re a solid team, but instead of just swapping someone like Asuna, they either need a true “clutch carry” or to completely change how they approach the game—more like a team that wins through unpredictable, coordinated plays rather than individual pop-offs.

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Ve1lyn
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undersells the point, but accurate enough

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i AM reading allat, i think specifically your take about their game not changing throughout all their iterations is so valid and so frustrating to watch as a 100T fan because when it falls flat once it will flat flat 12 more times and that's the map gone

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thanks for reading gang <3
I personally think 100T need to do a EU/APAC bootcamp, like the MIBR one from champs 2025. MIBR were champs material, and that bootcamp was a genuine change. It made players like artzin, and cortezia.

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```I do not think replacing Asuna will fix the world.```
Opinion immediately discarded

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Ve1lyn
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clearly you haven't watched the games. Even if you replace Asuna with a guy who is 100x of him, 100T will not become champions or even remotely come close to beating teams like FNC and MIBR

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oh ive watched the games. asuna is a pillar of an org failing to move on. they stick with players that clearly dont work
Boostio was the last player who had the drive to win with the org and they shot him dead to chuckle about not getting 13-0d
their previous iteration clears their current 100T will never win anything internationally either way no matter what changes they make

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Ve1lyn
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Drive doesnt mean wins, and we saw that. You need firepower. Which is why I keep bringing up people like JohnQT, Ethan and Valyn, who have the firepower, the drive and the experience knowing what things need to be implemented.

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We did see that? Lol?
They got a world champion IGL and won stage 1, qualified for a masters in god knows how long and then qualified for EWC
drive very much means wins. if you dont have the drive to win and settle for losses, you will never improve no matter how much "practice" you think 100t needs to improve lmfao

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The reason boostio's performance wasnt a big factor on the champs roster was because he was surrounded by the likes of Ethan, Demon1, and Jawg. Are we forgetting that, 100T never had such players with that much of capability. Ethan was another, secondary driver of the team, and now he is a champs winning IGL. Jawg and Demon1 are always brought up in the goat conversations. if you dont have the players, just drive of your IGL will not make you win the world.

And I dont think its improvement. Ive clearly said they need to fundamentally change the way they approach this game, not the players, thats not improvement

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Anyone who think's Boostio on EG wasn't integral to their champions win, in fact thinks that it was a menial factor, is blatantly ragebaiting or watches VCT through vlr stat pages.
I'm glad you've started to watch VCT for the first time, it is not my place to push new viewers away, which you clearly are.

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yeah your whole argument is ragebait. In your language, Boostio "drove" them to the win, while the players like Ethan, Demon1 and Jawg, followed on and performed like beasts. Change the horses, who on 100T can actually take the drive of boostio to a champs win? no one is capable of that, WHICH in turn made, boostio's KD performance a much bigger factor than it was. The reason 100T got so far as they did with him, was purely cause of his calling, drive and game, but you still needed cracked ass players who could actually follow that up with a win. How tf is that me questioning boostio's factor on EG

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"who on 100T can actually take the drive of boostio to a champs win? no one is capable of that"
Exactly. Nuke the roster. Starting with Asuna who's been scamming for the entirety of franchising.

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yeah, great point, when they had the chance to do that, they did not do that. SO NOW, lets talk about the present and future. There is no driver or goated players on the market, most are tier 2 experiments which 100T cant make anytime soon, and the success of those experiments are low. Getting boostio back will not change, because again you need legit, actual goated people on your team and you dont have that in the market. My whole opinion, is based on that fact

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100t is doomed to be mid

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cryo is not a game anchor because he can't play many agents. he really has to expand his agent pool if he wants to bring consistent impact to a team (and practice more)

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Ve1lyn
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Practice hella more. The shift to passive roles is similar to how FNC put alfa on those roles as well, Cryo needs to start changing his gameplay like that too. Itll take time, but the guy is a beast, and I think it will happen soon enough, under the right conditions

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he's been the same player for close to 4 years idk if he has enough time anymore

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Ve1lyn
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it could have been possible with a leader like Valyn, Ethan or JohnQt coming in place of Boostio and not a rookie igl like Vora. But I dont blame, vora or the 100T staff for that.

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cirruss
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u can get better without an igl's presence
the team forever has played around him, they shouldn't be allowing him to do that

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Ve1lyn
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But thats how most teams play? each team has their own variation of success with it. You need people that can actually fill Cryo's shoes for the team to not play around him. Timotino has a long way to go before becoming that

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my point is cryo is not good enough to be a player you can just play around

it's like trying to play around modern day yay. it just doesn't work because he can't play many agents very well

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sorta comes back to my first point right, until your current players change the way they play the game and get to that game defining and anchoring level, there is still going to be a lot of pressure and force on cryo to do things no matter the role

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then i think the solution would be to get a different superstar player, no? cryo hasn't improved since xset

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Ve1lyn
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I said this above in another reply, they had the chance to do that, but they got a rookie duelist and rookie igl and took a massive bet. They have played well enough for anyone to consider it stupid to replace them now, and they do need more time before some drastic decision is made but nonetheless its an experiment.

If they got an IGL in the likes of Ethan or Valyn, and a promising duelist (timo or anyone else), then the results would be different. But they didnt, and replacing people will not change anything any time soon, until a game level shift happens in the way they play and think about the game.

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eeiu carried theives

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Shadow_Monarch
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Cryo was always a good but he was never a set stone anchor or a hard carry dependent type of player.

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great flag

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HeIsTet
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The reason is being is Asuna being on the team, just from voice comms I've seen he's a heavy secondary caller which means the calling will fundamentally stay the same in some ways.

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Ve1lyn
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Thats actually a very good point that I didnt think of. But with so many coaching, player and management changes, it feels really improbable that it just stays the same just cause of that.

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KGad03
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Don't take any offense to this, but it kinda sounds like you've made up your mind about Asuna and are convinced he isn't the issue no matter what. Which tbh I don't think he's the reason they lost yesterday either but you can't simultaneously say

Again, with so many coach and player changes, the way 100T seem to play the game has somehow not changed at all

and then not admit that the one sole voice and leading personality on the team throughout every single iteration of the roster doesn't play a hand in them being this way.

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Ve1lyn
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No I see your point, that makes sense why people think so.

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The 100 Thieves assistant coach search was the potential turning point and they whiffed.

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Ve1lyn
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honestly I thought Nbs and Doombros would actually be a difference, but nvm

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Not your fault. Very difficult to tell the impact of a coach on any team. It's too opaque and everyone who has an opinion is assuming.

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Ve1lyn
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100% agreed on this.

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yeah i agree tbh i feel like playing against 100t there's no one you're scared about. cryo can farm but i dont even think hes like that insane for how much the team has had to compromise for him over the years. timotino is ok, not amazing but not that bad. vora is decent, asuna is decent, bang is good, they're just like a decent team so i agree a change is needed. idk who, but some sort of change

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