My fix for the Sentinel Class (Riot trashed us)

Overall change-
Make Reusable abilities with the Use key or ability key(like the Killjoy Nanos, Vyse Thorns, Cypher Cages) able to be detonated from anywhere on the map regardless of location. And that all sentinel signatures if recalled have a 20s cooldown, while if destroyed they have a 45s cooldown.

1) Killjoy- Simple change of that you get exactly. 0.5s from the moment you enter the circle to shoot the bot, or it detonates and insta vulnerables and slows you for like 2s. Makes it harder to ignore Especially for a running neon who needs it destroyed or their real catalysis is gone
2) Cypher-Make it so that the trips will have the fade reveal(like it slowly reveals you over like 0.5s for consistency with other sentis in the changes i make{riot likes consistency after all}), and the tether is instant the moment your hitbox at any point hits the trip line. The other changes remain the same with the damage not getting dealt until 1s
3) Vyse-Give her back the info Flash for boolean info, and make the flash blind for 2s(idk the original duration but lets assume 2s for the sake of it), and change the deployment method of the vyse shear to match viper's wall. (If you ask what i mean, you know how you can aim the wall using the targeting, same way) dont change its length, just make the max original length the default, or change it to be longer as required. And that it can go through walls. Other parts the same. Increase cost to 300 credits to be fair
4) Sage-Make the wall placable in a similar mechanism to the Astral form or Omen form or the AR tablet of the other controllers. Basically make it remote placable with the alt using reload(same mechanism as the Omen switch from alternate to real view), to place it like the old way. Make it within a 20m radius only. Change the heal to get 2 charges instead, extra charge costs 100 credits, able to heal anywhere in a 40m radius(the sound circle) regardless of Line of sight
5) Deadlock-Change sonic sensor to detect movement. The faster you move the faster it detonates with the stun effect. Reduce volume by half to make it fair, make it placable on any surface. Deadlock wall remains same
6) Chamber- Increase rendevous size to 24m to give him more space. Make the chamber trip a throwable ability, no range limits, and the moment it detects anyone it darts in 0.5s and hinders(same as waylay effect) the darted player for 2s, and leaves behind the same area as before
7) Veto-Increase chokehold radius to 7.5m, make it indestructible once it locks onto a player in 0.5s, increase the range of crosscut to 32m. Rework interceptor to work on a fuel meter, with full fuel powering it for 10s. The 0-100 time is 60s(like other fuel abilities). And the cooldown time between activations and deactivations, is 5s(same as viper orb and wall)

Please actually read. And tell your opinions

. Bump cuz opinions are necessary

I can't lie, sentinels need a buff but I'm not sure making them too powerful is the move. KJ alarmbot also giving slow would be pretty broken. Especially in ranked, probably a bit moreso than pro play.
Cypher and Vyse changes seem fine, Vyse is gonna get picked a lot it seems as a Neon counter anyway but I really would like her to have the flash info back.
The Sage buffs seem pretty big.
Deadlock rework seems interesting. I don't hate it at all.
For Chamber you're making his trip kind of like Veto's? I think his kit is honestly fine as is, and if you're going to buff his range I don't think he needs to much more.
I don't hate the Veto TP change, the fuel interceptor thing is very interesting. What if it gets broken? I think his trip is fine honestly, and he's one of the more picked sentinels rn, so I don't think he needs too much changing.

Overall, I think you're looking at this from a pro play POV too much. Sage is gonna picked so much in ranked if this happens. And in general, I don't like the zero sentinel meta but I'd rather have it than a double sentinel meta if you know what I mean.

just give chamber 2 trips back so he feels more playable on some maps in ranked please 🙏

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Like these changes a lot, recently felt like the only senti you see in ranked is chamber, and since he has some play in pro play as well, I don‘t think he needs a buff other than the extra radius on his TP. Other than that I really like the ideas.

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Make Reusable abilities with the Use key or ability key(like the Killjoy Nanos, Vyse Thorns, Cypher Cages) able to be detonated from anywhere on the map regardless of location. And that all sentinel signatures if recalled have a 20s cooldown, while if destroyed they have a 45s cooldown.

uhh bro? this is already true. the only change is the 45 i think

Cypher-Make it so that the trips will have the fade reveal(like it slowly reveals you over like 0.5s for consistency with other sentis in the changes i make{riot likes consistency after all}), and the tether is instant the moment your hitbox at any point hits the trip line. The other changes remain the same with the damage not getting dealt until 1s

fym fade reveal? this kinda js sounds like the current one except its not when it stuns

Killjoy- Simple change of that you get exactly. 0.5s from the moment you enter the circle to shoot the bot, or it detonates and insta vulnerables and slows you for like 2s. Makes it harder to ignore Especially for a running neon who needs it destroyed or their real catalysis is gone

cool, whatever, not a very big change ngl

Vyse-Give her back the info Flash for boolean info, and make the flash blind for 2s(idk the original duration but lets assume 2s for the sake of it), and change the deployment method of the vyse shear to match viper's wall. (If you ask what i mean, you know how you can aim the wall using the targeting, same way) dont change its length, just make the max original length the default, or change it to be longer as required. And that it can go through walls. Other parts the same. Increase cost to 300 credits to be fair

horrible change. downright dogshit icl. the flash info is fine, the other… not so much. that change would really suck icl. viper wall might be the most annoying util to place icl, fuck that. vyse walls are used on chokes anyways, it doesnt need to be viper walled for it to do its purpose well. plus you lose the aspect of being able to place it somewhere like the end of a choke without going to it. id be fine if it was a sage wall place but a viper wall? fuh nah

sage is insanely op no if you really wanted range for the abilities make an iPad for heal and wall and the heal can go through walls or something

Why'd i have to read halfway down the list for you to suggest something that wasn't already in the game

flash change is duh ofc and kj drone pop faster is probably fine, the rest of this is... ehhh... Chamber is in a good spot he's just supposed to be niche.

Veto interceptor needs a buff on attack side probably just place through walls like Leer or smth but that's about it otherwise he's fine. Cypher is hard to balance atp. Deadlock needs net cooldown reverted and maybe alt placement on sound sensor round walls.

Sage needs cooldown of slow and heal fused like reyna, you can fit it into lore too. This way she gets more util value through the round without losing heal sig.

rest of this is... ehhh...

Could you explain. I (and it may be irritating but ill reiterate), tried to give each sentinel a unique way of using their same trap, different ways to isolate or pin down the entry player, and also delay the enemy or actively force respect from the enemy team.
Sure some changes may seem questionable
My vyse wall change i can understand. Reason i took it this way is that it allows you to place unique trips that can cover lanes others cant. Now you can for example, place a trip that could block the B elbow players on Bind the moment they attempt a retake by isolating the first one. Free pick.

Chamber is in a good spot he's just supposed to be niche.

I feel like the way people treat chamber like a duelist is kinda overrated. I feel like chamber should be a better defender than a duelist to be in the sentinel class. Hence why i gave the tweaks to range, allows him more positions and deeper sightlines if you can get setup. Kinda like a yoru, except you dont cosmic tp between 2 edges on opposite planes Instantly which is less broken.
But of course you cant have an agent who's sole role on offense is lurking(though people would say viper, but viper is a controller who can use her wall and orb to smoke off angles for the team, just, not as effective as the lurking one). So the chamber trip throwable gives him a unique place with veto, being the only agents who can aggressively lock down taken space in a default. Like you could run on lotus a 2-1-2 spread(sure not in soloq but its possible), with the chamber or veto for that matter clearing B main with their tp as an escape option. And then you claim C main but want to end A after creating noise for rotates. Before C is open, now, you can invest a chamber trip or veto chokehold, throwing it, (either lineup or just wing it through the doors), to secure C, let your teammatea leave easy, and know when the flank comes far earlier.
That was my intent because the placable trip didn't fit as well with how sentinels on attack have almost no value. So giving at least 1 that isnt just situational and can always score value is good.

Veto interceptor needs a buff on attack side probably just place through walls like Leer or smth but that's about it otherwise he's fine

One of the design principles i Followed here. Minimum 1 ability should have attack side use. And for Me, that was chokehold. Like i did with the chamber discussion these throwable trips occupy a role that a fade seize or waylay saturate may do. But they dont detonate until enemy is present. It is why I could compromise over the interceptor. If 1 ability has the power to take aggressive space or support a take of aggressive space, then thats good enough for the sentinel.
Interceptor through walls isnt as broken as it sounds, but it may need a second buff of having more Health(like 2 bullets instead of 1 in inactive state) cuz it will get instant shot due to 40m sound cue

Deadlock needs net cooldown reverted and maybe alt placement on sound sensor round walls.

Wdym around walls for the trips?
The net cooldown was fine tbh, maybe they should've kept barrier mesh as signature cuz it had most stopping power where net was most combo potential. But i wouldn't mind

Sage needs cooldown of slow and heal fused like reyna, you can fit it into lore too. This way she gets more util value through the round without losing heal sig.

As for the sage heal slow concept. I would change it like this so that you can use reload, to switch the mode you use, and give it like 3 charges. Reload switches between healing orb that you can throw to teammates using main fire and to self with alt fire. And the slow orb that you throw.
It combined with the wall change i made could be cool because it shows in lore how these crystals invading her body give her better control over them, but the more she takes control of them, the more they control her back

Honestly im happy for the feedback

(Edit: fuck this was meant to be a reply to the top message #30)

-KJ just make her turret back to her old coverage 180 degrees
-Cypher just revert the old trip
-Vyse flash info back
-Sage idk, maybe longer wall duration
-Deadlock keep the stun to sound detection because i think they dont want to make her the conventional Sentinel, but activation 0.1s so it insta stops dashes
-Chamber is in good spot
-Veto the fuel idea for interceptor is goated ngl

I don't think Chamber needs a change at all, he's already got a high pickrate in ranked. Teams in pro play just aren't utilizing him enough and that's entirely their fault. They're over here trying to make Veto work when Chamber is right there.

Just revert cypher trip changes

I don't know why riot hasn't even thought of just bringing back the champs paris meta