G2 2-0

MIBR 2-1

https://www.vlr.gg/event/pickem/2501/vct-2025-americas-stage-2
what yall think of my pickem?????

prx aside cryo could pick up something’s role well as jett/yoru. he even played sova a shit ton.

roles could end up something like
Cryo yoru
jinggg raze
eeiu fade
boostio astra
zander viper

or for icebox:
cryo jett
jinggg omen
eeiu sova
boostio kj
zander viper

I think the only other teams that are in contention are LOUD, SEN, and OPTC/ENVY, and I would say PRX clears them overall.

Toronto just doesn't have that much people, so the venues are naturally smaller.
Toronto has like 5 million. Bangkok has 10 million, Paris has 10+ million.
For our relative population compared to the other countries I'd say Canada did decent as a host country.

played brim for gambit for a bit

Threads moving so fast no one is gonna see this
I might genuinely feel attracted to certain male people

i thought tl signed penny as part of a six-man?

what are roles gonna be?

chiwa sentinel
starxo duelist
purp0 flex
sh1n initiator/smokes
cyvoph smokes/flex

?

Got his ass

HE HEARD YOU

Also saw leo at Canada's Wonderland
source: FNS

Derke (Duelist)
Derrek (initiator)
D4v41 (Flex)
Demon1 (Sentinel)
dos9 (Controller)

damn you gonna do me like that hades :(

from europe?

The results so far:

1. Icebox (+8 votes, every other comment was negative) (I really don't know what that means)

Now, who is the second greatest VCT Player of all time? Single most upvoted comment gets selected.

Here's the link to the first thread for reference: https://www.vlr.gg/494908/vlr-picks-the-greatest-of-all-time-1

The single comment with the most votes shall be proclaimed number 1, and I'll do number 2 later, then number 3, etc.
Who is the greatest VCT player of all time?

seasons is so good

i acc really like these, it's gonna be hard to find anything for brimstone because of fracture/bind being out but this is probably the best combo for the new map pool

The catch is this: Every agent has to be included at least once.

Here's my attempt:

Ascent: Astra - Vyse - Waylay - KAY/O - Sova
Fracture: Brimstone - Chamber - Raze - Breach - Tejo
Haven: Omen - Cypher - Iso - Yoru - Sova
Icebox: Viper - Killjoy - Reyna - Harbor - Sova
Lotus: Omen - Deadlock - Neon - Clove - Fade
Pearl: Astra - Killjoy - Jett - Phoenix - Fade
Split: Omen - Sage - Raze - Skye - Gekko

Thoughts? Can anyone come up with something better?

I get that they needed to make a move but I really feel like koala was not substantially one of the worst players. he was relatively consistent with his fragging and was not being set up like he was used to on M80.

I understand that Hiro/Ruxic have potential and Shao/Ange1 are vet experience but it still kinda sucks.

keep in mind this is just statistically, i think proxh is a lot better than the stats say

Is that confirmed or just a rumor? I think hed be a good replacement for ata

He gets a 92.
Aim - 91
Clutch - 71
Support - 56
Fragging - 106
Entry - 109
Consistency - 83

fr?? that's probably the best ComeBack replacement they could've hoped for

thank you <3

Not into the ratings no. I'm not sure how to adjust that and still make it fair... what were you thinking?

Nah i think his ratings are based off of a scaled VLR rating

Do love that guy tho his designs are cool

He had really good entry stats, which the Duelist role in my formula weighs pretty high.

Also, who would you say is better? Even by VLR rating Best is the best by quite a bit (1.10), Slaughter and Yigox are both at 1.06. (By this rating system they're at 81 and 80, respectively).

He had a rating of 82

He wasn't in the original dataset due to <500 rounds, I manually added his stats and it turns out to be a rating of 80.

ara has a rating of 83, which is 26th out of the players in my dataset and 13th amongst Duelists

He definitely has been looking really nice on GX and I daresay the competition in the Spanish leagues is a bit harder than, say, NorthEast (no offense)

These were just by the statistics, Sayo had an overall more dominant performance than comeback, but qualitatively I'd agree that comeback is better

according to vlr he has only 122 rounds, I guess it doesn't count Liga Radiante as it's not part of Challengers?

just tryna share my passion :/

There is a formula, it's calculated from VLR stats (K/D, KAST%, APR, etc), and then normalizing and condensing them into 6 attributes: Aim, Clutch, Support, Fragging, Entry, and Consistency, all on a scale of 100. Then, depending on their role, each attribute is weighed differently to get an overall rating out of 100 (for example Duelists might weigh Entry more, and Controllers might weigh Support more).

As an example, ComeBack's ratings are:
Aim - 84 (weighed at 20%)
Clutch - 70 (weighed at 10%)
Support - 58 (5%)
Fragging - 105 (30%)
Entry - 99 (20%)
Consistency - 98 (15%)

Which comes to an overall rating of 91.

I used the VLR stats page of the Challengers League in the Europe region, with minimum 500 rounds played (and opponent rating of 1400) being a requirement, so it's possible that some players were overlooked.

Here are the top T2 EMEA prospects, with my custom rating system:

1. HGE Serial (Spain) | 92 (Now on TL)
2. DVM Sayonara (France) | 92 (Signed to VIT)
3. BCF Comeback (Turkey) | 91 (Now on M8)
4. BCF Lar0k (Turkey) | 88
5. BONK Chaza (NorthEast) | 88
6. BCF Loita (Turkey) | 88
7. FB Best (Turkey) | 86
8. DET WanZeru (NorthEast) | 86
9. RBT Chadi (Spain) | 86
10. MDR CyvOph (France) | 86 (Now on VIT)
11. VLT Veqaj (France) | 86 (Now on M8)
12. ATN KovaQ (Germany) | 85
13. TL.AC GSR (NorthEast) | 85
14. BAR krejz (Spain) | 85
15. PXL Krizz (NorthEast) | 85

Here are the top five by each role:

Duelist:

1. Comeback (92)
2. Best (86)
3. WanZeru (86)
4. Chadi (86)
5. Veqaj (86)

Controller:

1. Loita (88)
2. GN Czester (82)
3. FLK starkk (82)
4. MKF baddyG (81)
5. MKF MONSTEERR (81)

Initiator:

1. Lar0k (88)
2. CyvOph (86)
3. GSR (85)
4. FLK Fragger (85)
5. UCAM Flickless (84)

Sentinel:

1. Serial (92)
2. Sayonara (92)
3. Chaza (88)
4. KovaQ (85)
5. Krizz (85)

And the top five by each region:

France:

1. Sayonara (92)
2. CyvOph (86)
3. Veqaj (86)
4. MSA hAwksinho (84)
5. VLT Jady (83)

Spain:

1. Serial (92)
2. Chadi (86)
3. Fragger (85)
4. Flickless (84)
5. FLK jannyXD (83)

Germany:

1. KovaQ (85)
2. FKS xuss (84)
3. CGN Wolfen (82)
4. CGN DaviH (80)
5. FKS Mistic (79)

NorthEast:

1. Chaza (88)
2. WanZeru (86)
3. GSR (85)
4. Krizz (85)
5. BFG Razziss (85)

Turkey:

1. ComeBack (91)
2. Lar0k (88)
3. Loita (86)
4. Best (86)
5. EF Izzy (82)

Thoughts? Do these top players accurately represent the T2 talent pool in EMEA? Have I missed anyone?
Let me know if you have any additional questions about how the rating system works.

Yeah as a Canadian I'm quite disappointed to hear about this, I thought we were better than the Americans but I guess not in this aspect...

would it be better to look at all of emea across stage 1/2?

Here are performance ratings from the recent EMEA Challengers League #2 tournament, based on my custom rating system.

1. BCF Comeback (Duelist) - 96
2. CGN Wolfen (Sentinel) - 94
3. ULF audaz (Controller)- 90
4. UCAM Chadi (Duelist) - 89
5. KCBS Sevire (Initiator) - 88
6. MKF Olizera (Sentinel) - 85
7. FKS xuss (Duelist) - 84
8. EP Kiles (Sentinel) - 83
9. UCAM Thander (Sentinel) - 82
10. EP doma (Initiator) - 82

Thoughts? Are any of these players standouts for you guys?

This is so cool cloudberry just wanted to say

why he so inconsistent with his fragging tho like he went 2 and 14 after going 24/10

Final rankings:

1. aspas
2. zekken
3. trent
4. Jemkin
5. kaajak
6. Rarga
7. f0rsaken
8. JAWGEMO
9. t3xture
10. RieNs

Thoughts? What would you change?

Data is from a strawpoll with 66 people voting.

1. FNC (avg: 3.652)
2. G2 (avg: 3.727)
3. TH (avg: 4.833)
4. GENG (avg: 5.439)
5. RRQ (avg: 5.924)
6. SEN (avg: 6.152)
7. PRX (avg: 6.636)
8. MIBR (avg: 7.121)
9. TL (avg: 7.288)
10. XLG (avg: 7.712)
11. BLG (avg: 9.136)
12. WOL (avg: 10.288)

Thoughts? The teams from 5-10 are quite clustered (RRQ, SEN, PRX, MIBR, TL, XLG), as middle-of-the-pack teams. G2 and FNC are clearly 1 and 2 in some order, and BLG and WOL are clearly 11 and 12 in that order.

Current rankings:

1. zekken
2. aspas
3. Jemkin
4. Rarga
5. kaajak
6. trent
7. t3xture
8. f0rsaken
9. Karon
10. JAWGEMO

help refine the list then, maybe it was just SEN fanboys

thank you smmm

1. zekken
2. aspas
3. Jemkin
4. RieNs
5. f0rsaken
6. Rarga
7. t3xture
8. kaajak
9. Karon
10. nAts

This was only from 10 votes, if you want to vote then use this link: https://strawpoll.com/PbZqbE6EKyN

https://strawpoll.com/PbZqbE6EKyN

There's 20 players but it might not be the most representative top 20, so I'm only going to tally the top 10 at the end.