SEN shouldve gotten TenZ

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Why tf are they picking up people from t2. We saw what happened with ky0 and red0xx. people just using "jitters" and "nerves" as an excuse like just say your players are bad bro. jerrwin aint gonna be any different, he will have the craziest fall off

literally everyone imaginable that looked "insane" in t2 became ass. comeback when he got on m8, boom bro fell off. koalanoob for navi, boom bro fell off. kess for 100t, boom bro fell off

like you cant make this shit up. tenz wouldve been so much better for comms, experience, and playstyle overall. ggs sen are bombing out

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Allat just to justify selling fent

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NOT ME BRUDDA ITS @Hades_Loves_Rb

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tagging hades for this shit now

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:(

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Nongshim just won ascension and won Santiago
Kaajak was in tier two before dominating last year
Brawk, skuba, and mada were in tier two the year before they won champs
Cortezia was in tier two before last year

I don’t like this argument, fent guy

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Nongshim: already had t1 experience last year, and they werent that good. they needed a whole year to adjust + be more comfortable

kaajak: still crumbles under pressure, that NRG came was so concerning seeing him miss so much op shots + emea is free. n4rrate could also farm in emea first time being in t1 and became ass in a better region (NA)

brawk, skuba, and mada: fair enough on mada, i cant argue against that as he def showed himself. skuba seemed like MAYBE an above average player, not sure what the spark on him is. brawk also wasnt that good in stage 1, like i said previously for NS, he needed an extra stage to warm up

cortezia: same with brawk, he wasnt that good in kickoff when h was labeled as "the one tap demon".

i want to make it clear im not shitting on anyone, im literally just saying that one player wouldve been a better option than the other. jerrwin of course has been good in t2 but like ive been saying, i dont see him being able to perform that greatly until MAYBE stage 2 and by then it would be too dangerous / risky
TLDR: SEN signing jerrwin is a major gamble that is too risky. most people that were from t2 and became good needed a few months to warm up. if jerrwin underperforms, SEN wont be able to make it to playoffs as they have a tough group

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I think sen will be good actually because im pure of heart

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cameran

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same here i want them to be good but i dont see it happening

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Of course, signing Jerwinn is a gamble, for the past 3 seasons, your team has been ran by the fans and not by their coach. Their CEO is one of said fans.

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true

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someone has to have the coldest takes on this website i guess.

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And people can’t sneer that my tale os the truth :(

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To be fair, it was Tenz and riots' issue with not playing other sponsored games. If Tenz said he ain't coming back till this is resolved, you can't just not have a team with stage 1 so close.

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yea true

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Least anxious Sentinels fan, let the team play at least a few matches before judging.

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ok

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Tier 2 is literally the future of Valorant. There is so much untapped talent in Tier 2.

More and more orgs are realizing this with orgs signing with teams and winning Ascension. Names like ENVY, Nongshim, BBL (BBL Pacific) all picked up rosters from Premier and won Ascension.

And to note above, many notable players came from Tier 2 and won tournaments. Brawk, Mada, Skuba Kajaak, wayne, seven, and so many more.

Pure rage bait 💀

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cameran

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how is this bait..

brawk, mada only warmed up by stage 2. both were mid in stage 1 imo. takes time to adjust

all people that became good were pretty bad originally. jerrwin will need to wait until stage 2 to have a chance to warm up imo

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mada was in worst form in stage 2 and champs lmao

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oh well my point is proven even better there. champ winners but couldnt find his form. thanks for making my argument even easier :3

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the best emea team in 2024 made back to back finals with rookies btw

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Good on them for that, but that's because they weren't seemed to be a team that would have major success. Most players they picked up weren't that hyped up so they didn't have any pressure

As compared to people like I mentioned in my post: comeback (i got shit on for saying m8 with comeback would still go 0-5 in groups last year because of overexpecting m0 fans, and boom they did, and comeback was their worst player lol)

Problem with jerrwin is he's exactly like comeback too, but even worse. If he underperforms, everyone will shit on him. It's insane pressure to deal with

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The real issue with sentinels is they lost the best player they've ever had (zellsis)

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agreed!

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Common cameraman W. I miss you my goat Tenz

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yessir

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Most obvious cameran bait and somehow there are still people falling for it

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What bait

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Tenz refused sen so he can spend time in the casino after the divorce

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cameran

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W tenz

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dumbahh thinks that sen can force tenz to be on their shit ass rebuild

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ok

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this could genuinely turn out to be a good take but it gets discredited by the general vlr population because of who the take is said by

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cameran

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thank you bro. vlr is so bipolar man i need to go on alts and make these hot takes work

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I agree with you bro, vlr is so bipolar

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frick everyone here :(

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MIBR zekken ^-^

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WE dont want zekken. Bro left to play smokes and fell off harder than Dephh

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what if... and i know this is going to blow your mind... what if it wasn't SEN's decision on picking up TenZ?

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Okie

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hi cameraman18

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Hey :3

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whos jerrwin

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cameran

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some t2 guy going to SEN ovet tenz

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bruh we serious

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cameran

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Yea lmaooo

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It wasn't Sen's fault that Riot won't bend their rules regardin sponsoring of non-Riot games. These are big bag deals ofc Tenz will have a hard time to let em go. Much more money than a Vct t1 contract can offer.
Sen tried their best to get Tenz as evident by Rob Moore's headloss statements on X but how much longer could they let team's prac time to get fucked over this saga? We are already behind the meta and totally shit. A new coach, new systems and players.
Jerrwin isn't that terrible of a player, ofc he aint Tenz and most likely Tenz comes back next year. Till then if you can’t support Sen atleast don’t create unnecessary pressure/hate on the rookie who is gonna try his hardest to prove himself.

Judging from your history all of this is most likely bait but ppl are actually out for Jerrwin's head & he hasn't even fired a single bullet in the server yet.

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cameran

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This isnt bait but fair enough

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You are an idiot.

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How

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0 ball knowledge detected

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negative ball knowledge, even

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:(

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talking about tier 2 players who fell off because they genuinely couldn't make it in the big leagues

koalanoob

xD lmaooooo

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yea dude was so overhyped and was so bad

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...did you watch kickoff twin?

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yes. He was bad on navi. He only became good after a year later

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exactly. which is proof that with him it actually was just nerves and adjusting to the big stage and he actually was a good player beneath that. which means that the other players you're criticizing could be the same

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Yeah but jerrwin just started t1 too. hes gonna be bad at the start. Thats the point of my post and the replies ive been making. Its too risky of a gamble if he doesnt get comfortable

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And you expect to sustain an esports scene without new players?

It's like saying "actual pro players have to play until they are 50".

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Yes.

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oh yeah EVERY player man.. meanwhile kaajak, neon, sato, mada, lukxo, timotino, riens, woot, xeus, hyunmin, freeing, patmen, xross and many more players who came from tier 2 literally look insane

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Kaajak: still crumbles under pressure. also emea is free. n4rrates first time in EMEA he could farm then when he went back to NA he became ass

neon: off season merchant bro look at his games vs c9 and sen. anyone can perform good in off season (kekw c0rtezi0)

sato: fair enough on him
lukxo: was pretty mid idk what this is for
timo: also isnt that good. only had a life game against SEN, hes an average duelist
patmen: he isnt that good either lol. hes a good clutcher sure but he didnt even perform that well. also crunbles under pressure like kaajak too

cant cover everyone since no one cares and ill be flooding this thread but still. Most people needed time before being good. Jerrwinn will be the same

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I just came to this cameran post to downfrag all his comments. Upfrag this one if you agree

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?????

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just me who thinks tenz wouldve been extremely washed? also the only agent he can play in this meta is omen since kayo is dead

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would be better than jerrwin tho

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True
At the end of the day I don't have a personal stake in sen so I don't care if they win or lose. All I want is entertainment and tenz would have been more entertaining than jerrwin

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Agreed

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Go watch tenz streams then cuh

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There is a difference between watching pro games and ranked games

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everyone swore SEN would win Bangkok because johnqt was popping off in ranked buddy

if you think thats a stupid reference or example, there you go for yourself as well

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Each their own tbh I js goon to jerrwin so I prefer him

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fair