am i toxic?

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estonianhagi
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i told my viper that they were incompetent and should stop playing the game
abit of backstory. I am on jett(sorry mistaked agent) and we are on breeze, we win pistol round and i buy an outlaw. I go to peek mid doors on mid and viper is on the OPPOSITE site and as the round begins they put their wall up. waylay double dashed on me and i die(within a second).

https://imgur.com/a/uBoQL5j

#2
MrBlooBloom
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i'm afraid you forgot the important part of the story

#23
estonianhagi
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what poart

#25
MrBlooBloom
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the part where viper is at fault somewhere
also post a proper screenshot cuz I've no idea where you're viper even is at the moment you get killed

#33
estonianhagi
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lurking in mid on the opposite site, the green one

#36
MrBlooBloom
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well yeah you just need to tell her not to wall up, that's on you

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poggpigg
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did you comm that u wanted to peek mid with a sniper?

#7
estonianhagi
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this is low immortal theres no way i should be comming that

#8
ARix145
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Are we deadass?

#10
estonianhagi
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im dead ass

#42
delighted
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bru

#45
LowGun
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Yeah you ain't immo.

#60
I_LOVE_LESS
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everyone knows as soon as you hit immortal 1 you gain telepathy powers. you dont have to comm because everyone can read your mind. the viper was clearly an ascendant player because he didnt have the powers

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poggpigg
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son 💔😭

#12
poiuu20
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if you dont comm shit you aint getting shit when dis game is about 1/4 comm

#14
estonianhagi
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welcome to valorant ig

#21
RealBallKnower
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Viper should know that Jett bought an outlaw and ready to peek mid since the beginning of the round. Do you think nAts will wall up if he were the viper? its a game sense, sometimes you dont even need to comms to know what you should do and should not do

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poggpigg
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acting like a guy in ranked has max awareness and knows everything that their teammates want to do, thats why comming exists

telling the guy "dont wall up im peeking mid" is the most basic shit oat

nAts wouldn't wall up cuz miniboo would've told him in the pre-round to not do it

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RealBallKnower
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I do have awareness thats why im so shocked that everyones jumping OP's ass. You don't expect a team to comms anything when you can just press tab and see they are using ops or outlaw.

#32
serot
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ok but maybe he just didn't check tab and lacks awareness like the average ranked player...

"don't smoke, I have OP" is a comm people learn to do in plat because ranked is chaotic and uncoordinated

#41
RealBallKnower
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That could be true but if you are lack of awareness you wouldnt be up here in immortal.

#46
satellite_kov
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immortal is a fraudulent rank like half the players in immo dont deserve to be there

#50
serot
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low immortal isn't that good bro
plenty of braindead fools who just crutch on their mechanics and have only bare minimum gamesense have climbed up there

they also have massive egos like this guy, can't be blamed for their own decisions either
"I died to waylay double dash so it must be entirely viper's fault even though I have a chamber TP"

#52
satellite_kov
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hes playing jett but same thing applies

#31
jixk
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he could've been fucking around on A and b hopping and hugged doors barrier last second regardless majority blame is on jett for all viper knows no one could've been holding mid and giving them full comfort in mid to do whatever they want is bad lowk

#4
WjFROST
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TLDR, skill issue

#5
egann
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you could just told them nicely

#6
ARix145
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You decided how that viper plays based on 1 mistake if they kept repeating then you might be right

#11
uwukitten
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raging from round 2 😭 why do people like you even queue the game? actual question. you really should just uninstall and look for a new hobby because there's no way you enjoy this

#13
estonianhagi
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theres no way ur blaming me

#16
serot
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raging over 1 mistake is your fault bro
just politely ask for a fix and then move on
zero mental resilience

#18
estonianhagi
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i mean its a pretty bad mistake

#26
serot
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  • didn't comm
  • playing chamber so you can TP out for free
  • 1-2 rounds lost at most from this mistake, move on, game is still winnable
#35
jixk
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completely your bad btw viper did nothing wrong here

  • didnt comm
  • flaming on round 2 uninstall the game if you are that mad 2 rounds in genuinely find a new hobby
#15
sevenluvr
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Viper told You to not lurk

I was the waylay

#17
estonianhagi
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aspas gameplay you were baiter

#19
RealBallKnower
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It is Viper's fault. Because most of the times the op or outlaw people never comms shit and expect controller to read their mind whether they want smoke or not. but seriously if you as a Viper saw Jett tryna peek with outlaw why are you even wall up?

#20
estonianhagi
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exactly what im saying, theyre on the OPPOSITE SITE bro theres 0 chance you should be walling up mid at ALL

#24
satellite_kov
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this is insanely RealBallKnower of you i couldnt think of a more typical take

#28
RealBallKnower
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Its literally a logical take. Think of it as a viper's pov, you need to know where your teammates are, what guns are they used, what are they most likely trying to do from that position. you literally just said "dont expect anything from a rank teammate" so why do you expect teammate to call that he's op/outlaw and about to peek when you can just press tab and see?

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satellite_kov
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i expect him to comm because im assuming our hero is trying (i mean why else would he be complaining) and if ur tryharding then you should be prerounding and telling ur tm8s how to support you. whereas with the viper we dont know whats going on. he could have max volume music not caring whatsoever in ehich case theres no way hes not gonna autopilot what he does everyround unless you specifically ask him not to

#22
satellite_kov
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this is ur fault ur flaming over 1 mistake made on round 2 ur mental is dogshit
+dont expect anything from a ranked tm8 unless you comm it idc if ur immo

#29
AJ_btw
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As a terrible iron player who has been told numerous times that I should stop playing the game, I think it’s a crummy thing to say. Of course, when folks say this, there’s not really anything to do but roll your eyes and go next, but that doesn’t mean it’s not toxic.

The idea that a video game, which 99% of people are playing solely for entertainment, ought only to be played by experts who never make any mistakes at all is just silly. It also ignores the fact that if people continue playing, they might actually learn from their mistakes and improve over time. Obviously no one is going to get any better at Valorant by never playing again.

#37
estonianhagi
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but i have to ask how they are in low immo high asc if they cant see that...

#39
AJ_btw
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Well, the question you asked initially was if you are toxic, and if you are telling your teammates they are incompetent and should just stop playing, then I would say yes, you are being toxic.

As for the separate issue of why they didn’t know your weapon and location before raising a wall despite being in a high rank, I don’t know. Maybe they got to asc/immo by being cracked mechanically but are lacking in game sense. Maybe they weren’t paying full attention to the situation throughout the whole map for whatever reason. Maybe they just hit the wrong key, who knows?

I guess the point is that when your teammate screws something up in the second round, instead of immediately raging and saying they’re incompetent and should uninstall, the better way to handle it would be to explain what happened and ask them to check the minimap next time before using utility. Also, while you might argue a high-rank player “should” be aware of the entire game state at all times, it’s never a bad idea to explicitly communicate your intentions and how you want your teammates to support you. If you’re going to say something, “hey, I had an outlaw mid but your wall blocked my sight line and I got killed instantly, please check the minimap next time before raising the wall” is so much more productive than “hey, you’re incompetent, please stop playing.”

#51
satellite_kov
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absolutely spitting
this is why we dont need rank flairs people can have good opinions despite rank

#54
estonianhagi
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you know what man i think the problem is im expecting more from people who can only provide less

#38
LeBaum
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Yep.

#40
x3malx3
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yes you are toxic. why would you get that emotional and talk to another human like that for dying in a video game. what could be attributed to ignorance, should not be attributed to malice.

#43
L1mtlessV
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Yes but who cares? Next start calling them slurs

#44
MachiDesu
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I gotta ask, do you enjoy the game? Bc a round 2 tilt is crazy work

#56
estonianhagi
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i mean i wouldve killed about 9 if the wall wasnt up

#47
SudokuDude
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just like real life, you need to communicate.

#48
Katharize
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Yes

#49
LowGun
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Yeah you're toxic asf mate.
Getting people like you who whine and ruin the mood from round 2 makes the game insufferable to play sometimes.

#55
estonianhagi
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im not evil

#57
LowGun
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No no you're just toxic

#58
estonianhagi
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i dont see my self as toxic to be real to you. i wish i could show you the vod man i feel like sometimes the truth is very hard but its the truth and i had to tell viper the truth

#53
TentacleThing
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Considering that mako was putting his mid orb up despite his teammate having an op in mid in a pro game shows how wrong you are. Like if you don't comm it the viper is going to put up her smokes because for the most part it is beneficial to every other player that isn't using a scoped weapon mid.

#59
cloudberry
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Yes, kalayavan, you are toxic. I don't need to read anything else to know that

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