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#1
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To be considered one of the best players of the year you need to place top 4 in at least 2 internationals

2021: Nats, Chronicle
2022: Yay
2023: Alfa, Aspas, Demon1 (If you wanna include Jinggg you can, sure Leo as well while we are at it)
2024: This is the exception but to fit the narrative id go T3xture, Zekken
2025: Kaajak, Forsaken

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Disastered
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i guess but why arent u including players who have done that multiple times

#3
MrHyphon
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2024 is Aspas, thats why hes the exception.

I don't think any of these players besides him have been the best player itw twice

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no but u have the place top 4 argument twice which isn't aspas in 2024, its actually chron in 2023, and chron alfa, 2025.

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MrHyphon
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Chronicle was NOT the best player in 2023 NOR 2025

Alfa had a mediocre champs but a great toronto

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yea so im going off by your logic not that logic

#47
quantum_
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thats gonna change this year with Demon1

cant believe id see the day where he comes back, but he did

hes gonna place top 4 in Champs as long as he gets picked up no doubt, idk about masters london tho (def not playing in Santiago)

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I would include Leo in 2023. He was the best player on that FNATIC roster imo

#5
g2gcHATER
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L00

#10
MrHyphon
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included

#6
I_LOVE_LESS
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Less snubbed twice

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MrHyphon
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Are we really REALLY saying that Less was on the same level as Yay in 2022?

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I_LOVE_LESS
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he was better

#11
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...

#12
I_LOVE_LESS
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people always call the player with the flashiest plays and numbers the best instead of the ones with the highest impact

#17
chinesesalesmen
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yay was all 3 😂

#19
VFLNMO
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I might be tripping but didn't Yay have the highest ACS or something during that whole year? I think it was during a Masters, only falling short to Tenz's Iceland record

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glittering_yard
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https://x.com/lessvlr/status/1573444151362064385/photo/1

#25
MrHyphon
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Kiles>Yay

#27
glittering_yard
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true, Kiles owned b0tnicle in a Champs finals

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https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf/?game=95134&tab=overview

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y0y

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/926/valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k

#24
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no Champions

Less was 16/17 years old

#26
MrHyphon
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oh fr? how many champs has he won since then since age directly correlates to champs won

#29
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y0y

Less World Champion of Valorant

#30
I_LOVE_LESS
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how many series has y0y won since then LMFAO

#32
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ONE HUNDRED!!!!!

#28
foythvlr
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flexing mickey mouse masters, getting diffed by d4v41 and ardiis, and statpadding vs "xset" "boom" and "team líquid" (npc orgs) LMFAOOOOOO

#31
MrHyphon
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yea and what was less's rating in copenhagen

#33
I_LOVE_LESS
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what was yay's in lockin? or champions 2023? or masters madrid?

#34
MrHyphon
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Yay haters when they can't argue against 2022 Yay:

#35
I_LOVE_LESS
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i already did, he got hard diffed by Less in a chamber mirror in the most important game of his life

#36
MrHyphon
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Less best tournament in 2022> Yay’s worst tournament in 2022

#38
foythvlr
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flexing a tournament that y0y lost getting chamber diffed by ardiis and d4v41😭😭😭🙏🙏

#40
MrHyphon
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Talking like Loud didn’t Matchfix in that tournament in question LMFAOOO

#41
foythvlr
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they did and won the next one chad move

#8
VFLNMO
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when? 2022 and 2023?

#13
uwukitten
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there's a better argument for boostio being top 4 in Tokyo than demon1

demon1's Tokyo is so overrated

#15
MrHyphon
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no like his team had to have placed in the top 4

Demon1 Champs was goated

#14
prope1
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2024 you could make a strong argument for the heretics players, especially riens or woot

#39
Wolfed
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Alfajer 2025? he was ahead of forsaken twice…

#44
Yistyy
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2024 was such a weak era fr

#45
MrHyphon
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Probably the weakest tbh

#49
WhzyGlazer420
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kk is the best player of 2024 NO DOUBT

#50
MrHyphon
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debatably not even the best player on his team and his team only placed in the top 4 at champs

#51
I_LOVE_LESS
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alright im one of the biggest chichoo fans ever but you gotta be on something to say kk wasnt the best player on his team in 2024

#53
MrHyphon
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ehh it depends on what you value from your team, Kang Kang carried grand finals but Chichoo had incredible impact to get them there

#52
quantum_
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i agree with everything except 2024 and 2021

in 2021 it was nats chronicle and Tenz (ik sen fell off after iceland but he was just too insane in iceland to not be counted as one of the best players in the world that year)

and in 2024 it was zekken tenz and aspas and if you want a fourth then include t3xture

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