Than some vct games or t2.
Its pretty simple , t2 takes place while the vct season is going on , people are already streaming vct games and thus even the streamers don't watch t2 , people are watching too much vct already however gc happens in the offseason when a lot of people are vct starved and haven't watched much in long time plus even famous streamers watchparty GC this easily giving it higher viewership
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riot changed the schedule this year so t2 games mostly happen on days where t1 is on break people are just being hypocritical by complaining and then not watching themselves
its been a step in the right direction
i think tbh they should try and give tier 2 more exposure on the broadcasts, kind of like how sports tv channels do
for example after a tier 1 match there can be a 'next up' segment with all of the tier 2 games in the region (alongside which channels they'll be on and when)
since i imagine the average casual vct watcher doesn't really load up vlr.gg to see if tier 2 games are on
Honestly not a bad idea, but the tier 1 games would need to be moved to earlier in the day so that the tier 2 games don't wrap up at midnight and I'm not sure if riot would do that.
Tbh they could even use it to showcase which tier two games are going on the next day if rescheduling is unrealistic
As #74 pointed out it’d require a tiny bit of coordination between riot and T2 TO’s but surely that’s possible
This would probably help a lot.
I've been on this point for a while but Riot needs actually invest money into Tier 2. Very few sports ever survive without an invested tier 2. If the orgs can't make money in tier 2 the orgs wont play. Example: TSM, Ascend, Apek.
Yeah this could work well I honestly think the rest is more up to t2 organisers than riot
yeah but its still mid season when either its happening on like riot regional event offdays or some break after an international or regional event, but its still close enough to the vct matches for people to not get starved but i am not syaing this is only reason why it gets more viewership
T2 has no promotion as well
GC is heavily promoted by riot, other pros, and content creators
T2. Competition as more viewer ship overall now gc have some team that have big community that the diff. Now. Saying gc is promoted is a lie many ppl still don't know it exists as for t2. I don't think its a war between who should be promoted but more like. Promoting both more
GC is HEAVILY promoted bro, this isn't a lie. You can literally open up valorant esports' official twitter and see like 5 billion twitter promotions for it. If you scroll down to VCT ascension all they promote is the grand finals. GC championship regional qualification games got more hype on twitter from their account than all 4 ascension tournaments COMBINED. Challengers promotion overall is delegated to regional sub-accounts, while GC gets a piggyback off the MAIN valorant esports account which has a WAY WIDER audience reach. And this is just twitter ALONE.
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No people are just genuinely interested in GC. The things you mentioned probably help boost viewership a bit but even then a lot of people would still watch it
i am 100% sure almost every single person that is interested in vct knows more tier 2 player names then gc player names
I’m sure there are many people, mainly women and enbies probably, that care and know more about GC than they do about tier 2 and maybe even tier 1
Deff not a lot off gc team. Have community. Thank to brother club (g2 kc heroic mibr kru liquid )
That make ppl interested. I followed both league throughout the year. I know more bout gc
i mean yeah definitely and that interest is built by famous people streaming GC
its the gc wc ofc its gonna pull more views than some auraless vct matchups like c9 vs eg or some tier 2 games
not really the quality of games are not that great
but some games are banger cuz most teams are rage peeking each other
Ascension americas had a perma yoru double duelist every map gimmick team through the entire year winning it all i will never take "quality" as a serious argument
comps legit don't matter in GC anyway SRG could legit play Clove + 4 duelist every map and they would still win 99% of their matches cos the competition is ass lol
just saying double duelist with Yoru being the most flexible agent in the game is very strong so no wonder good teams are spamming it
yeah and running it all year every map and no one countering it says a lot about the "competition" lol
Just dumb on purpose lmao
Yoru had a higher pick rate at champs than Americas ascension
Sorry but Envy is just built different, the exception is not the rule. Sounds like you didn't watch ascension at all if you really think that; every other team in ascension were running proper comps and tactics, in fact, TSM were almost always beating Envy because of their disciplined play, they just couldn't convert properly in playoffs.
I tried watching some of the quarterfinals matches of GC and the difference in the quality of play is night and day with not even half the personality that team like Envy have. That's just simply the truth.
i watched every match of ascension. it was a shitshow. envy played ass and won. what you call "personality" is people not punishing them because they are bad. they will be a joke on T1 if they play the same way as every player who played like them have before. and saying GC does not have quality to defend T2 is hilarious because T2 is also terrible. at least GC is actually fun to watch. and GC has a lot of excuses to not being good (Gender issues, Lack of good practice opportunities, etc) T2 is just bad because they want to
what you call "personality" is people not punishing them because they are bad
What I call personality is being charismatic, having fun while playing, making jokes in comms, good team chemistry, making people wanting to watch and cheer for the team.
it was a shitshow. envy played ass and won.
They played to their strengths and capitalized by outgunning their opponents with superior aiming, gunplay and agent mastery. It's no coincidence that tier 1 teams have all shared stories of hating playing against Envy is scrims because of their playstyle. Don't talk like you know shit about what proper gameplay is.
and saying GC does not have quality to defend T2 is hilarious because T2 is also terrible
False equivalence. GC never in a thousand years will compete with tier 1 valorant in any shape or form. Tier 2 already has the strength to beat tier 1 teams on ocassion, with most players being poached from tier 2. Hell, the world champions came from tier 2.
at least GC is actually fun to watch
That's just your biased opinion. What is not an opinion but a fact is that the quality of GC matches is subpar. And watching bad Valorant is not fun.
GC has a lot of excuses to not being good (Gender issues, Lack of good practice opportunities, etc)
Who cares about their excuses? If you're just not good then improve and prove that you're worth watching.
T2 is just bad because they want to
Again, you're just saying this with no subtance or reasoning behind it.
LMAOOOOOOOO all that to defend THIS gameplay and say its good and T1 level you are not serious
https://youtu.be/fsQUDlAqEKM?t=14080
Ah of course, the VLR classic of not responding to the arguments given.
Yes, that was a great round are you deficent in the head?
Let me explain the round you sent so your bronze brain can understand.
Firstly, Seven gets a pick on Ion and TPs out so he can play retake with man advantage + Yoru ult. Then waits for alvin to rotate and bomb tap to use the Yoru ult and get info on both players.
Inspire recognizes this and pushes the smoke, timing it with the Yoru ult, to get a 1v1 on Alvinboy and equalizes the player numbers on both sides.
Seven sees that his teammate died and knows Canezerra is alone, if he can get this kill it's an easy 1v2 with Timotino flanking. He sees Cane pulling out the smoke and tries to go for the kill but Cane was able to react swiftly and gets the kill on seven.
Inspire had a flank trip which spotted Timotino earlier so they know he's coming from long or hookah. Timotino has no clue where neither of them as they could've repositioned so he tries to makes the best play and dashes into the site smoke Cane put earlier, hoping to isolate a 1v1, but unfortunately for him the smoke faded too quickly and got killed.
That was an example round of great fundamentals and game sense from both teams, if you cannot see that then don't type to me ever again.
Yes NV in the macro is not a great team but their micro and gunplay carries them to be better than the bottom half of VCT GCC happens at the perfect time when most Valorant players and viewers have nothing to watch , BUT by virtue this does not make GC a good product by comp level with a very few teams even qualifying for T2 circuit
VCT GCC happens at the perfect time when most Valorant players and viewers have nothing to watch
Ascension happened after T1 season ended
BUT by virtue this does not make GC a good product by comp level with a very few teams even qualifying for T2 circuit
So? GC is still way more interesting by definition. It is worse then T2 but if you went by quality alone you wouldn't see T2 because its shit either way
Blud envy and tsm will 26-0 any gc team in history. GC is horseshit if t2 is 'bad'
I enjoy the GCC product for its entertainment value more than t2 is that illegal? I enjoy t2 for macro when its there , GCC is more about personality and micro comparatively
you cant tell me they have better protocols than NS , DRG , or mind you Boom. I only mentioned teams their similar to obvs compsring them to teams that are competiting for tournament wins seems asinine.
You're comparing a teams that have played only in tier 2 and ascension to teams that have already played more than a full year in VCT tier 1, those teams have already forged such discipline and tactics through playing against other tier 1 teams.
But Envy as I said, is a special case because their playstyle is too different.
But to answer you question, I do think a team like TSM have comparable strats, of course, I'm talking about the TSM before all their players and coach got poached.
Excuse the comment I read NV and saw red lmao TSM is actually a comparable VCL team to G2 sen or other more methodical VCT teams I dont disagree NV might at best compete with c9 to become the new barrier to qualifying to events
someone could (purely hypothetically) win a game in gc with 4 duels and a cypher
The only actual good team to make it out of any t2 circuit is The Guard change my mind
I won't change your mind cause you are right. Every other T2 team was dogshit most of the time (at least on the west, havent seen APAC and China but they seem to be doing alright there)
Yes , NS and Boom but that for every 1 of them we get 3 or 4 bleed or apeks situations
Wait so if you agree with the main point and strong man it you get downvoted so strongman , ragebait , and just be a douche to get downvotes heard.
I disagree it gets less viewership than vct emea even tho its better than memea
GCC is likely getting bad viewership because its at the ass crack of dawn or even earlier for any human west of iceland
- GC happens in offseason (That alone boosts numbers) and its 500k ?
- brother, Tier 2 is streaming on a platform called SOOP is limited scale. What viewership are we even talking about? u expect numbers from a broadcast that even Google cant find 💀
does not change the fact that they don't care about Tier 2, how the viewers growing when the developer don't even care
gc has rewards for watching it thus why a lot of watchparties and also there are in game pickems and way better promotion and also has a lot of popular orgs participating
theres just way more stuff going on for GC rather than tier 2
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