vlr lets be honest

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if you're an org starting from scratch, can take any player in their prime (or even just today, 2025) to start as your building piece, from scratch to carry to the goal of champs

chronicle is not top 10 lol

nats
tenz
aspas
meteor
leo
sacy
texture
alfajer
mako
kaajak
verno
riens
forsaken (imagine chronicle but the leader of his team and the most clutch since forever)

then you get into players whose impact in their prime will easily elevate your team higher
boaster
fns
saadhak

then you got star players that with teams built around them are much better than teams built around chronicle
yay
demon1
k0ngk0ng
derke

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Luceus

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"and add a pinch of ragebait"

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gamergirl

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who impacts winning more, riens on heretics or chronicle on fnatic

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Mingu

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Demon1 mentioned RAHHHHH <3

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ethan should undoubtably be on this list btw

but yes i agree

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no ethan is insane

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gamergirl

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i mean i could name 10 more players, just the first ones to come to mind in terms of value to winning

if we're being honest keznit matters to his team way more in his career than chronicle does to his lol

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"goat" never was the best player on his team </3

i resect his success and he for sure is in the conversation but its 1. aspas 2.ethan 3.chron for sure in my eyes

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the chron hate is unamtched

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mako being on the list twice is a nice touch

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gamergirl

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there is no war in ba sing se

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shaq_attaqr

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now i'm gonna look schizophrenic

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5 hyunmin strategy is just win 50-50 and win the game

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7 finals 3 trophies 10 events, 1mvp ......I will let you decide...Gambit was a superteam but all 3 players failed big after...Only Nats kept his consistency....So can we say Chron and Nats were the key to Gambit?......surely

You are looking only at the stats I think ....... But I see chron as the guy to take any job just for the sake of team...sure he has some moments where he plays bad...but bro been doing what he does for 5 years straight......show me one player being at top longer than him, Derke and Boaster)

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read my post, just tell me who is chronicle impacting winning more than

before you reply with something dishonest, chronicles team needed him to step up in 2022,2024, and 2025 and he didn't

sheydos and nats were better in 2022 where they only played regionally

chronicle has been able to do what he's done for so long because he spent the last 3 years with the best organization in the sport, and they are the best org with or without chronicle

do you know how I know that, if fnatic can replace derke, they can easily replace chron, arguably the only thing that can't be replaced is boaster

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lowkey if you did a fantasy draft with all 40 vct teams chron might fall to the 2nd round