are they one of the greatest teams of all time?
i mean it is but they'd definitely be among the greatest if they win champs this year
highlighting their only bad points to fit ur narrative haha, 2nd place 2024 champs 2nd place shanghai
and where is gx placements last year, huh? and this year too? (if we not count this champs) gx are also didn't make toronto and bangkok as well
3 international finals with a trophy, even discounting ewc, puts them in that category yes
especially considering they didn’t change their roster
EG 1 Champs win, 2 grand finals appearances vs TH 1 Champs win (if they win), 6 grand final (VCT) appearances, make it make sense
probably bait but eh whatever
Actually now that I think about this with this logic they're better than some others too I'm just responding to bait
Wait so what does that have to say for PRX fnc optic and loud? Also if you're including regionals then what do.you have to say about geng 2024? Or maybe they don't count because they bombed out of champs???
I mean regionals are still something
Because they act as a tiebreaker, like EG has 1 Champs, and if TH has 1 Champs how do you figure out who's better, it's either other internationals or the finals they've made (TH beats EG in international final appearances too in this case)
Also I'm pretty sure this would put them above PRX cause Champs > Masters and it's in the same year
But this is obviously if they win and idek if they will, the playoff is stacked
1 champs + Back to back champs finals is an insane feat, they'd be at least top 5
The only reason i’ve ever disliked this team was because their floor is ridiculously low for no reason
sometimes they just show up and play like ass and i’m like wtf bruh
the shit talk in question is calling aspas overrated and that is it. They are getting hate from the same fans who harrass alfajer for calling himself paris final boss
Aspas is the Faker of Valorant
He’s humble even when he plays like dogshit and he had never talked shit about anyone else
In fact Faker has talked more smack than Aspas ever did
He also has a loving wife
Shartretics dogpile on him for no reason, don’t act shocked that they get dogpiled back
oops I completely forgot about Sen. Case for #4 alongside Loud. My top 5 (assuming TH wins) would look like
What would your top 3 be?
Guessing 2023 fnatic, 2022-2023 loud and then heretics? (if they win champs)
unbiased i would say that would put them atleast in the conversation but the thing is with heretics that they cant handle pressure. if they are the favorites going into a tournament they dont play rlly good but if u dont expect anything from them they always perform. so even if they win champs if i compare that to the greatest teams in other games lets say like t1 in lol or vitality in cs they can handle the pressure being one of the favorites. thats what would be missing for me personally.