how would a man from nigeria who's family has been wealthy for centuries know the struggles of an african american man who's ancestors were sold into slavery.. they can both face racism but only one can face the generations of issues that has been caused by slavery.. (not to say nigeria doesnt face the effects of colonization, its just different)
obv idc, im just telling you, if you wanna get real, facing racism or being dark skinned or even african doesnt make the n word justified
african americans developed their own culture away from africans due to their oppression, the usage of that word became apart of reclaiming it from people in power
wait wait now you're losing me, are you saying only africans in america faced slavery and systematic racism while africans that live in africa haven't had 'generations of issues' because of colonization? wtf
Belgians were out here cutting hands of congolese people and you're saying mainland africans can't relate to the struggles of african americans? You know right the hard r slur wasn't just used in America? It was used on africans wherever they were taken. Just because african-americans slangified it doesn't mean other black africans can't relate to their struggles and have no right to use the word. If anything african americans now get to live in a first world country while mainland africans have to face the consequences of colonization every frickin day, downplaying their struggles has to be the stupidest thing I've read all week.
mainland africans were not bought and sold
i said slavery not forced labor and i told you that they feel the effects of colonialism but only around 200-300 million of the 1.2 billion africans alive today were sold as property globally, not just among the americas
dont try to educate me if you dont understand the history, my people were sold to europeans by africans, then bought and sold like cattle for generations.. that did not happen in the congo under belgium, completely different attrocities were commited there, obviously you dont understand the nuance, take this as a lesson or keep arguing if your ego needs you to
that did not happen in the congo under belgium
yeah man getting your arms cut off for missing your daily rubber quota is definitely not bad enough. Who tf are you to even judge what's worse?
sold to europeans by africans
Of course there's always a few bad apples in every group that try to suck up to the oppressors to avoid the same fate as others. Are you saying that whoever that didn't get taken on the boats were all in bed with the colonizers and sold others? Because if no one was left in Africa to be exploited then who was doing the slave work in Africa. I'm sure the guy who didn't get thrown on the boat because there were people needed to do slave work in Africa too would appreciate you for attaching him in the same breath as those who were selling slaves.
you're not understanding that its a word tied to slavery not oppresion, and im sorry that you cant accept that
forced labor camps existed around the world, spanish, french, british, dutch, belgians and oppressed not only africans but asians too
trans-atlantic slavery is different, again your ego is disgusting and honestly don't know why you feel the need to argue instead of learn
Agreed with everything except the 'United States' part. The hard r slur was used on african slaves wherever colonizers took them, not just America. African-americans were only the first to turn it into a slang for solidarity, doesn't mean other africans can't use it because they all share the same history of slavery and colonization, just in different countries.
of the 1.2 billion africans alive today only a fourth of that (maybe less) are descendents of slaves anywhere, being enslaved in asia, africa, europe, or the americas
im mixed and my great grandmother was a slave in brazil, im letting u know bro like if a black dude from africa called me the n word or any other slur used for slaves in the americas, i'd take it offensively too lmfao
people in general should just stop saying it instead of trying to decide who can and cant say it, its silly
DUDE NO WAY YOU'RE CREATING A HIERARCHY OF RACISM AND DOWNPLAYING WHAT MAINLAND AFRICANS HAVE FACED AND ARE FACING EVERY FUCKING DAY. Like do you think the africans that weren't taken to another continent were just spared and told 'Go live your life free' ? They had their hands cut if they didn't collect enough natural rubber, there were famines, epidemic diseases and mass killings.
I don't wanna compare extent of racism but while you're getting to enjoy the privilege of watching and discussing esports today, there's a person in Africa who's having to fight for minimal necessities, there's a kid mining lithium, there's kids collecting cocoa all because of the everlasting damage and poverty caused by centuries of colonization. Your great grandma sure had it hard during her life but so did the grandmas of current day africans. There's no need for a comparison let alone the need for superiority.
i didnt create a hiearchy, i just dont think you understand that south and south east asians were in the same kind of labor camps that the congolese were in, but they werent bought and sold like cattle based on skin color
its not better or worse its just different, you dont want to accept what im saying, history will tell you im right, you can get as many upvotes as you want..
slavery is extremely different than anything you're discussing lol, please accept that, and accept that only a fifth of africans alive today descend from slavery lol, its embarassing that i have to explain to someone that the dutch east indies existed, french vietnam existed, etc etc but none of those are the same thing as what happened in the trans-atlantic slave trade
and unlike slavery from the romans and muslims it was entirely race based, quite literally the n word means different things to someone who descends from slavery, and there are words that portuguese slave owners used that are completley unique to my peoples history..
stop replying, its pathetic lol
IDC about the n word anymore. I'm just offended on behalf of other africans that are having their own history of struggles being downplayed by you
slavery is extremely different than anything you're discussing lol
none of those are the same thing as what happened in the trans-atlantic slave trade
Deliberate amputations, engineered famines, slave labor etc. don't become less significant just because the person facing it didn't get taken to another country, they still got treated as slaves be it in their own country.
south and south east asians were in the same kind of labor camps that the congolese were in, but they werent bought and sold like cattle based on skin color
"So what they got their hands cut off for not working hard enough, they didn't get sold for their skin color though"
You're more obsessed about the idea of racism than the extent of those atrocities itself.
nobody downplayed it
answer in one word, yes or no,
are forced labor camps like the belgian congo, dutch east indies, british raj, french indochina, japanese korea, and others, are these the same as black people owned by SLAVE MASTERS. Not countries, but individuals. If the answer is no, then you are retarded and spent an hour downplaying the effects of slavery.
my people were owned by individuals, we were stripped of nationalities, cultures, and other things, so we were forced to find our own ( the n word ) THIS DIDNT HAPPEN IN THE CONGO BRO WHAT DONT U UNDERSTAND LMFAO ITS NOT WORSE OR BETTER ITS JUST DIFFERENT!!!
you are actually braindead!