its not even close btw
seider: .83 rating, .81 k.d. team had a 2-2 record
patitek: N/A rating, 1.12 k/d. team has a 6-2 record
different era and im honestly taking patitek now over tenz then especially with how far val has evolved. (unless we are talking strickly mechanics in which I am taking tenz)
tenz is the best support player in Americas by far in addition to fragging out, recency bias at its finest
tenz "then" LMAO. bc I think pati would have more impact in a game right now, than tenz would right no
yeah no shit because that was 4 years ago, it was a different game
patitek gets dominated in 2020/21 by tenz
"Best sub ever" means you're talking about valorant's whole history so yes 2020/2021 included.
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tenz won 2 different times with 2 different rosters
you’re crazy. he’s proven to be flexible and has firepower 
I think you misunderstood when I meant sub lmao. I meant sub for one tournament event/game
2021 valorant was a game of pure mechanics im taking tenz anyday, sen didnt even have a coach
Obviously? In todays game you take pati bc he has more impact on support than tenz would have on duelis
pati's been good this tourney but doesn't tenz have better mechanics and a much higher celing?
it's not like madrid was that long ago lol
they r prolly referencing all time while u r referencing 2024
tenz was supposed to be a sub for sinatraa when he first joined sen
Tenz the best sub still fs it’s a matter of what they accomplish and how they do it. Pati is a close second especially if they win but that MVP + was the first player to just run through a international
idk about tenz cause he played 23 series before an international with sentinels and you could say he was the sub in masters na but that was so old and an NA tournament so idk if id count it
wait did Tenz was on for that long before hand I deadass didn’t remember that.
Bro was not a sub they literally had prep going into the tourney
yeah 23 series and calling him a sub is crazy, 23 series is more than a whole vct season now
People can argue Tenz or Zellsis which Ig it's fair but I think it's different situations, both players are actually signings that stayed with the team after and made the team better. Patitek is FA as of Monday and he's been a tier 2 player
If u think paTiTek isn’t gonna be on the main roster by next stage ur tripping I’d be more worried for miniboo but wouldn’t count out a 6 man roster as well but if TH let him slide then I’d be surprised
CGRS CLEARS
(not cope trust)
!cove will always be one of the most iconic moments in PRX history(and maybe Val)
the only way som whiffed that was cause CGRS ran straight at him, otherwise som would've had the kill
and doesn't matter how it happened for it to be iconic
Why tenz is sub at 2021?, wasnt he dropped by c9 and sen sign him over sinatra for 2021 iceland?
Patitek already meshed with the team, due to him playing with them at an international stage before (masters madrid, etc) sure they got second place but lets not recency bias here.
CGRS, a PUBG streamer/former CS pro made all the way to 3rd place in masters tokyo. Mind you this was peak EG and peak FNATIC. He had no time to mesh with the team, a very aggressive W Gaming mindset team, and he still got his moments in the spotlight.
In terms of sheer impressiveness and the stakes of that masters, I would put CGRS' impressive performance over Patiteks, even though patitek showed more numbers and statistics this masters.
he was a sub there as well though no? and you could argue he performed better from an individual standpoint at madrid than cgrs at tokyo