Older “washed” IGLS

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doritos_arefire

We have gotten to the point where even the IGL of a team needs to at least decently good mechanically, and some of the older IGLS who are old by age or have just been IGLing a very very long time just aren’t as good anymore. They need to stop being players and become coaches. Players like ANGE1, koldamenta, BONECOLD?, m1xwell, rhyme?, JessieVash, Benkai, Stax?, mazin just don’t have the mechanical skill anymore but definitely still have the brains to be a coach in valorant.

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babi

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stax definitely does

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ReformedCristanchox

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how 23 is old

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babi

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not old, I meant he has the mechanical skill imo

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CoCloudy

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bro stax is still a baby what

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doritos_arefire

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It’s not all about age, it’s also about not having the mechanical skill anymore while still having the brains

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CoCloudy

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he absolutely still has the mechanical skills its just the team as a whole are having a mental breakdown rn
he used to be considered a fragging igl

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theogblazen

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tbf he was never really considered a “fragging” igl. He wasnt IGLing when he was fragging his performance dropped when he started

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CoCloudy

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He was igling in champs 2022 and they got 3rd place while he did great imo frag wise

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SilentCypher

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He was. His fragging has never been a problem. It's the mental that Termi has blowed onto him that's dragging him down.

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IusedToBeAgirl

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angel is fine he just trolls but koldamenta for sure

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theogblazen

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im tired of people protecting this guy like he isnt cooking up the worst comps in the pro scene rn and on top of this is the only person holding that NAVI team back. He wants to be Saadhak so bad with these weird ass comps he trys to make metas and thinks they will work yet no one sits him down and tells him to stick to ongoing meta that shit hes cooking is ass. If this team didnt have so many comp problems they would be so good, him continusly playing Brim on Lotus should speak for itself. Stop making excuses for him, his ass should be on the chopping block if they get grouped

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CoCloudy

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stay mad ange1 clears your igl

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theogblazen

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unfortunately FNS cooks ANGE1 then rolls him up and smokes him in a pack nt tho

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Yistyy

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But the problem is nobody has been proven enough to replace them.

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doritos_arefire

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new igls like kiNgg have proven that you can be good mechanically and still IGL

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randomperson

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but kinggs igling is questionable

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doritos_arefire

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none the less he still made LCQ finals, koldamenta definitely couldn’t do that

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The_Cleg

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ok but lev is a better team and the core stciked together for longer

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koromast

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ok, remove kingg and add melser then or boostio

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zidmz

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kingg does igl but its a question whether he can igl well

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you can't just slap on the title of igl and be comparable to the others in the scene. if that was the case, scream would be the best igl in the world.

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brobeans

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that's like every t1 igl lol

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sianeinus

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bro said m1xwell igl

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Rodu

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I think stax is still a fine player he just seems to struggle IGLing while playing, its like the IGL scream situation

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Nachtel

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what about FNS

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Waking_W

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I guess since he is getting results he is good to go

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worsetbh

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i agree that a lot of these players should move to a more coachable role, stax shouldnt really be there tho
some igls calling is just so good that it genuinely doesnt matter how bad mechanically they are, like boaster and more specifically fns and yeah they prob wouldnt win as much but i feel like people think boaster is bad and hes getting carried but if you actually watch fnatic games you see how well he sets them up for success, and thats even more true in fns

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melon_fan

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drx just needs a mental coach lol

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MeloSquids

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you just described steel in 4 sentences

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zombzino

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Jessievash is still good mechanically bruh

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LouBag

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Boostio is the IGL we all need

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TheAqif

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obviously marved igl is BEST

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TM06Nick

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DRX just needs to stop doing this dogass 6 man roster and Stax will get right

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JJfriends

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steel ngl

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garbage_man

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Watch him say that Scream is a good igl because he has great mechanical skills

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GreyDaze

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Boaster is one igl who was considered "bad" mechanically who has seemed to have a resurgence and has been able to hold his own in gunfights. I think it's all about confidence. Being surrounded by those 4 raid bosses surely boosted his confidence and he has become the player with the highest clutch% in entire vct this season

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hfmdzj314

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Like Ange1 is fine mechanically but hes a poor IGL these days. Honestly the only one in that list thats is bad is Koldamenta, man can barely string together 100 acs per map and his calling is Ascendant level.

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NoOne_ButMe

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Well.....
People like like shahzam who has the aim and some brain can easily be good

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Simon_Digger

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I always say this but, BEING AN IGL AND A COACH AREN'T THE SAME THING

Coaches are responsible for cooking strats mainly, while IGLs are responsible for where and when to use them, mid rounding, and how to play the "FPS" aspect of the game. Way different skillset (like consider FNS, bro can be a decent coach, sure, but his MID ROUNDING just can't be reciprocated if he is a coach)

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StutterSt3p

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Can Benkai even be considered washed? The only reason he's not getting playing time on PRX is that their whole roster is cracked asf. Like you put Benkai on literally any team that's not ass, and he probably puts up good numbers. He was always one of the best IGL's mechanically and I really doubt his aim had dropped off that much.