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Tier2 EU vs Na

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BananaBread

Who would win, tier 2 EU teams eg(case, mouz, wave) or tier 2 NA eg (t1, akrew, 100t, tsm acad)

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sueYA
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why is this even a question

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BananaBread
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sueYA [#2]

why is this even a question

Trying to find people with an iq below room temp

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unknown_trash
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is tier 2 EU all the teams in the VRL? and what counts as tier 2 in NA because i would say that 100T isn't quite tier 2 NA according to my standards.

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unknown_trash [#4]

is tier 2 EU all the teams in the VRL? and what counts as tier 2 in NA because i would say that 100T isn't quite tier 2 NA according to my standards.

Tier 2 NA is the academy teams lmao

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BananaBread
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unknown_trash [#4]

is tier 2 EU all the teams in the VRL? and what counts as tier 2 in NA because i would say that 100T isn't quite tier 2 NA according to my standards.

Losing to tsm=tier2

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Mortadelo
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unknown_trash [#4]

is tier 2 EU all the teams in the VRL? and what counts as tier 2 in NA because i would say that 100T isn't quite tier 2 NA according to my standards.

I guess if you consider all teams in EMEA Vct tier 1, then all NA teams in vct have to be considered tier 1 too

If not what do we consider tier 1, playoffs? Is Acend tier 2

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unknown_trash
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BananaBread [#6]

Losing to tsm=tier2

fair point, but does that mean LG is tier 2?

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Mortadelo [#7]

I guess if you consider all teams in EMEA Vct tier 1, then all NA teams in vct have to be considered tier 1 too

If not what do we consider tier 1, playoffs? Is Acend tier 2

i thought that tier 1 EU and NA were all the teams in the group stages.

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sueYA
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BananaBread [#3]

Trying to find people with an iq below room temp

alr gl mate

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Mortadelo
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unknown_trash [#9]

i thought that tier 1 EU and NA were all the teams in the group stages.

That’s what I thought too

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sueYA
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unknown_trash [#9]

i thought that tier 1 EU and NA were all the teams in the group stages.

there are many t1 level teams that didnt make it to groups from both regions

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juno_VLR
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if he puts tsm acad as tier 2, does that mean he considers tsm tier 1? 😂
the acad>main joke is long dead, so much roster turnover and result difference since.

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Marcock99
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imo top t2 EU teams are better than NA t1 team

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ConsistentCycles
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i see T1 as the teams that made it to playoffs in NA while nrg 100t eg rise are all T2 imo. in that case i think the tier 2 NA teams will win against the VRL teams. but if you count teams that made groups in EMEA like navi and ldn utd they would beat T2 NA

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unknown_trash [#9]

i thought that tier 1 EU and NA were all the teams in the group stages.

its kinda hard to say that when 100t were invited to groups and they sucked

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ConsistentCycles [#15]

i see T1 as the teams that made it to playoffs in NA while nrg 100t eg rise are all T2 imo. in that case i think the tier 2 NA teams will win against the VRL teams. but if you count teams that made groups in EMEA like navi and ldn utd they would beat T2 NA

navi and ldn utd would beat knights, lg, sentinels, xset, mb even v1.

I STILL THINK OPTIC IS BETTER THAN V1

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Stlasher
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na

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Salehxd
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There is no way ur saying Case, mouz and wave are t2. You really have no clue about the EU scene

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Gamer1234
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Salehxd [#19]

There is no way ur saying Case, mouz and wave are t2. You really have no clue about the EU scene

Would you say that they are tier 1???

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Omega_lul
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unknown_trash [#8]

fair point, but does that mean LG is tier 2?

LG beat V1 they’re redeemed

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Marcock99 [#14]

imo top t2 EU teams are better than NA t1 team

thats why no on\e cares about your opinion

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sheahhhh
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seankuku [#17]

navi and ldn utd would beat knights, lg, sentinels, xset, mb even v1.

I STILL THINK OPTIC IS BETTER THAN V1

thats a joke

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Gamer1234 [#20]

Would you say that they are tier 1???

They are literally T3

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moonstar
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Sentinels

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sasuke777lover
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Flerose [#5]

Tier 2 NA is the academy teams lmao

@bananabread: Trying to find people with an iq below room temp
u found the first one already.

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fadezis
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Mortadelo [#7]

I guess if you consider all teams in EMEA Vct tier 1, then all NA teams in vct have to be considered tier 1 too

If not what do we consider tier 1, playoffs? Is Acend tier 2

Teams in playoffs tier 1
Teams in groups tier1.5
Teams that out from groups to EMEA promotion tier 2(2 teams with 0-5)

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Mortadelo
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Salehxd [#24]

They are literally T3

Who is tier 2 then?

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Marcock99 [#14]

imo top t2 EU teams are better than NA t1 team

I would love to see alliance, mouz or tundra vs tsm

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hekzy
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sheahhhh [#22]

thats why no on\e cares about your opinion

ratio

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hekzy
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Mortadelo [#28]

Who is tier 2 then?

LDN utd, XL, Tenstar, SMB, BBL, BIG, Vit, Alliance, BDS, SectorOne

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BONKAR_BEST_IGL
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Bonkar Yoru god owns Tier 2 NA

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andrewdamf
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hekzy [#31]

LDN utd, XL, Tenstar, SMB, BBL, BIG, Vit, Alliance, BDS, SectorOne

Ldn is tier 1
Xl tenstar smb bbl big 1.5

#34
no1xetafan
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T2 EMEA >>>>>,Alliance would shit on KEKREW

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gweees
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seankuku [#17]

navi and ldn utd would beat knights, lg, sentinels, xset, mb even v1.

I STILL THINK OPTIC IS BETTER THAN V1

You are smoking crack

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Marcock99
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hekzy [#31]

LDN utd, XL, Tenstar, SMB, BBL, BIG, Vit, Alliance, BDS, SectorOne

vit t2 not even qualifying for vrl france playoffs 🤣🤣

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ConsistentCycles [#15]

i see T1 as the teams that made it to playoffs in NA while nrg 100t eg rise are all T2 imo. in that case i think the tier 2 NA teams will win against the VRL teams. but if you count teams that made groups in EMEA like navi and ldn utd they would beat T2 NA

Even smb would literally win against all teams -optic and c9 prob

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patuj
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gweees [#35]

You are smoking crack

Its not too far off, obviously hard to tell. Considering that M3C is in same group with them who are arguably best in the world and then you have both FPX and TL who are pretty comparable to top NA teams (Guard, V1, Optic, C9). So LDN UTD and NaVi are pretty comparable to SEN and XSET.

#39
DELUSIONAL_s0m_FAN
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t1 eu would lose in groups to zmm silver

#40
FightWasTaken
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t2 EU would defeat t1 NA let alone t2 NA

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Mortadelo
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hekzy [#31]

LDN utd, XL, Tenstar, SMB, BBL, BIG, Vit, Alliance, BDS, SectorOne

Why are BDS, Vitality, Alliance, or Tenstar more tier 2 than Case or Wave?

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AcidRain
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kekw C9 White > any FREEMEA T2 team kekw kekw

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no1xetafan [#34]

T2 EMEA >>>>>,Alliance would shit on KEKREW

+1 SEIDERGOD gonna controller diff everyone in NA

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Marcock99
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AcidRain [#42]

kekw C9 White > any FREEMEA T2 team kekw kekw

g2 gozen > any Nearest Airport t1 team kekw kekw

#45
ciro
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You really think NA tier 2 teams would stand a chance against bonkar using just a very small fraction of his power? not a chance

#46
Mortadelo
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ciro [#45]

You really think NA tier 2 teams would stand a chance against bonkar using just a very small fraction of his power? not a chance

He even plays with Yoru to leave the rest a chance

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sasuke777lover
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NA

#48
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edelhose1337 [#29]

I would love to see alliance, mouz or tundra vs tsm

That's T2 EU vs T3 NA

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HavocWEEB
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i think eu is way better in tier 1 but the tier 2 there is far behind tier 1 teams

in na tier 2 teams are much closer to the level of tier 1 na teams and often put up a good number of rounds ro upset them

na tier 2 better than eu tier 2
na tier 1 worse than eu tier 1

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Skyss
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T1, TSM, 100T TIER 1

100T BEAT ACEND AND GAMBIT

#51
sundaymondaytuesday
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BananaBread [#3]

Trying to find people with an iq below room temp

The one who made this thread is below temp room

#52
AcidRain
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Marcock99 [#44]

g2 gozen > any Nearest Airport t1 team kekw kekw

random groups of immortals in NA could solo G2 main roster 💀💀💀💀

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AcidRain
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Skyss [#50]

T1, TSM, 100T TIER 1

100T BEAT ACEND AND GAMBIT

Tsm kekw

#54
zardinez
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Marcock99 [#14]

imo top t2 EU teams are better than NA t1 team

I hate to break it to you but mouz isn't beating C9 or Optic when they're fired up. They'd probably beat LG or Knights though.

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zardinez
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seankuku [#17]

navi and ldn utd would beat knights, lg, sentinels, xset, mb even v1.

I STILL THINK OPTIC IS BETTER THAN V1

No see Optic isn't nearly as consistent as V1 but they have moments of pure excellence. Take their game against V1 (for example), they POUNDED on Bind. 13-2 for fucks sake. Then on Haven and Icebox they got 13-5'd twice. That's the lacking consistency, and a main reason why I think they shouldn't go to masters because they're super unreliable.

#56
feelsbadboaster
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SOME t2 eu teams could beat SOME t1 na teams, but it depends on the teams. There's a huge disparity between t1 eu and t2 eu

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hekzy
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Marcock99 [#36]

vit t2 not even qualifying for vrl france playoffs 🤣🤣

Maybe because france is stacked as fuck?

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hekzy
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Mortadelo [#41]

Why are BDS, Vitality, Alliance, or Tenstar more tier 2 than Case or Wave?

Because in terms of quality france, north >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dach, spain

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Mortadelo
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hekzy [#58]

Because in terms of quality france, north >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dach, spain

Highly doubt that, but we'll se soon Ig

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no_noise_979
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fadezis [#27]

Teams in playoffs tier 1
Teams in groups tier1.5
Teams that out from groups to EMEA promotion tier 2(2 teams with 0-5)

True + Best VRL teams (top 2 from promotion tournament) tier 1.5

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no_noise_979
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zardinez [#54]

I hate to break it to you but mouz isn't beating C9 or Optic when they're fired up. They'd probably beat LG or Knights though.

you are right though i think for LG/Knights vs mouz/XL/Rebels i think its more 50/50, it might go either way

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Mjtchell
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I think the fact that 100T ignored ec1s igling shows that NA is all tier 2 and tier 2 NA is just tier 3 valorant

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