Makes me sick
if its the one im thinking of, all the replies are saying "no f0rsaken??" 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I was too disgusted to check the comments but it was posted by lionzblade
f0rkbacon should be no where near either 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Depends on what u prioritize. I prioritize high value trophies. Ethan wins in this category
It's sad to see
The same thing that happened to chronicle will happen to Ethan
Because he gets compared to other goats so often people will start belittling all of his achievements (to prove whichever player they like more is better) to the point where people will genuinely start believing he isn't a good player
the reality is that he just isn't the greatest player to ever play valorant
Ethan is the same as dupreeh, gla1ve. Trophies, but not in the goat discussion as an individule player.
nah shrike this is bait
Chronicle has consistently been attending events since 2021
ethan has had like 3.5-4.0 flop years (non-Berlin 2021, 2022, 2024, early 2025)
Ethan's only argument is his 2x champs and that's it. In all other aspects, there are many players who clear him
Well dupreeh applies more to chronicle because he has the most trophies but wasn’t really the most influential part in winning them
if Ethan wins like one or two more and gets carried then yeah i suppose he’d be the dupreeh of valorant
but wasn’t really the most influential part in winning them
bait
we're really acting like Ethan didnt get carried by Potter+Demon1 and then Bonkar + maybe Brawk/S0m
how is it bait? was chronicle the most influential person in winning each trophy he’s won?
Ngl I'd say chronicle is more magisk.
Chronicle in fnatic was a top2/3 individule player.
In night ethan is probably 3rd or 4th as an individule.
In astralis peak, it usually went like this mechanically
Dev1ce, magisk, dupree, xyp, gla1ve.
Id say ethan is more dupree, and chronicle as magisk. Magisk had inconsistency issues, but had higher individule peaks from what I remember.
I could be wrong with this.
Dupree was consistent, but never reached an absurd peak.
If I could compare them, id say chronicle is like bit. Still young, won some events, flexible in playstyle, etc.
Ethan is older and playstyle fits dupree well. Both semi support individule players.
Every single valorant player in existence, if they find great success, will be scrutinized; the more you win the more people will try and find a way to diminish your achievements in order to propagate their own agendas
is Chronicle in the conversation? Of course, he is the most decorated player of all time and performs very well internationally
will i call him a fraud everytime he does bad? Yes, because it’s funny and i like baiting
if Ethan reaches Chronicle levels of slander that just means he’s on par with him in the goat convo :p
who are you even taking over him? asspas? barnacle? foreskin???? everyone sucks bro
bro there's 3 players on his own team that I would take over him, brawk mada and keiko are all better😭
ethan has done absolutely nothing besides getting carried in what was the biggest cinderella run we've ever seen. trophies do not matter, starxo has a champs trophy too
Bro we all know zeek is a superior player to nats and the whole liquid roster.
I just feel bad bro i can feel the frustration in every sentence you type, like i kinda want NRG to lose just so you chill out
i think nrg is good !! im not talking about them im talking about ethan tho, and everytime we discuss u just end up attacking me as a person... kinda mean
i think im mistaking u for sh1lll during the jayde situation... all this time i thought it was u
Don't think the game has a GOAT yet it's a overused word for explaining who their favourite players are.
Chronicle FNC GOAT.
s0m NRG GOAT.
yay OPTIC GOAT.
ETHAN NRG GOAT.
ASPAS BRAZIL GOAT.
For me personally the goat is a person who had yay level 2022 performance for multiple years and noone has done that but I don't think anyone will either lmao.
But I can see views for aspas chronicle etc etc
delusion is why f0rsaken even gets mentioned
no one takes the goat debate seriously and just choose their favorite players or ragebait
the only real 3 in the goat debate are Chronicle, Alfajer, and Boaster. all 3 have good arguments
It's easy to say he is if you're a Prx fan or a highlight watcher
he's incredible at his best but drops frequent bad/mid games
people also massively overrate his agent pool
he can play a lot of agents but a lot of his recent international performances off omen are quite weak