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Will a team ever pick up haeyoday? I remember people calling him a fraud but at this point it’s pretty undeniable that he’s a good player. But I’ve heard he has massive ego issues.

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he doesn't have a great reputation

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chinesesalesmen
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ego shitter who farms rating in funhavers

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tvkxsh1
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i dont think he'll ever get on a team

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SENfns
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all t1 duelists in english speaking teams are better

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cirruss
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he’s not even sniffing a serious t2 team

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MrBlooBloom
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he isn't even playing in T2, he did pretty good in qualifiers at the beggining of the season but I don't even think he wants to become a serious pro player

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SENfns [#5]

all t1 duelists in english speaking teams are better

virtyy is better then haeyoday

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chinesesalesmen [#8]

virtyy is better then haeyoday

did you read half of what i said

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he seems to be a prick, and not SO GOOD to the point where you firm having somebody like that on the team

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SENfns [#9]

did you read half of what i said

yes. and I'm saying even virtyy is better then haeyoday

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chinesesalesmen [#11]

yes. and I'm saying even virtyy is better then haeyoday

yeah but haeyoday doesn't speak brazilian so it doesn't matter

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his ego is so fucking high its insane
might actually be better to play with a random immortal than with haeyoday

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KINGMANNY42
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cheater

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inuis
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SENfns [#12]

yeah but haeyoday doesn't speak brazilian so it doesn't matter

speak brazillian

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inuis [#15]

speak brazillian

the brazilian dialect of portuguese

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Any team picking that guy would do a huge disservice to the scene.

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r1JJa
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We watched envy do what it do now can we please stop acting like streamer bums belong anywhere near a stage that ain't a showmatch

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teamhereticsemea
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hes obv good but whenever im watching his stream in ranked he just has so much ego

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yukeekazuha
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doesn't he have raw accel? don't think he can use that in pro tournaments can he?

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Being okay in Funhavers and Ranked does not nearly qualify you to be in T2, let alone T1. My guess (I have not seen him in trials so this is purely speculation and second hand info) is he thinks himself to be above half the players who actually have a better average level across the skillsets required to be a T2+ competitor, and thus not improving on it enough to be taken serious in the trials he gets. It's a fairly common issue with players who gain notoriety through ranked to assume they are on top of the world already, while the real climb has not even really started.

TLDR: "Dropping 50s in ranked" is not nearly enough to be a serious competitor.

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Gdgdfdgtttt [#13]

his ego is so fucking high its insane
might actually be better to play with a random immortal than with haeyoday

Fair I didn’t know at first but apparently he did trial with qor at some point

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fm111111 [#21]

Being okay in Funhavers and Ranked does not nearly qualify you to be in T2, let alone T1. My guess (I have not seen him in trials so this is purely speculation and second hand info) is he thinks himself to be above half the players who actually have a better average level across the skillsets required to be a T2+ competitor, and thus not improving on it enough to be taken serious in the trials he gets. It's a fairly common issue with players who gain notoriety through ranked to assume they are on top of the world already, while the real climb has not even really started.

TLDR: "Dropping 50s in ranked" is not nearly enough to be a serious competitor.

There’s no need to be disingenuous about his skill as a player he can do the same against T2 teams and is clearly good. But yeah seems like anyone who’d he’d be on a team with wouldn’t like him anyways. https://www.vlr.gg/642206/blue-otter-vs-grokai-funhavergg-2026-wild-west-qualifier-4-ro32

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r1JJa [#18]

We watched envy do what it do now can we please stop acting like streamer bums belong anywhere near a stage that ain't a showmatch

ENVY is mainly cooked due to the meta change and them lacking their prodigy duelist and smoke player. Even worse, their prodigy is literally banned for a whole year because he cannot control himself. I would be seriously interested to see if Cane would have performed anywhere close to his Tier 2 capacity.

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SENfns [#16]

the brazilian dialect of portuguese

speak brazilian

that's like saying someone doesn't speak american when they're on a team like nrg

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hes not even good
hes not even a top 90 tier 2 player he’s technically tier 3

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Germy
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twigster001 [#25]

speak brazilian

that's like saying someone doesn't speak american when they're on a team like nrg

yeah NRG fell off a bit cuz keiko doesnt speak American ofc, only British

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osamason [#26]

hes not even good
hes not even a top 90 tier 2 player he’s technically tier 3

Well yes he’s not playing that’s kinda my point simply been owning tier 3 for over a year. How can you say he’s not even top 90 in tier 2 when he’s literally not even there to prove that.

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Toph_ [#23]

There’s no need to be disingenuous about his skill as a player he can do the same against T2 teams and is clearly good. But yeah seems like anyone who’d he’d be on a team with wouldn’t like him anyways. https://www.vlr.gg/642206/blue-otter-vs-grokai-funhavergg-2026-wild-west-qualifier-4-ro32

It's not really about that, it's that when he's good he's good, but he won't play any better than where he is now since he doesn't take things seriously. He's a clipfarmer, essentially.

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Toph_ [#28]

Well yes he’s not playing that’s kinda my point simply been owning tier 3 for over a year. How can you say he’s not even top 90 in tier 2 when he’s literally not even there to prove that.

if he's not getting any opportunities in tier two there's a reason why. Huge ego, not willing to learn, cheating accusations, it's just bad for players and for rep of the org for a player that isn't even going to learn to be better.

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milflover92 [#29]

It's not really about that, it's that when he's good he's good, but he won't play any better than where he is now since he doesn't take things seriously. He's a clipfarmer, essentially.

Why play tier 3 at all if you just want to clip farm. I think it’s pretty strange to assume he has no drive to compete or improve. Especially to assume he can’t possibly be better.

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He’s better than 90% of tier 2 players but his ego and mentality makes it difficult to pick him up, it’s the same as with traded. The people in this thread who say he’s not good enough are just braindead af

Ngl seeing anyone in this thread claim to be a tier 2/3 knower is just sad, most of yall don’t know shit

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milflover92 [#30]

if he's not getting any opportunities in tier two there's a reason why. Huge ego, not willing to learn, cheating accusations, it's just bad for players and for rep of the org for a player that isn't even going to learn to be better.

Which is fair. And valid reasons. Though again “not willing to learn” is a bold claim. I simply don’t understand the points of “he’s simply not good enough” which is why I addressed this.

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yukeekazuha [#20]

doesn't he have raw accel? don't think he can use that in pro tournaments can he?

Raw accel is allowed in pro play

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Toph_ [#31]

Why play tier 3 at all if you just want to clip farm. I think it’s pretty strange to assume he has no drive to compete or improve. Especially to assume he can’t possibly be better.

Honestly I have no idea why he plays any organized valorant since all he does is swing your shit with no regard for the team anyways. He might have drive to compete but I doubt he'll improve nearly as fast as any good tier two talent.

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chinesesalesmen [#3]

ego shitter who farms rating in funhavers

i thought he was a nice wholesome dude

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JonahPork [#32]

He’s better than 90% of tier 2 players but his ego and mentality makes it difficult to pick him up, it’s the same as with traded. The people in this thread who say he’s not good enough are just braindead af

Ngl seeing anyone in this thread claim to be a tier 2/3 knower is just sad, most of yall don’t know shit

Yeah I didn’t realize he was as problematic online as he was lol. I thought he just had an ego and maybe micromanaged people often kinda like inspire. Didn’t realize it was that deep. Some players genuinely hate this guy.

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Toph_ [#33]

Which is fair. And valid reasons. Though again “not willing to learn” is a bold claim. I simply don’t understand the points of “he’s simply not good enough” which is why I addressed this.

he is good enough to play tier two, that's not really the point. The point is, he's already good enough to play in tier two, but he won't perform in organized play nearly as well since he's very individualistic, he has ego problems which creates divide in teams, and he has accusations. Orgs don't want to risk their reputation being their player and their fan by picking up such a risky player, just for a guy that might be decent in tier two, likely at the expense of the rest of his team's mental. The Ego problems won't allow him to learn as quick as other, already developed talent. It's just not worth it.

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sh1lll [#36]

i thought he was a nice wholesome dude

lying for fun 😭

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Toph_ [#37]

Yeah I didn’t realize he was as problematic online as he was lol. I thought he just had an ego and maybe micromanaged people often kinda like inspire. Didn’t realize it was that deep. Some players genuinely hate this guy.

Another thing that isn’t brought up often about haeyoday is simply that he doesn’t actually have mastery over any agents but Reyna and Clove. I watched his entire challengers open qual run this year and it’s blatantly obvious, he’s like a Cryo on those agents but far worse. He purely gets by with his aim. Even on raze, he literally doesn’t know how to double satchel and also refuses to play other agents in ranked. I don’t know if that contributes to why no one picks him up but it’s a possibility.

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JonahPork [#40]

Another thing that isn’t brought up often about haeyoday is simply that he doesn’t actually have mastery over any agents but Reyna and Clove. I watched his entire challengers open qual run this year and it’s blatantly obvious, he’s like a Cryo on those agents but far worse. He purely gets by with his aim. Even on raze, he literally doesn’t know how to double satchel and also refuses to play other agents in ranked. I don’t know if that contributes to why no one picks him up but it’s a possibility.

100% contributes to him not getting picked up, once prime Waylay got nerfed I don't think he has another meta agent down.

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Germy [#27]

yeah NRG fell off a bit cuz keiko doesnt speak American ofc, only British

i've heard enough
-keiko, eu british inferior english speaking bum
+yay pure american patriot

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chinesesalesmen [#39]

lying for fun 😭

clearly im not lying if i said i thought dumbass this was ur opportunity to educate me but u wanna be a strange ass guy

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KiwiJuice
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worse reputation than inspire

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foolio
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word on the street he a baiter

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quixdotpng
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As a tier 2 knower, I have never heard of this mf

but I will now be watching

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Germy
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twigster001 [#42]

i've heard enough
-keiko, eu british inferior english speaking bum
+yay pure american patriot

truth nuke

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yukeekazuha
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JonahPork [#34]

Raw accel is allowed in pro play

who uses raw accel in t1 or t2?

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yukeekazuha [#48]

who uses raw accel in t1 or t2?

Add3r uses it, he played tier 2 for a while and stood in for furia in kickoff last year

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bad reputation, doesn't have playtime in tier 2, probably doesn't even trial for teams. doesn't matter how good your aim and mechanics are if you don't make an attempt to make yourself marketable.

tl;dr down to his very soul he's a ranked player who just mainly stomps tier 3 for fun

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Cairozin
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Overrated

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Subcrafted
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JonahPork [#40]

Another thing that isn’t brought up often about haeyoday is simply that he doesn’t actually have mastery over any agents but Reyna and Clove. I watched his entire challengers open qual run this year and it’s blatantly obvious, he’s like a Cryo on those agents but far worse. He purely gets by with his aim. Even on raze, he literally doesn’t know how to double satchel and also refuses to play other agents in ranked. I don’t know if that contributes to why no one picks him up but it’s a possibility.

How to watch his games

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he always loses the qualifiers to tier 2 i think so hes not that all that. just ranked demon

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eeiu_glazer
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he cant play any good agents. he has an ego. he hasnt proven himself against good teams and just farms t3. he doesnt even want to go pro either. so i would guess hes not making a team

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cirruss [#6]

he’s not even sniffing a serious t2 team

Hes more than sniffing ngl

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