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Let's discuss G2s punishment

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ValdemieGC
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Koldamenta's rant about the whole thing
https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482096645873537029

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https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482122422165856263

"nice frauds"

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ValdemieGC
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https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482130879002693641

"mf... you don't work with you coach as IGL?? you are not up to date with your METHODOLOGY"

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https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482289456946241537

"someone has been teaching russian language classes since I've left and his accent has changed or this smells like METHOD"

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https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482122339819130890

Onur: "This is an scandal"
Kolda: "Shoulde've been but the clips where he is heard are deleted"

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https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482100753707814920

"Who needs an IGL if you can have that super good method"

#20
PrTsty
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thansk for the translations

#21
ValdemieGC
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you're welcome mate

I think all this shit is gold and G2 should def. be punished

#3
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I think they should get fined 25k. Carlos already rich+rito need some money

#15
ValdemieGC
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Carlos should have been the first one to take part after all this happened. Mr. Methods should have been immediately kicked

#4
gareth
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G2 can't compete in Challengers 2, missing out on Masters 1
Pipson is suspended for a year
Depending on Nukkye's involvement, he should also be suspended for a year

#6
Delusional_Mitch_Fan
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nukkyes involvement? r u crayz. the whole team was involved; nukkye just posted it.

#16
ValdemieGC
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Unironically, some say that pipsoN was in nukkyes appartment lmao

#8
CalypsoGHC
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no punishment

#10
WONDERWEISS
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Ban them for at least 3 Years from competing in Valorants VCT. This is a serious crime.

#11
CalypsoGHC
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0/8

#17
ValdemieGC
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1st of all, suspend pipsoN for competing in VCL. Then suspend G2 for the next online or LAN events.

#18
Moi6969
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no punishment

#19
queueK
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kicked from challengers 1 league, missing out on masters 1.

kicked from invite into north EU vrl, but allowed to play if they get in through open quals. (so they can have a chance to get into masters 2)

-50 circuit points

#23
Mortadelo
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Bro, they are not in challengers 1 league, they don’t have an invite to the Nordic VRL, and the season just started they don’t have circuit points. Wtf

#29
queueK
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banned from challengers 1 = ban from open 2. my b about the vrl invite. They should have negative circuit points.

#24
DDenied
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there are no invites for northern vrl

#28
queueK
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oh my bad. I saw a twitter interaction and assumed they were.

#22
Glycoroldas
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Riot are probably hoping that G2 do not qualify into the VCT, so that they could apply a relative nothingburger penalty. Whereas if G2 somehow miraculously do manage to get through, well that then just complicates things for mr. rito.

#25
ValdemieGC
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I've been informed that riot is investigating all of this. So let's be patient. G2s reputation if they knew all this and didn't move a finger tho...

#26
Glycoroldas
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Yeah, 5 days(realistically speaking 2 working days) is definitely not enough to complete the investigation and figure out an appropriate punishment.

#48
VirajKnight
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Yes. Mixwell should be banned for rest of his life for letting this happen as the captain so we will not see his shitty Jett play ever again. This is the only thing I'm waiting from this scene.

#49
ValdemieGC
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0/8 bait

#52
VirajKnight
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Why u don't like Mixwell getting punished for this? I think he should get the double punishment as the captain. Also Giants should also get the same punishment. That includes Fitinho as the captain.

#53
ValdemieGC
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My man apparently tunnel-visioned to my flag LMAO

0/8 bait, unlucko, mald harder

What the fuck does Giants even have to do with this? holy kek

#54
Never_Wrong
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Well put. Isn't that their same logic after all?

#55
ValdemieGC
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I've never said mixwell shouldn't be punished tho?

#27
yaiima0
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This is a serious situation and should be investigated very deeply.

#30
tatatatatata
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Start next game 0x7

#31
ValdemieGC
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quite SOFT punishment my brazilian friend
cmon now...

#36
Izanagi
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true, and we almost won even with the punishment

#57
tatatatatata
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lmao thats the joke, thats Rito for you

#32
Never_Wrong
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This shit again

Hey vlr randoms. Let's all act like professionals pretending we know shit all once again!

Why aren't Mixwell fans calling him out as well btw

#33
ValdemieGC
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Let's not raise a concern about koldamenta's tweets tho, @never_wrong

#34
Never_Wrong
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Why should I, I'm not a drama whore

That dude's passive-aggressiveness is my only concern here. NBS IGLd for him in Acend :p

#38
ValdemieGC
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NBS IGL for him and no rule was there to guarantee it shouldn't be done ;)
But hey, apparently now there is!

#41
ValdemieGC
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Tanizhq's tweet explain this issue very well

https://twitter.com/Tanizhq/status/1482321787274907653

"Even IF Nbs was full IGLing before, it doesn't matter, because it was allowed then, Riots fault.
Now its clearly cheating, G2s fault, no one else to blame."

G2 is being punished, my friend, sorry for your loss

#56
Never_Wrong
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Completely missing the point.

Love to picture you celebrating any ounce of G2's failure... Whereas I'll be doing the same if it turns out Mixwell was involved lmfao

Went from "not jumping to conclusions" to "G2 is being punished" real quick tho :/

#58
ValdemieGC
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Why would I even care if you celebrate or not mixwells being punished? Good for you and the integrity of the game LMAO

I'm not jumping to conclusions to involve noone but pipsoN and G2, who where clearly in fault

#59
Never_Wrong
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"pipsoN and G2"

Oh yes, the world renowned esports player, G2.

The hypocrisy you show lmfao

#60
ValdemieGC
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G2 is not a player, but an org

And if pipsoN is involved, they are involved

Take your pill @never_wrong, it's getting late

#35
gweees
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they should be banned from the next qual at least and pipson should get like a 6-9 month ban

#37
Izanagi
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can someone give me the context?

#40
ValdemieGC
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G2 "suspend" bootcamp after unknown reasons.
Later, pipsoN seems to appear on nukkye's live match vods after bootcamp "was suspended". Koldamenta appears and raise a concern about pipsoN "methods".
Nukkye deletes vod and then reuploads again without pipsoNs voice.

hmm momento

#42
Never_Wrong
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Hmmm speculating and jumping to conclusions when nothing has been said yet hmmm...

Waiting for you guys to call out Mixwell as well. Let's see

#43
ValdemieGC
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Jumping to conclusions? I think the evidence is quite solid and obvious man, you've gotta be too delusional to deny it.

Waiting for you guys to call out Mixwell as well

As we all can see, you are the one jumping to conclusions, assuming I didn't condemn mixwell's implication in all this bullshit. Let's see

#46
Never_Wrong
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Blatantly misusing the word "evidence" in such a topic. Might as well search up the definition of the word

As we all can see, you are the one jumping to conclusions, assuming I didn't condemn mixwell's implication in all this bullshit. Let's see

Didn't read it anywhere but I'll take your word on that since you seem to be including absolutely everyone holding them responsible with no basis whatsoever. Needless to say that I find that stupid, accusing Mixwell (as of now) included

#51
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Didn't read it anywhere but I'll take your word on that since you seem to be including absolutely everyone holding them responsible with no basis whatsoever. Needless to say that I find that stupid, accusing Mixwell (as of now) included

What is really needless to say is you accusing me of being a mixwell stand with no evidence for the sake of arguing mate.

Keep coping and denying the obvious

#39
gtngodyorukingdestruction
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If only at that moment by an oversight of Pipson he spoke in the middle of the game, then only a personal fine to Pipson and game on, however if investigations confirm that Pipson and Nukkye were sharing information during the games, then the punishment should be expulsion from G2 in the 2 open qualifier of Masters 1 and the 1 open qualifier of Masters 2, plus a 1 year ban from competitive for Nukkye and Pipson.

#44
yungbasel
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NICE NOOOOKY

#45
KyLZi
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Didn't Acend do something similar last year in the masters 1 final? Id say no punishment but whatever.

#47
ValdemieGC
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upperino for the lulz

G2 fans in shambles

#50
inkie
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Mixwell fanboys crying so hard 😭😭

#61
ItsMeDio
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bump

#62
justadude
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? its been like 5 days already, there is no way Riot didn't investigate 30s of voice coms, especially when G2 is playing for VCT qualification, are people really so salty about mixwell and kolda getting benched?.

#63
VirajKnight
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Nukkye said on stream that G2 will release the voice comm to the Youtube so people can hear what happened on that day. Lets see.

#64
justadude
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Sad how they were bullied to do so as it would make it easy to counter them.
But at least it will shut haters down.

#66
ValdemieGC
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I mean as if hearing you coach during comms midgame against team Vitality isn't enough to raise a concern about G2s methods? Not hating just to hate lol, I don't win anything doing that

It's just suspicious as hell reading all these koldamenta's tweets about pipsoN. Something is fishy right here.

#68
justadude
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You said yourself that it did raise concern and Riot will investigate, are they that slow or did they already investigate and didn't found anything that would be worth a penalty?

If Kolda "cheated" with pipson or whatever, doesn't mean G2 does.

#69
ValdemieGC
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My guess rn is that riot is not punishing it at all. But I know nothing really. If they announce it as punishable in their rulebook, and then they don't punish it, that just put riot at a very bad place.

If Kolda "cheated" with pipson or whatever, doesn't mean G2 does.

This is completely true, I have no clue if this practice was used when Kolda was there or not, so IDK about this.
But still, pipsoN was in G2 comms and let's remember that the rulebook doesn't allow it at all

#71
justadude
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I can guarantee they can also hear coaches screaming after clutch from every team that's in a bootcamp, would not surprise me if more coaches unmute themselves to congratulate players and Riot admins don't care or maybe they got a warning or something for that. Doubt there would be any major consequences for "LETS GOOOO NUKKY".

#72
ValdemieGC
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There is an issue with your reasoning, and that is that g2 where not bootcamping. If you knew the rulebook why the f would you still being heard during comms midgame?

After all, LAN events are WAY more and easily more "patrolled". Not the case with online events tho, that's why pipsoN shouldn't have been in comms with them, IMO

I mean, there is a reason why nukkye deleted the clips, and that's because he knew he fucked up uploading it so everyone could heard pipsoN in it

#74
justadude
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Every coach is in coms they are just not allowed to talk.

Maybe he really did just want to upload that clip to main twitter feed not as a comment to his old tweet.

#70
ValdemieGC
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Also, I've looked for the VCT 2022 rulebook, and this is what you can read on it, word by word.

4.8. Coaches
4.8.1. Teams may have one coach. If a Team has a coach, then that coach may be
present for every Match in which the Team participates. For live, in-person
tournaments held as part of the VCT (“LAN Events”), at least one of a Team’s
designated coaches may be on site throughout each such Match. Coaches may be
connected to the voice communication system in the lobby and will only be allowed
to talk to players and others during the Agent and Map selection process for each
Match, timeouts, half-times and in between Maps (if applicable).
Coaches are only
permitted to be in the Match Area during Agent and Map selection and in between
Maps.

Applying VCT 2022 rulebook, and after evidence of nukkye's deleted clips where pipsoN is heard midround: G2 should be rightfully punished

#73
justadude
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Applying VCT 2022 rulebook, and after evidence of nukkye's deleted clips where pipsoN is heard midround: G2 should be rightfully punished

Maybe they did get a warning or something during game with punishment after repeated offence. Fuck do we know.
We are only spreading conspiracy theories.

#75
ValdemieGC
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Maybe, maybe. I just want and expect more transparency from RIOT with all this shit man. If they "warned" them, then I think it is fair to make it public.

#65
Danny
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Coach suspended for 3-6 months

Team left alone bc the coach probably pressured them into it

#67
AdN-
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ban G2

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