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What is the hardest Competitve game

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WjFROST0

Gotta be chess or Pokemon

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angel98
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Ive played a lot of competitive pokemon and its not close to being the hardest
Hardest are chess and most sports

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WjFROST0
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Top level competitive pokemon is some of the hardest shit, i played alot of showdown and i made Top10 Global and i can say for sure that shit is hard

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Wolfed
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liar

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WjFROST0
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Wallahi

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grisx23
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we are using you as benchmark?

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angel98
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I made top 3 global as well and get top 100 every now an then on OU and Random Battle. Its nowhere CLOSE to chess

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pokemon is just chess with extra steps

#51
Candlee
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That makes no sense

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angel98
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How is this getting upvoted. A 1400 ELO player in pokemon has about a 5-10% of winning against a 2100 ELO player. In chess there is a 0% chance

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Yuniee44
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the one where two fat dudes run into each other full speed

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Heret1cx
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Sumo?

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delighted
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pokemon

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tua
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Immortal ranked when your team 0 comms

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obgleich
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winable

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tua
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It’s usually like 3/5 vc

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bl4z31ng
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if we're only talking about only video games dota has gotta be the hardest (as a new player)

that shit is impossible to learn lmao

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justachillguy
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crazy no one said rocket league

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GroKayou
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I played Rocket league for 100 hours aproximatively and I peaked Diamond 3 (almost champion) in 2v2 with a friend. It's not that hard for a competitive game, you have a lot of progression when learning the game which is not the case for valorant for example or chess ig

but if you're refering to pros, it's clear that there is a huge gap between ranked players and them but still

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AGlover
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we are talking about being the highest level at competitive, its so more easy to reach radiant than reach ssl to a person who never played any pc game before

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GroKayou
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I think it depends on a lot of things there and even by saying that I was just talking about valorant but when you see some RTS players or even fighting games players rocket league is way easier

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AGlover
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idk about rts games, but fighting games looks more standardized than rocket league
probably to reach something like top 500 global u need more hours in rl than in fighting games i think

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GroKayou
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again depends of the fighting game and the games you played, if you're better with a keyboard or a controller things like that, if we're talking about pro lethal league blaze by exemple I wish you're able to react at light speed to catch a ball way harder than rl

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the thing is that rocket league has (one of the) the highest skill ceiling of any game anywhere. ive talked to people (and played myself), and its been said that rocket league basically doesnt have a skill ceiling because you can always improve. you can reach middle of the pack/lower high elo (diamond) easier, but the skill difference between people who are gc1-gc2, 2-3, and 3-ssl is massive. even high ssl is so much better than low ssl that its basically 2-3 ranks on its own. for games like chess for example, people are near (not necessarily at) the mathematical ceiling of the game (magnus has beaten stockfish before, for example). valorant/fps games are different, as you can always improve, but the statistical ceiling is lower than rocket league imo.

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AGlover
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imagine rocket league in 10 years 💀💀💀

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justachillguy
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nope you are grave delusion, all super grandmasters if they came together they cant beat stockfish, stockfish is constantly improving, stockfish from 2 years ago will get obliterated by the current models chess is an ever evolving game until it is completely solved which is not possible coz there are more possible chess positions than atoms in the universe

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bro said Pokemon

#26
Foxym
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Pokemon has a pretty active competitive scene
it just isnt very well known

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Xool_233
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I know about competitive Pokemon, it's just not that difficult

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angel98
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I have over 3000 hours playing competitive pokemon and you are 100% right

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SleepingSnorlax
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Pokémon is one of them

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Castawaytwizz
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fortnite. npcs will say rocket league but that shit is so easy

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WjFROST0
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Oo yeah Fortnites a good one too

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AGlover
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when i was tryhard in fortnite i beat the best creative player in fortnite 1v1, but i am mid at rocket league (need to tryhard and practice the game) but looks so much difficulty to be really good

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aeth333
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holy larp

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lilwho
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dota 2

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0410
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Starcraft. Just look at the players pov on youtube and you will get it. This game has the hardest macro and you also have to make 10 million micro decisions every second

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1d
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Always amazed by rts gamers

#21
ronaldinhoooooooooooo
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Osu, I get carpal tunnel by watching

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MrHyphon
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Probably one of the tcgs

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GroKayou
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RTS games no doubts

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Anchorxz
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gungi

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hardcake
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freefi...

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Langacune
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gunz

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guuz
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im so sad i missed the betas

#33
Justsomebum
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debate with ur s/o

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Warlordwibz
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Fortnite.

#35
overheat
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clicking. Some people just click way faster and you can't do anything about it.

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ReflexVLR
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Rocket League, also the guy that said Fortnite is a dumbass

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31Raven
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THIS IS ROCKET LEAGUE!

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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Rocket League
Chess
Unironically cs2
You literally have people like donk who have been training to be a cs2 pro since the age of 11 or whatever, what chance do you have, if you face against people that have been playing and training for their whole lives

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9wntr
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Overwatch

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GodAwfulGod
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Easily Dota 2 or Starcraft 2

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MaximumImpactVLR
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Rainbow Six Siege

#49
king_bob
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the shit i saw from quake/unreal tournament pros is genuinely ridiculous and is one of the reasons why i rate demon1 so highly

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OliverQueen_
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chess is def most difficult

#57
RealBallKnower
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Bro said chess lol. if its so hard there wouldnt be only same winner every tournament like Magnus. Winners would be different, but its not the case, is it?

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Ryandr
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??????. So val is harder than league now?

#59
RealBallKnower
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Yes? If it's simple we would have the same winner every tourney like Vitality on CS2. CS2 is easy

#61
Ryandr
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Wait I just saw your name. You are indeed a real ball knower. Didn't you have fs flair tho?

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Langacune
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if its hard then it would be harder to beat the best, what are you saying

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Marty
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its chess, not even close, zero arguments for anything else

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