https://youtu.be/9tTznPUy6Xc?si=C5wk0BfObwV_OsqG
fns said that with both teams’ players playing at their max, nrg clears mibr.
so for him, at 100%:
mada > aspas
keiko > zekken
skuba > tex
ethan > verno
brawk > mazino
do you agree with these claims?
he seemed really pissed when people disagreed with him.
Did fns himself say that at their max all nrg individuals are better than their counterparts in mibr?
Just because everyone in NRG is in top condition doesn't mean each player is dominating their opponents
And since he's a hard aspas glazer that's even less likely
Why would you write nrg players like that man. I read it so wrong
https://www.vlr.gg/542269/mibr-vs-nrg-valorant-champions-2025-ubsf/?game=all&tab=performance
only ethan beat his counterpart in artzin and it was by 1 kill 💀
true, but he got heated when people said mibr was better than nrg player-to-player.
the only one the chat agreed was worse was tex, just watch the video.
I'd say (comparing them based on role)
Mada < Aspas
Keiko = Zekken
Brawk < Verno
Skuba > Tex
Ethan > Mazino
But teamplay-wise NRG > MIBR
So overall NRG prob more favored, still close tho
i mean individually no
but if they were at their max in teamplay then yes they would clear mibr at this point in time, but later in the season idk
I mean are we saying that was mibr at max team play, cuz they were not prancing the entire off season. Mibr is far from their peak
just because the team is overall better doesnt mean that every single player is better
also coaching is massively relevant cause strats actually matter surprisingly for vlr users
Peak versus peak
Aspas > Mada
Keiko ~=Zekken (extremely close)
Skuba > Tex
Verno ~= Ethan (very close as well)
Brawk > Mazino
And I'm talking like absolute peak vs peak
the comparison isn’t about who has more trophies, not sure if you got that part
When comparing individuals in a team game based on their skills don't bring up trophies. And I think the the talk here was about who is better individually.
mechanically, verno is better than ethan
but right now, as an igl, ethan is better than verno, and not by much
in the long run, verno has everything to become a better igl than ethan
(remembering that verno only became an igl in stage 2 of 2025, so he has way less time as an igl than ethan does)
Verno clears brawk mechanically, it's not even close. Aspas on his best day is 10 times better than Mada on his best day, Zekken on his best day aces NRG every single time don't even start talking about keiko.
Skuba owns Tex even on a bad day so that's not a question
Mazino is criminally underrated by every NA valorant person that breathes but I'll give it to Ethan anyway.
Still 3-2 for MIBR.
He said player for player he takes NRG over MIBR. That does not mean he believes that each NRG player clears their respective counterpart that means he thinks if each person was to 1v1 their respective counterpart NRG would have a better record, which isn't wrong since other Aspas > Mada and Zekken = Keiko, the rest of NRG clears their counterparts.
in what universe is keiko on zekkens level aready, what did this guy actually show yet?
I am honestly being nice saying Zekken = Keiko when Keiko > Zekken is a more reasonable take considering Zekken is on a new role too.
Like Keiko was the best player in EMEA regionally last year
That's like explaining why Ronaldo has better stats than messi, everyone knows messi is better and everyone knows zekken is better just by watching the game long enough
Zekken was a worse player than Keiko last year. Stats are the most direct way I have of proving that fact but it's not the entire basis of my argument.
braindead interpretation. and also just bcus aspas is the better individual doesnt mean hes the better player for the team
Quoting a comment from YouTube: "bruh fns gotta be on some cocaine shit, NRG almost lost to MIBR in champs when all of NRG was primed vs prime aspas only. Aspas didn't even play close to his 30% best and they still won convincingly. NRG is a better experienced team but if you are talking about prime versions of players MIBR should be clearing every team just based off the prime form argument."
whoever said keiko and zekken are extremely close is smoking some balls
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