Aspas vs Derke
Verno vs Jamppi
Zekken vs profek
Tex vs Sayonara
Mazino vs Chronicle
Who is winning?
VIT VS MIBR
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MIBR are better for 3/5 players but i think all 5 players on Vitality are better than 5 players on MIBR if you look at them collectively so i think its even on paper.
mibr 100%
Aspas > Derke
Jamppi > Verno
Zekken > Profek
Tex = Sayonara
Chronicle > Mazino
fRoD (world champion) >>>>
Cerati [#5]mibr 100%
Aspas > Derke
Jamppi > Verno
Zekken > Profek
Tex = Sayonara
Chronicle > MazinofRoD (world champion) >>>>
Tex = Sayonara?? u are crazy bro
Asto3 [#7]Tex = Sayonara?? u are crazy bro
they have the same shit stats on tier 1
Kinkz [#8]wait THAT is the rumoured roster for MIBR? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
3/5 mibr players are already confirmed... lil bro was living in a cave
Cerati [#5]mibr 100%
Aspas > Derke
Jamppi > Verno
Zekken > Profek
Tex = Sayonara
Chronicle > MazinofRoD (world champion) >>>>
Jamppi > Verno
The fuck am I reading
Asto3 [#7]Tex = Sayonara?? u are crazy bro
That's the part you questioned and not jammpi > verno?
molayking3 [#13]That's the part you questioned and not jammpi > verno?
he edited the message, no way jamppi is better than verno
Asto3 [#7]Tex = Sayonara?? u are crazy bro
sayonara clears t0x bro what are u saying
Asto3 [#6]MIBR is better on paper...
3/3 yes but 5/5 no
tex is not better than sayonara
and chron is better than mazino
molayking3 [#13]That's the part you questioned and not jammpi > verno?
jamppi underrated, verno is good not better
wNoble [#16]3/3 yes but 5/5 no
tex is not better than sayonara
and chron is better than mazino
the thing is this 3/3 is insanely strong...
Asto3 [#11]3/5 mibr players are already confirmed... lil bro was living in a cave
who's confirmed who's rumoured? Why is it not on vlr if it's confirmed?
Kinkz [#19]who's confirmed who's rumoured? Why is it not on vlr if it's confirmed?
https://vctstats.com/rostermania
aspas, zekken and mazino are confirmed. verno’s still in the renewal process, and tex is just a strong rumor for now.
Asto3 [#18]the thing is this 3/3 is insanely strong...
yea but if they have t0x holding them back it's gonna be difficult against an actual good team
atleast mazino can have some life games here and there
t0x prime was back in 1985
going from cortezia to t0x is just stupid
wNoble [#21]yea but if they have t0x holding them back it's gonna be difficult against an actual good team
atleast mazino can have some life games here and there
t0x prime was back in 1985
going from cortezia to t0x is just stupid
i 100% agree with you
if aspas brings that bum tex he’s gonna regret it later when tex drops a -20 in a crucial champions match
Serath [#24]Sadly with zekken entrying MIBR clears so hard
zekken entrying on controller nice
Its just lev 2024 all over again.
Asto3 [#25]holy env0 flair
on god give us brazil latam to farm anyday in t1
Na regional is quite unpred coz Discord2 always locks one spot
Asto3 [#23]i 100% agree with you
if aspas brings that bum tex he’s gonna regret it later when tex drops a -20 in a crucial champions match
there's rumors abt g2 wanting cortezia for leaf
so if mibr can get leaf that'll be good
Ronyko23 [#27]on god give us brazil latam to farm anyday in t1
Na regional is quite unpred coz Discord2 always locks one spot
you really think your team’s gonna farm against the new kru and leviatan? you gotta be kidding...
sato and spike are better than the whole envy roster
Asto3 [#29]you really think your team’s gonna farm against the new kru and leviatan? you gotta be kidding...
sato and spike are better than the whole envy roster
Not even better than team solid. Sato wasn't even all that in tier 2.. There is a reason m80 disbanded
Ronyko23 [#26]zekken entrying on controller nice
Its just lev 2024 all over again.
i thought he play flex and they run double duelist on some maps
wNoble [#28]there's rumors abt g2 wanting cortezia for leaf
so if mibr can get leaf that'll be good
how does that move make any sense whatsoever
Ronyko23 [#30]Not even better than team solid. Sato wasn't even all that in tier 2.. There is a reason m80 disbanded
LMFAO
0/8 bait
Asto3 [#33]LMFAO
0/8 bait
not even bait. i don't think lev is beating team solid with dgzin
Don't worry about envy. Just give us brazil latam
Semen-1 [#32]how does that move make any sense whatsoever
makes no sense for g2 but it is what it is
Serath [#31]i thought he play flex and they run double duelist on some maps
They not gonna pull drx sadly. And gonna struggle without it
All matches gonna end like aspas +20 & other 4 suffering to fill the roles
Need to see how teams perform. MIBR had both Aspas and Verno even before Champs and still looked pretty ass. Zekken also bit overrated especially if he needs to flex. Same for Vitality need to see how Sayonara performs in tier 1.
Ronyko23 [#36]They not gonna pull drx sadly. And gonna struggle without it
All matches gonna end like aspas +20 & other 4 suffering to fill the roles
bruh if they dont do it they need better coach than fraud
Serath [#38]bruh if they dont do it they need better coach than fraud
kickoff is the most difficult with only 2 team going int.. G2 gonna lock their place. And so many teams gonna push for that no 2
Even missing first int is failure with big names.
patuj [#37]Need to see how teams perform. MIBR had both Aspas and Verno even before Champs and still looked pretty ass. Zekken also bit overrated especially if he needs to flex. Same for Vitality need to see how Sayonara performs in tier 1.
mibr were legit top 3 NA wdym
Ronyko23 [#34]not even bait. i don't think lev is beating team solid with dgzin
Don't worry about envy. Just give us brazil latam
mibr >>> envy (zekken, verno and aspas are way better than those ranked kids, no debate here)
furia =< envy (but without canezerra and ion, furia’s better)
loud > envy (lukxo 1v5s the whole envy roster)
kru > envy (less and silentzz solo them)
lev > envy (blowz, spike and sato are insanely better than everyone on envy)
tier 1 ain’t tier 2, it’s not gonna be as easy as you think lil bro
Ronyko23 [#39]kickoff is the most difficult with only 2 team going int.. G2 gonna lock their place. And so many teams gonna push for that no 2
Even missing first int is failure with big names.
LEV and MIBR
patuj [#37]Need to see how teams perform. MIBR had both Aspas and Verno even before Champs and still looked pretty ass. Zekken also bit overrated especially if he needs to flex. Same for Vitality need to see how Sayonara performs in tier 1.
MIBR got TOP 3 Americas even with NZR on the team.
They were ass only in Stage 2.
wNoble [#40]mibr were legit top 3 NA wdym
top 3 na when they failed to make playoffs. Got lucky with different rules
but mibr gonna manage top 3 unless its a big choke
Serath [#31]i thought he play flex and they run double duelist on some maps
ronyko23 casually spreading info he doesn’t even know.
zekken’s gonna be the 2nd duelist on some maps and a controller on others, on bind for example mibr runs two duelists, they might even do that on more maps now with zekken joining.
mazino’s gonna be the flex, playing either the second initiator or controller depending on the comp.
no role issues here. fr0d’s a world champion coach, he knows how to build and manage a team and its roles.
Ronyko23 [#39]kickoff is the most difficult with only 2 team going int.. G2 gonna lock their place. And so many teams gonna push for that no 2
Even missing first int is failure with big names.
bro we are done with 8 team events, they changed it to 12 teams for first masters
wNoble [#40]mibr were legit top 3 NA wdym
Yeah and looked horrible in Toronto and after didnt even qualify for Americas playoffs... teams like G2 and SEN were so ahead of them for whole year.
catNmouse [#46]bro we are done with 8 team events, they changed it to 12 teams for first masters
Then there is def hope. i feel sen gonna manage to stay relevant in region & sneak in
Asto3 [#45]ronyko23 casually spreading info he doesn’t even know.
zekken’s gonna be the 2nd duelist on some maps and a controller on others, on bind for example mibr runs two duelists, they might even do that on more maps now with zekken joining.
mazino’s gonna be the flex, playing either the second initiator or controller depending on the comp.
no role issues here. fr0d’s a world champion coach, he knows how to build and manage a team and its roles.
don't give me world champion coach bullshit.. it never ends well for champs winning coaches
Frod won in 2022
Ronyko23 [#50]don't give me world champion coach bullshit.. it never ends well for champs winning coaches
Frod won in 2022
if you deny that fr0d’s been an elite coach since 2022, you’re just straight up dumb.
patuj [#47]Yeah and looked horrible in Toronto and after didnt even qualify for Americas playoffs... teams like G2 and SEN were so ahead of them for whole year.
Artzin, xenom and cortezia…
Ronyko23 [#34]not even bait. i don't think lev is beating team solid with dgzin
Don't worry about envy. Just give us brazil latam
envy is not doing shit in tier 1 without canezerra and ion
LouBag [#52]if youre going to build a super team why have tex and maznio?
Because of the synergy, if you pick 5 guys with an insane aim but that don't likes each other, it collapses. That's why some "superteams" fails so hard.
glittering_yard [#53]Artzin, xenom and cortezia…
Throughout year they've put similar performances to Verno. All 4 are pretty equal outside of Aspas for most part. Cortezia even had some standout games.
GattoVLR [#55]Because of the synergy, if you pick 5 guys with an insane aim but that don't likes each other, it collapses. That's why some "superteams" fails so hard.
mazino is fine but t0x is not good
cortezia to t0x is just stupid
patuj [#56]Throughout year they've put similar performances to Verno. All 4 are pretty equal outside of Aspas for most part. Cortezia even had some standout games.
Artzin was in MIBR 2024, known bottom feeders
Xenom was not even playing Valorant for months, he was going to CS, he had high stats in a >shit tier 2 brazilian team<, he had a life game on tryouts where he dropped 34 on Brimstone Bind and then got on the team because of that. (This mf never had a performance like that in VCT 25 and his comms are terrible, watch mibr vlogs)
Cortezia was similar to xenom, high stats in a shit brazilian tier 2 team, he was also giving up on his dream and was going to just study and go to college.
The new team has Zekken (Masters MVP), Mazino (VCT Americas Finals MVP), tex. The circumstances are not really comparable, this MIBR 25 roster was not supposed to exist in a normal world where a team doesnt get kicked out of VCT
glittering_yard [#58]Artzin was in MIBR 2024, known bottom feeders
Xenom was not even playing Valorant for months, he was going to CS, he had high stats in a >shit tier 2 brazilian team<, he had a life game on tryouts where he dropped 34 on Brimstone Bind and then got on the team because of that. (This mf never had a performance like that in VCT 25 and his comms are terrible, watch mibr vlogs)
Cortezia was similar to xenom, high stats in a shit brazilian tier 2 team, he was also giving up on his dream and was going to just study and go to college.
The new team has Zekken (Masters MVP), Mazino (VCT Americas Finals MVP), tex. The circumstances are not really comparable, this MIBR 25 roster was not supposed to exist in a normal world where a team doesnt get kicked out of VCT
going from goatezia to t0x is not comparable
wNoble [#57]mazino is fine but t0x is not good
cortezia to t0x is just stupid
I agree, but who knows what happened at backstage... But Cortezia clears Tex, no doubt
wNoble [#59]going from goatezia to t0x is not comparable
Tex has achieved more than cortezia, it is what it is
I have the feeling that aspas thinks the same. In the livestream that he made when he played with tex, there was a chatter who said something among the lines of:
"cortezia is way better than tex"
He got permanently banned, and then aspas said:
"I just banned a guy who said an atrocity lol"
glittering_yard [#61]Tex has achieved more than cortezia, it is what it is
I have the feeling that aspas thinks the same. In the livestream that he made when he played with tex, there was a chatter who said something among the lines of:
"cortezia is way better than tex"
He got permanently banned, and then aspas said:
"I just banned a guy who said an atrocity lol"
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CARALHO se for verdade isso q tu falou nois vem pras cabeça ano q vem, se com esse ensopado de bagres nois quase meteu um 2x0 no melhor time do mundo imagina ano q vem.
glittering_yard [#61]Tex has achieved more than cortezia, it is what it is
I have the feeling that aspas thinks the same. In the livestream that he made when he played with tex, there was a chatter who said something among the lines of:
"cortezia is way better than tex"
He got permanently banned, and then aspas said:
"I just banned a guy who said an atrocity lol"
there was a rumor that cortezia has beef with aspas
but u can say that this yr cortezia was very impressive as a rookie
and he was one of the best senti in na with skuba and lukxo
wNoble [#63]there was a rumor that cortezia has beef with aspas
but u can say that this yr cortezia was very impressive as a rookie
and he was one of the best senti in na with skuba and lukxo
He had his moments, statistically he had the same numbers of xenom this year: 0.97
I know stats dont tell the full story, but everyone is just recency biased by the Champs performance where MIBR was playing great (despite not winning clutches)
There were many series and maps where cortezia was crypto throwing, he was very inconsistent, but everyone prefers to forget that because we all like him as a person
(tex was also like that in LEV, im not saying tex is good, but cortezia was not the next Less)
Yanko [#3]Mibr on paper is way better stop it
LoL. This take will age so well im sure 🤣🤣🤣
Hyssopus1 [#62]KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
CARALHO se for verdade isso q tu falou nois vem pras cabeça ano q vem, se com esse ensopado de bagres nois quase meteu um 2x0 no melhor time do mundo imagina ano q vem.
Acho que eles se gostam como pessoas normalmente e o cortez respeita muito o aspas, mas como jogador eu tenho minhas duvidas em relação a percepção do aspas sobre o cortez, creio que ele nao tem a mesma percepção da comunidade sobre o senhor mandioca
Tem aquele clipe de um vlog do MIBR onde o aspas fala "Vem cá cortez, DESSA VEZ você jogou >namoral<", ou aquele clipe que foi deletado da naxy (jogadora do GC aposentada a anos) dando dica pro cortez jogar melhor de sentinela. São clipes engraçadinhos só, mas eu nunca vi uma satisfação real do aspas em relação a MIBR 2025
Até na Leviatán teve o aspas falando pro >C0M< que ele amassou e batendo palmas com um sorrisão. Nunca vi isso em nenhum momento do MIBR
glittering_yard [#67]Acho que eles se gostam como pessoas normalmente e o cortez respeita muito o aspas, mas como jogador eu tenho minhas duvidas em relação a percepção do aspas sobre o cortez, creio que ele nao tem a mesma percepção da comunidade sobre o senhor mandioca
Tem aquele clipe de um vlog do MIBR onde o aspas fala "Vem cá cortez, DESSA VEZ você jogou >namoral<", ou aquele clipe que foi deletado da naxy (jogadora do GC aposentada a anos) dando dica pro cortez jogar melhor de sentinela. São clipes engraçadinhos só, mas eu nunca vi uma satisfação real do aspas em relação a MIBR 2025
Até na Leviatán teve o aspas falando pro >C0M< que ele amassou e batendo palmas com um sorrisão. Nunca vi isso em nenhum momento do MIBR
É q aquilo a régua do Aspas é mt alta não é farmar 1 stats ou ficar +10 q significa q tu jogou bem, contra a NRG mesmo Cortezia ficou +14 mas no momento mais importante do jogo ele entregou junto com o Xenom, são esses pequenos detalhes q impede de um time ser campeão.
glittering_yard [#64]He had his moments, statistically he had the same numbers of xenom this year: 0.97
I know stats dont tell the full story, but everyone is just recency biased by the Champs performance where MIBR was playing great (despite not winning clutches)
There were many series and maps where cortezia was crypto throwing, he was very inconsistent, but everyone prefers to forget that because we all like him as a person
(tex was also like that in LEV, im not saying tex is good, but cortezia was not the next Less)
tex was \ the worst player on his team this season
even with demon1 and rossy he was still mid
he has a couple life games sometimes but in general
we need a senti that can hold his own and single handedly win us impossible rounds
and with the new changes chamber/veto/ is gonnna be meta and tex is horrible on it
glittering_yard [#61]Tex has achieved more than cortezia, it is what it is
I have the feeling that aspas thinks the same. In the livestream that he made when he played with tex, there was a chatter who said something among the lines of:
"cortezia is way better than tex"
He got permanently banned, and then aspas said:
"I just banned a guy who said an atrocity lol"
is this true? lmfao
MIBR vs VIT, giving overalls
Aspas 98 OVR - Derke 96 OVR
Verno 88 OVR - Jamppi 85 OVR
Zekken 94 OVR - PROFEK 83 OVR
Tex 80 OVR - Sayonara 87 OVR
Mazino 84 OVR - Chronicle 88 OVR
88.8 OVR compared to 87.8 OVR
MIBR better
catNmouse [#54]envy is not doing shit in tier 1 without canezerra and ion
egg & poppin are our best player in ascension..
Cane is legit worst.. Blessing in disguise Team is still doing great. Any two solid t1 caliber players gonna fill their spot no worries
tensa6251 [#71]MIBR vs VIT, giving overalls
Aspas 98 OVR - Derke 96 OVR
Verno 88 OVR - Jamppi 85 OVR
Zekken 94 OVR - PROFEK 83 OVR
Tex 80 OVR - Sayonara 87 OVR
Mazino 84 OVR - Chronicle 88 OVR
88.8 OVR compared to 87.8 OVR
MIBR better
tex 80? LOOL give that guy 67 max
and chron is atleast a 90
wNoble [#73]tex 80? LOOL give that guy 67 max
and chron is atleast a 90
thinking about 2024 tex he was pretty good.. but if 2025 then closer to mid 70s
tensa6251 [#74]thinking about 2024 tex he was pretty good.. but if 2025 then closer to mid 70s
even in 2024 he wasnt even a top 10 player
wNoble [#69]tex was \ the worst player on his team this season
even with demon1 and rossy he was still mid
he has a couple life games sometimes but in general
we need a senti that can hold his own and single handedly win us impossible rounds
and with the new changes chamber/veto/ is gonnna be meta and tex is horrible on it
Yeah, the tex possible signing seems to be related to outside of the game impact and not recent performance, his relationship with aspas and mazino, he is good guy, and nandoshow also said that people around the "aspas-circle" really like tex, agency, sponsors...
But i dont think its the end of the world if they get tex, only because we probably already have an aspas-zekken-verno core thats very strong already
I was more interested in shyy, he is also friends with aspas and mazino and has a very high ceiling, but they said he doesnt speak english so idk
I think shyy fits this description at his peak:
we need a senti that can hold his own and single handedly win us impossible rounds
and with the new changes chamber/veto/ is gonnna be meta and tex is horrible on it
wNoble [#75]even in 2024 he wasnt even a top 10 player
i never said he was
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