best initiators of all time (no bias)

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oness

Trexx
Reins
Crashies
Trent
Sacy
Caunazin
Leo (got the fuck out very quick)
C0M

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9wntr

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trent > crashies

#4

oness

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no , zero trophies

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Galactc

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Then how are trexx and riens at the top?

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BombaClaat

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Wow you caught him

#19

oness

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Trexx - future champs Winner ( he's the top rated player at champs I'm from the future)
Reins - won EWC

#37

9wntr

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trexx is tuff but re0n isnt above trent either

#38

CaxTonYT

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stop ragebaiting riens beats trent ANY day of the week

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9wntr

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https://www.vlr.gg/475902/sentinels-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-gf
trent? trent is who?

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CaxTonYT

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tejo merchant, has been bottom 2 ( 2 times 3rd ) consistently last few matches except against f0r00

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9wntr

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https://www.vlr.gg/player/15500/trent/?timespan=all

#55

JonahPork

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Check Toronto stats

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Yistyy

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Ewc isnt even a real tournament

#51

oness

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🤓🤓🤓🤓 akshually stfu

#52

Yistyy

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Dude if we're counting ewc then what's stopping us from counting sen city? Like bro it's not a riot hosted event.

#53

oness

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bait or mental retardation? comparing EWC to fkin sen city

#56

Yistyy

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They're both shitty mickey mouse tournaments. I think it's a good comparison.

#57

oness

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0/8

#3

Carbonara

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flair and flag bias

#5

babysasuke

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trexx and reins at 1 and 2

stopped reading, braindamaged ranking

#6

oness

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babysasuke talking about brain damage 😂

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EternalXera

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I mean sometimes when someone like him calls you out, you just have to sit back and reflect

#49

31Raven

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game recognises game

#61

Opleiksii

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Riens oat > trent oat btw. His champs seoul perf > trent

#8

egann

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i'm nowhere to be seen

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ticua07

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yeah

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SleepingSnorlax

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This is bad overall dude I am trexx glazer as well but don’t be delusional

#10

luhuigarten

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trent too high he's done nothing to be ranked this highly one life split on a broken agent doesnt make you a top 4 ini oat lol

#13

pkkkk

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crashies and sacy should be higher

#20

oness

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no. I gave them the courtesy to be on the list considering they got carried by their teammates

#39

CaxTonYT

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are we deadass? sacy i can understand but crashies on no.2 is already really/too high. We're talking oat leo atleast should be above

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pkkkk

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whoops

#14

catNmouse

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Stopped reading at 1. trexx

#41

dimmed

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He's really the only one that matters

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KINGMANNY42

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you names the top 8 100% but fucked up the numbers

#16

CasperLuna

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cUm sneak

#18

oness

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noone's better than him besides the one on the list.

#21

Warlordwibz

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Trexx only made Copenhagen 22, champs 24 and Bangkok 25….. ALL TIME btw.

#23

oness

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Bad team.
He was the top rated player at Champs last year. He WILL be the goat initiator after this year champs easily

#22

Ducatiti

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Sacy because Masters & Champs winner. Leo close second.

#24

oness

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Highest I can put him is above trent, he got carried hard by his teammates ngl.
Also stop overrating Leo

#25

LowGun

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he got carried hard by his teammates ngl.

He carried the mental of that team and kept them in check. The guy who mid rounded that much got carried?
bro ONLY looks at stats and cares about stats only. Good job man lol.

And trex ain't close to leo btw. Leo hasn't played in a year and I would still put him above trexx.

#28

oness

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ur too deep in that leo propaganda idk what to tell you.
That guy legit has a cult that workships him

#33

LowGun

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I'm not even a leo fan and sure he does have a lot of bandwagon fans.

Still your take on sacy is shit coz you like a stat padder.

#29

catNmouse

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even if he did get “carried” on sen, he was arguably their 2nd best player in champions 2022 and put on a godlike performance on ascent to take the champions trophy

not to mention he won his 2nd trophy on a foreign team that doesn’t speak his main language while contributing so much to make sure his teammates are in great shape, truly a selfless player and in OAT conversation easily top 4. stats watchers won’t realize this

#26

glittering_yard

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W for putting cauanzin > Leo

Prime cauanzin was WAY more impactful, Leo was just sitting at the back of the pack with his 0.00000002 First Death per Round while Derke and Alfajer did all the heavy work

#27

LowGun

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I'm not even a leo glazer but saying only derke and alfa did the heavy work is kinda mad.

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glittering_yard

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Leo did work, he is good, but the HEAVY work was all Alfa and Derke, Leo was just bound to have high stats because of the system and the way he plays his role. I remember all the LOUD vs Fnatic games and i always barely noticed Leo, all the true impact came from Alfa and Derke

It still pains me to know that some people put Leo over Alfajer in top 10 lists

#31

Galactc

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I'm a cauazin glazer but this is just too much

#34

oness

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finally a ball knower among a crowd of sheep. W

#40

Srathens1

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Brother LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

#47

glittering_yard

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This hypothetical mythical creature Leo agenda shall not prevail, the truth about cauanzin > Leo NEEDS to be spread

#59

oness

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I'm with you

#65

glittering_yard

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Thank you my brother,

The truth always wins in the end and there will be no Commend video, Platoon stat slop, Platchat rant or FNC Mini biased documentary to save Leo's career and snuck him into top 5 lists

#66

oness

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Caunazin should've won lock in let's be honest which stops him from getting the glaze he deserves.
He was way more impactful than Leo and cleared him the last 2 games they played.

#30

Botfragger9000

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I'm sorry, but of all time, Sacy is 3 at the lowest. This dude carried on a Chronicle/Tenz level at this role for years

#32

sw4gman

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LOL trent meet potential man with zero int. trophies

#36

Minuzami

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Invy

#46

kaezzz

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HOLY, your list is terrifying

#50

oness

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terrifyingly good

#54

bombarillo

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clearly not biased

#58

cloudberry

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On-release Tejo
On-release Fade
Peak Skye

#60

shrike-

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sacy
leo
crashies
c0m
trent

initiators are hard to rank

#62

Opleiksii

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idk but all i know is riens oat > trent oat

#63

UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe

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Actually, if you ignore Trexx, it’s a good list

#64

oness

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trexx clears every1 on the list what u on

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askrial

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6/8 i actually got a bit mad reading this