Sao Paolo clears all of these cities in that context lets be real lol

Thanks for sharing!

One of those dudes that is a winner, tangibly and with his intangibles. Everyone has said hes a great teammate, calm/chill vibes, puts the work in etc. Qualities for success in just about any Sports/Esports/Work environment

What stats do you guys all see as the most defining? Which stats encompass all roles to paint a picture of a players impact best (even if stats can't which get closest)?

Ya'll think its Rating? ACS/KD/ADR? KAST seems like a pretty telling stat. Which stats do ya'll look at first to determine a players impact?

Hard to say, I liked FNS's calling better for his shorter time of dominance (Optic days he was IGLing with innovation not seen yet, Saadhak should be mentioned here for that too) but Boaster has consistently had some variance in his roster and his teams have been top tier most years.

However, that talent has seemed INSANE, so how much is it his calling vs. his players is still a question to me fs.

Also, where does the coach come into this equation, its not always obvious on whether the coach's instructions lead to proper calling/wins/strategy or if it is the IGLs. There are closer to obvious observations like midrounding/reads, but what to do with that could be either. 'Having the read' is pretty much all in the lobby, IGL or players, but what you do with that read could be drilled/from org, or from IGL or both.

TLDR: Basically, hard to tell their impact without having full team context.

Best player OAT candidates, aren't everyone. You implied a different standard, we should probably stick to best igl of all time for Boasty. He is at best, a serviceable fragger, and at worst, well yk, plenty of people go on about it.

If IGLing is a huge factor, then you have to put Valyn near the top too, which I do.

i mean his name is sick thats about where it stops

xenom is a great player bro stop

He can take on both of these tasks because he doesn't trouble himself with what us humans call 'emotions'

just a point of discussion homie

solid take

he definitely is, but they don't always use him that way, and i think theres an argument to be had it could be a waste to put him in more likely one and dones vs 'baiting' which as the best aimer isn't bad. don't disagree with your take at all though

What you guys think? I feel like alot of his play would be better on this agent, if he had another duelist on the team with him.

He's just too good at shooting, gives him an easier hard exit, still with the duelist picks in his back pocket.

Acceptable to hard disagree here/could be a dumb and wild take

I think he makes the broadcast uncomfortable, not a fan at all.

What you guys think?

Stop acting like RRQ>Heretics lol

We could see no APAC teams after today.. After all the banter would be interesting to only see EMEA + Americas left as top 4.

Yesterday was one of the most exciting set of matches, in my opinion, I've ever seen. There's definitely been some banger matches this Champs, could be contending for one of the best to some.

I think it will be hard to live up to the excitement of yesterday, but I hope it does. I'm excited, how about you guys?

Also like, if you're the best aimer on your team, baiting is the smart move as you'll use your body better than they will. Nobody is gonna let the offensive lineman throw the ball, that job is for the QB

Bro's just mad that NA/South NA/Americas is proving they are the best region. Anger is part of denial, but once you reach acceptance it will get easier

Since he stopped IGLing, dude has been a top tier player.

Respect to Artzin

MIBR's form is way better than any Aspas team since Loud. This is a different movie, we'll see if it ends the same

DRX just showed me what that really means. Wow what a disaster

Title. 4-5 Rounds that G2 threw. 3 rounds losing 5v3? No comms for Something lurk? JoshRT outcoached Aleks/Mini..

This was G2's chance to stay in uppers and they sold

When you're the best or great, you get a lot of both.

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I'll lead off with, I havent watched THAT many Challengers matches this split. I'm just curious though, people were saying Reduxx is the next huge star in VCT, but looking at his stats, doesn't look that insane to me. Is this just a team issue? Does the eye test here > stats?

What do you guys think of Reduxx as a player, maybe include his player comparisons, ceiling, floor, current?

I'm sorry, but of all time, Sacy is 3 at the lowest. This dude carried on a Chronicle/Tenz level at this role for years

He is a governor bro he does what he wants

100t fix -
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Was just re-watching the Optic games of Champs 2022, FNS fragged, clutch asf.

What happened to this between 2022-2024?

Most of Boostio's games are stinkers, right above Boaster level k/d expectancy, with lesser igling imo.

Dude was just cutting up a line between rounds i dont see a problem here

Boaster is awesome, but chill is the wrong word for him. Mada most chill Eeiu close 2nd

She makes me think of Doris Burke for the NBA

kaajak needs to be less obvious about his walls, they gonna check him pc

TBD will win this game

Don't act like this is a punishment or something

1. Americas
2. China (Wolves Carrying)
   3/4. Tied names of regions not worth mentioning

never pick up a guy that slanders yay

Your number 1 seed getting farmed, and this is the elite region?

BLG is on a plane rn

I'll say PRX, fun playstyle, Forsaken is as wholesome as it comes, the rest of the team is not far behind in likeability

I don't disagree, but im only making the point that it makes him not 'lovable' to me. Which was the topic of this thread

Also he shows no respect for other players, remember what he said about aspas. Personally I love the rivalry but it doesnt make him lovable imo

Texture is pretty close to the best player in the world, but dude is a whiny bby how is he lovable

Maybe it was a year or 2 ago, people were talking about him as if he's destined to be the goat. Seems to me he is inconsistent at best, but I wanna say he's super mid, thoughts?

SEN seems to let lurkers on offense get so much value.. Their defense on several maps seem ass, or am i trippin

Idk that EG overperformed. With how they played in the playoffs against G2/Others. I would say they underperformed during the regular season.

Remember what everyone said when Crashies was lobbed from NRG? Look at NRG now, and look at Crashies now. Seems like the org was the problem.

Dudes 11th for the entirety of this EMEA split, in net rating. Provides stellar util, and his team seems to be clicking as Fnatic has been finding its form again.

Everyone talking about the coach, I think Boostio needs to be replaced, imo atleast.