I can’t understand why Vitality doesn’t put Less on Viper. You have the best Viper player to ever play the game on your roster, and yet you make him play Cypher, his weakest sentine, on 90% of the maps. Even LOUD in 2022/23 would adjust its comps to fit Less’ playstyle, despite having players far more versatile than Vitality’s current roster. What makes it even more absurd is that Viper is a very viable pick in the current meta. Several Chinese teams, as well as Gen.G, have successfully transitioned into Viper-heavy compositions. So why is Vitality refusing to make the obvious move?
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haven I could see but ascent is not viper pilled, realistically him on cypher is fine what im worried about is kovaq being able to preform in more important matches
Wolfed [#2]"best viper ever" when boaster exists
you deserve to get hanged on top of the cristo de brasil from your testicles with a hook after saying this bullshit
Uncleben [#7]Less the better viper, nats is the greater viper imo
Nats invented and inspired a lot of viper/senti players and was a beast at it too so he’s the GOAT, but put them on equal level teams and I’ll back less to play better (outside of 2021)
nats better.
MrHyphon [#5]“Best viper ever” when Tuyz exists
Ngl early 2024 Tuyz Viper was kinda sexy
termtermtermterm [#11]nats better.
Idk man, nats peak was in 2021 which was a less developed state of the game and Less’s peak from 2022-early 2024 was unbelievable. Even this year until vit fell off you could argue less was better.
uwukitten [#8]"the weakest sentinel"??
Less took a while to pick up cypher at a high level so people assume he's bad at cypher but he obviously isnt he just put up 40 in 2 maps on cypher so who knows what he's talking about
termtermtermterm [#6]haven I could see but ascent is not viper pilled, realistically him on cypher is fine what im worried about is kovaq being able to preform in more important matches
I agree that Viper isnt very viable on ascent but i think Vitality could still play viper on maps like sunset and haven and put KovaQ on sentinel instead of his shit iso
I_LOVE_LESS [#16]Less took a while to pick up cypher at a high level so people assume he's bad at cypher but he obviously isnt he just put up 40 in 2 maps on cypher so who knows what he's talking about
I swear cypher used to be his best agent actually until he joined vitality
Uncleben [#15]Idk man, nats peak was in 2021 which was a less developed state of the game and Less’s peak from 2022-early 2024 was unbelievable. Even this year until vit fell off you could argue less was better.
the 2022-2024 Less form erasure has been insane people just act like he wasnt that guy when he so clearly was (and still is)
Even on Ascent, is so hard to just copy Fnatic's comp? Like i dont understand
Uncleben [#15]Idk man, nats peak was in 2021 which was a less developed state of the game and Less’s peak from 2022-early 2024 was unbelievable. Even this year until vit fell off you could argue less was better.
when WE win champs gyats will show you who is the better viper... also nats was consistently insane up until last year where he was put on a gimmick roster with m0st0c and 0nz0 and now hes back asf.
Uncleben [#18]I swear cypher used to be his best agent actually until he joined vitality
his viper and kj were his best at LOUD's peak in 2022-2023 but he has been a solid cypher player for over a year
I_LOVE_LESS [#19]the 2022-2024 Less form erasure has been insane people just act like he wasnt that guy when he so clearly was (and still is)
He onetricked viper from kickoff to Madrid and literally topped every stat metric at both tournaments, the erasure is insane
Thats ignoring him putting up Leo-esque numbers at lock-in and Aspas numbers at champs 23 AND being LOUD’s best player in playoffs at champs 22
nitzuvlr [#17]I agree that Viper isnt very viable on ascent but i think Vitality could still play viper on maps like sunset and haven and put KovaQ on sentinel instead of his shit iso
nah realistically they should have won haven and made it to lotus where he would prolly go to viper and then they have a real shot, but like they honestly could have 2-0'd if they didnt run out of steam.
Rakshy [#20]Even on Ascent, is so hard to just copy Fnatic's comp? Like i dont understand
We all want Less on Chamber since 2022 Champs final, real ones know
I_LOVE_LESS [#22]his viper and kj were his best at LOUD's peak in 2022-2023 but he has been a solid cypher player for over a year
I was talking by stats, by impact I’d say viper has always been his best agent
I just remember him pulling out cypher vs optic on breeze and having so much impact as a lurker
Uncleben [#23]He onetricked viper from kickoff to Madrid and literally topped every stat metric at both tournaments, the erasure is insane
Thats ignoring him putting up Leo-esque numbers at lock-in and Aspas numbers at champs 23 AND being LOUD’s best player in playoffs at champs 22
the most memorable carry job for me was when he dragged 2024 loud to madrid by going 41-16 against g2 with a 20-5 closeout map
koromast [#9]you deserve to get hanged on top of the cristo de brasil from your testicles with a hook after saying this bullshit
tf
I_LOVE_LESS [#27]the most memorable carry job for me was when he dragged 2024 loud to madrid by going 41-16 against g2 with a 20-5 closeout map
Icl his performance in lock-in grand finals is my personal favorite, the performances on split and lotus was ridiculous and at the time Aspas was getting all the credit
Uncleben [#29]Icl his performance in lock-in grand finals is my personal favorite, the performances on split and lotus was ridiculous and at the time Aspas was getting all the credit
people always glazed aspas when Less was the true superstar, just consistent amazing fragging plus he revolutionized how people move during gunfights
I_LOVE_LESS [#30]people always glazed aspas when Less was the true superstar, just consistent amazing fragging plus he revolutionized how people move during gunfights
He was their best player in internationals while Aspas carried regionally imo
It’s kinda sad he needed Aspas to leave (leading to loud falloff) to actually get credit, the bias people have for duelist players is insane (same thing with chichoo and kk)
2023 loud ok, but in 2022 they used cypher a lot and it was favorite to see less on
Wolfed [#2]"best viper ever" when boaster exists
I will correct you when 'chronicle exist'
Miyuky [#25]We all want Less on Chamber since 2022 Champs final, real ones know
He would play Vyse, since he openly says that he hated playing Chamber
Uncleben [#15]Idk man, nats peak was in 2021 which was a less developed state of the game and Less’s peak from 2022-early 2024 was unbelievable. Even this year until vit fell off you could argue less was better.
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