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Valorant is dead

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#1
mattgg2015

It’s pretty clear that most pros view CS above Valorant, and if the opportunity to leave to the better esport arises, they will take it

Nitro isn’t the last, jamppi or Nivera might be next

Valorant just has a worse esports scene and champions won’t have good viewership

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ShadowisBAD
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common mattgg2015 L

#18
Olofboost
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How is it L
nitr0 and draken understood they won't play any Valorant games until February (thanks Rito for this system)
Ofc it's better to switch to CS where there is a good tournament every month

Pros want to compete and win, they don't want to get paid for scrimming

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ShadowisBAD
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u 1head , this is JUST the first year , in 2022 riot will analyse what they couldve done better in 2021 and put it in 2022 ,

#20
Olofboost
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Someone already leaked the 2022 system and it's gonna be the same as 2021, 3 Masters, LCQ, Champions, long breaks in between them without any games
Guess nothing will change after all
Well in 2023 IT WILL DEFINITELY GET BETTER YEAH RIGHT

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ShadowisBAD
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bro im having a stroke talking to u

#23
Olofboost
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Ironic

#31
Giannero
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if you get downfragged when talking to Shadow, then maybe you're going a bit too far with the bullshit

#32
Thunder1
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True

#46
NABOT
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Nice logic lmao the only reason he’s getting downfragged is because he’s not sucking riots dick like you guys do on vlr

#53
ShadowisBAD
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bro?? we dont suck riots dick either , do u see the AMOUNT of ppl hating riot when the format drops or new agent / map drops?

#51
ShadowisBAD
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ouch 😂😂🤣 ,is that a compliment to me or ?

#57
Giannero
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It kind of is

#26
elayaCL
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source: trust me bro?

#29
Thunder1
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Yeah my dad work at riot and he leaked it

#36
SnooTangerines
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Imagine Shadow getting upvotes and you getting downvoted.

if that happens, it is a sign that you have a trash take and maybe keep your opinion to yourself instead of talking further.

#39
MilanTheMyth
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link source

#59
Supr3meGucci
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LMAO, there's even less international tournaments. fucking joke

#63
Easy_for_MWZERA
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Maybe other organizations will have time to make their own tournaments between riot's. This would be good right?

#56
pokedyo
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don't know why people think this Is a bad take

#62
AslanP
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I agree with olofboost opinion.next year we have only 2 masters lcq and champs. Small orgs who don’t qualify like BBl or indian teams have nothing to do.

#64
cheeeeze
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he grandstanding, u right valo is dogsht scene actually paid to scrim

#50
Glycoroldas
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#21
Arisqq
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ur braindead fam

#28
Mememeister1
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Ultra rare ShadowisBAD W

#35
bandwagondestroyer
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finally he didnt spawn with 2 downvotes, but 28 upvotes damn

#43
tRONGOD
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Spawn with 2 downvotes OmegaLuL xD

#54
ciro
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ShadowidBAD getting 47 upvotes. My eyes must be fooling me, the odds of this W coming from shadow is less than the odds of dream's speedrun being legit

#55
ShadowisBAD
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ive got that soo many times before bro Lmao

#3
Thunder1
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Why are you think csgo people will switch , New player will appear New God tier players will be praised
its a dumb take and both game are different

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Olofboost
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Riot could have made it better by pursuing tournament formats like in R6 or Rocket League, where every team plays fair number of matches per season and nobody is left behind, stronger regions get more attention and weaker regions get exposure too

But they decided to go with open/closed qualifier shit, long months pauses between Stages, 4/3 slots for huge and promising EMEA/NA scenes, basically killing them and every team who didn't make it to LAN

Look what's happening lol, NiP already shifting to Brazil because THEY REALIZED they won't succeed in EMEA, as Riot fuck EMEA over and over again

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BadlandsChugs
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I wouldn't necessarily say emea is the most fucked region overall (just look at oce lol) but youre 100% right that riot has no fucking clue how to structure a tournament circuit, albeit it's probably because it's the first year so they felt that they needed to give some regions more opportunities then they deserve (cough cough brazil cough cough)

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yungbasel
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yeah bro, like the dude above me said. Riot has fucked shit up, but EMEA is definitely NOT the most screwed region haha.

OCE, South Asia to name a few?

#10
yuki_nagat0
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Valorant has been out for just over a year, of course the scene isnt gonna be at the level of CS, the start of valorant has been rough. People seem to forget though that counter strike esports has been around for almost 2 decades. New games will never be as high valued until they earn their scene. its too early still to say with val, since likely the format will change for tournaments in the next years.

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Thunder1
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Yeah and more promising region will be added Oce , Sa ig mean idk about that , But they need to focus more of on there strong region emea and Na and then start expanding on other region

#12
AB
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csgo has brand like esl dreamhack blast for hosting tournaments in regular interval but in terms of valorant it is new game only few small brand are slowly associating for hosting tournaments if those tournaments has higher prize pool and good teams to play both cs and valorant will be balanced

#14
yaiima0
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CS frogs omegalul

#16
ciro
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context?

#24
mattgg2015
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nitr0 going back to CS leaving 100T

#25
ciro
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Why? isnt NA cs dead right now?

#27
AbelF18
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Brother, it's just a rumor, nothing confirmed, he probably stays.

#42
mattgg2015
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two reputable sources (GeorgeCG and RyanAtRBM) confirmed that he was considering it, surely it is a major possibility

#17
Arisqq
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0/8

#30
KyLZi
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People love to overreact. CSGO was a "DEAD GAME" according to people like you. CSGO was and is fine. This WORLD IS ENDING attitude is lame.

Its clear that most pros prefer CS?? - this was your dumbest comment.

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NABOT
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No though, so many pros will admit that the gun play and movement in cs is 1000x better. They’ll also admit that valorant has a better ranked system and less cheaters, but which things are more valuable to a pro scene?

#33
hekzy
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3 tournaments with no crowd and 2 months pauses per year

I wonder how anybody stayed. Idek how the orgs are profiting from this

#34
ruihfjk
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I have never seen so many organizations invested and involved so much in any esports in its first year. So, I'm pretty sure they see something that we can't right now. Orgs and Pros are not even staying they are rebuilding their team for 2022.

#49
hekzy
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It's unsustainable. Especially the NA scene. They all depend on content creation and cringe funny haha 10 min montages. How long can the scene survive on content. That's not a scene, it's a circus

#52
kylocat
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I completely agree. For me it almost feels like the entire valo scene is supported by content creation. I am really afraid of what will happen when the craze is over.

#60
Supr3meGucci
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The moment a new Fortnite or OW 2 comes out the content creation glut will end for Valorant

#37
STARBEAM000
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champions will be watched but only interesting matches. its just the first real major of Val and people will watch it because there wont be something better to do at that time! after champions this game will be useless af and be abused just for content and streaming to farm random viewers who are bored af and might sell their liver to buy a subscription on twitch. i cant see valorant having shit like dreamhack, 99damage tournaments. this game still is in beta too. imaghine not having demo option, a console menu or a desktop friendlist! there must be only trainee devs working for valarant and that might be the reason they need 2+ weeks to fix a single bug! in this damn game you cant even choose a crosshaircolor you want... only option to use some random colors that disappear on every second surface because the game is to vibrant...

#38
yungbasel
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yeah dude relax. The Nitr0 thing if true only really applies to NA CS PROs.

If any current Valorant Pros wanted to return to CS with the insane level of competition to get into an EMEA team, all I would say is goodluck lol.

The difference between someone like Jamppi and nitr0 is Jamppi's pro career in CSGO never really took off, for reasons out of his control.

nitr0 on the other hand was solidified at the top level in NA and the NA scene is WEAK in CSGO, so he could actually find a team.

#41
redlight
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god the valorant doomsday frogs are annoying. nitr0 himself isn't sure if he wants to go back to CS, and this'll only happen if 100T implodes for whatever reason. and this game is a year and a half old, there's still more potential to grow. it's like the CS major scared everyone shitless; buddy CS didn't have a proper major for almost 2 and a half years, of course it would rack in a lot of views. champions, valorant's first major, is around the corner but doomsday frogs think that it won't be able to hold a candle against CS. it might not rack up the same viewership potential, but it will rack up around 1.5-1.8 million, which is more than enough to solidify valorant esports as the next big thing.

#44
JettEnjoyer
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dead in CIS, thnx rito

#48
Easy_for_MWZERA
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nitr0 never delivered. That's the truth. People had high expectations for him since he was tier 1 CS player, but as we all know... Valorant and CS are different games, he could never play as well as he did in CS, he was avarage at best, tried to pick the duelist role after kicking steel and failed to even qualify for champions, now his only hope is to get back to CS and try again, but he will eventually fail and end his carreer miserabily.

#58
MilanTheMyth
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Valorant esports*

#61
StockfishZ
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you guys are acting like this val esport scene has been standing for 10 years, hear me out csgo is big because theyre the best tactical shooter for 6+ years SINCE THERES NO COMPETITORS besides theirself so if you complain shit to valve at 2017 they wouldnt care either since they know at the end of the day theyre still the best fps game. People are so blinded about the fact that a newborn 2.5 years old game is already making the fps esports throne holder in fear

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