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TheHanaNoFuji
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I still believe that everyone should be innocent till proven guilty but even IF she is proven innocent, she'll be branded a rapist for her entire career, people already hate her enough before and now with the allegations? yeah she's cooked

good luck to any trans GC player trying to go to tier 1, flor paved the way but she already bombed the tracks

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Denjisideals
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If this is true, bombed the track is an understatement...

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ItsMeDio
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if this implemented, sinatraa wouldn't be retired

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TheHanaNoFuji
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Denjisideals [#2]

If this is true, bombed the track is an understatement...

she nuked the station ig

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bearmans
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nvm the track, brother might just planted a bomb on the fucking station

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jixk
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good fucking luck to any gc player at all bro set them back to Counter strike global offensive

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ithur
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Rip to her pro player friends too its not good to be branded friends with a rapist even if she was lying to them

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Uncleben
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Innocent until proven guilty is regarding legal repercussions, people are free to treat people how they want in society. Not saying we should be sending hate, but false accusation are extremely rare.

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noSananoLife
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Sinatra got insta banned but watch how Riot will cover up for flor

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Kalina
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l mean, at this point the burden is on her to disprove this, or at least call it into question.

I wouldn’t fine her or put her in jail until there’s more proof, but for believing her or not, at this point I feel like she needs to convince everyone, not the other way around.

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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noSananoLife [#9]

Sinatra got insta banned but watch how Riot will cover up for flor

They're not gonna do that bro stop with the victim complex

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Effluxi
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Kalina [#10]

l mean, at this point the burden is on her to disprove this, or at least call it into question.

I wouldn’t fine her or put her in jail until there’s more proof, but for believing her or not, at this point I feel like she needs to convince everyone, not the other way around.

I mean sort of but the 'evidence' that has been shared is pretty weak so far. They do say they've got stronger stuff too but idk why lead with something this weak if you do?

still gonna wait on shit but, idk. still fucking sucks for the scene either way

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noSananoLife
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GarbanzoEnjoyer [#11]

They're not gonna do that bro stop with the victim complex

I hope they dont do that

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ZANEy
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where were you when sinatraa was getting rapist shouts

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Divine_Thunder
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sinatraa still gets called a rapist even after proven that he isnt guilty

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Galactc
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How tf have all the sinatraa glazers shown up in 1 thread

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TheHanaNoFuji
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Galactc [#16]

How tf have all the sinatraa glazers shown up in 1 thread

how tf even sinatraa still have fans in big 2025 man 😭

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SENfns
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No shes guilty until proven innocent

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w1atrak
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jixk [#6]

good fucking luck to any gc player at all bro set them back to Counter strike global offensive

This game doesn't exist

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TheHanaNoFuji
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SENfns [#18]

No shes guilty until proven innocent

"it's because her dress is too revealing!" ahh take 🥀🥀🥀

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C0nfedant
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w1atrak [#19]

This game doesn't exist

that's the point

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SENfns
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TheHanaNoFuji [#20]

"it's because her dress is too revealing!" ahh take 🥀🥀🥀

if you get accused of something and you just don't prove yourself of not being said something you tend to me guilty of something

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Uncleben [#8]

Innocent until proven guilty is regarding legal repercussions, people are free to treat people how they want in society. Not saying we should be sending hate, but false accusation are extremely rare.

I wouldn't say they're extremely rare. Maybe in eSports it is, but overall I wouldn't say it's crazy rare.

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TheBigBoiPenguin
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SENfns [#22]

if you get accused of something and you just don't prove yourself of not being said something you tend to me guilty of something

there was no proof that anything happened though
how are you supposed to disprove it if theres no proof in the first place

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danii1 [#23]

I wouldn't say they're extremely rare. Maybe in eSports it is, but overall I wouldn't say it's crazy rare.

the % of ppl who report rape are low, of them cases its less than 1% are fake. its so extremely rare

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SENfns
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TheBigBoiPenguin [#24]

there was no proof that anything happened though
how are you supposed to disprove it if theres no proof in the first place

that is true but then again you cant expect people to have cameras everywhere so you cant reasonably prove she got r'd but either way im sure she wouldnt want that footage leaked to the whole world either if she had the proof

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kingop3n
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Divine_Thunder [#15]

sinatraa still gets called a rapist even after proven that he isnt guilty

it wasnt proven he was innocent tho either. the case was just dropped that doesnt mean anything to come to a conclusion tho

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ItsMeDio [#3]

if this implemented, sinatraa wouldn't be retired

tbf he has had trials for some teams but he doesn't want to go pro anyway

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TheBigBoiPenguin
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SENfns [#26]

that is true but then again you cant expect people to have cameras everywhere so you cant reasonably prove she got r'd but either way im sure she wouldnt want that footage leaked to the whole world either if she had the proof

so what is flor supposed to do? best she can say is "i didnt do it" which isnt very convincing
im not trying to take sides or assume what happened, i'm just saying its near impossible for both sides to prove what happened

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TheBigBoiPenguin [#29]

so what is flor supposed to do? best she can say is "i didnt do it" which isnt very convincing
im not trying to take sides or assume what happened, i'm just saying its near impossible for both sides to prove what happened

im sure some texts and stuff can be used to prove certain things tho

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danii1
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kingop3n [#25]

the % of ppl who report rape are low, of them cases its less than 1% are fake. its so extremely rare

I stand corrected

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ArtemisZ083
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danii1 [#23]

I wouldn't say they're extremely rare. Maybe in eSports it is, but overall I wouldn't say it's crazy rare.

The thing with rape allegations is that the person will be sued back for defamation if it is fake, so false accusations are just stupid.

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notallwhowander
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kingop3n [#25]

the % of ppl who report rape are low, of them cases its less than 1% are fake. its so extremely rare

now redo those metrics for internet celebs and I promise that % jumps

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danii1
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ArtemisZ083 [#32]

The thing with rape allegations is that the person will be sued back for defamation if it is fake, so false accusations are just stupid.

Yeah it is stupid but it happens a lot more online

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kingop3n
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notallwhowander [#33]

now redo those metrics for internet celebs and I promise that % jumps

and thats an entirely different situation bcos the amount of ppl that come in contact w a celeb is massively disproportionate to that of the amount a normal person does and the power imbalance is far different. everything with a celeb will increase but the same proportions will stay similar

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