They lost EDG's top form and now we've got
Pacific #3 > CN #1
Pacific #4 > CN #2
RIP China
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"let us show all our strats before main event!, who cares about trophy!"...
gamergirl [#3]these are scrims with casting bro
not even scrims, pre nerf tejo patch
so basically fun match with nice prizepool
ButterflyEffect23 [#2]me when I watch a Mickey Mouse event happening before Masters
Even in Master and Champion, no chinese team outside EDG did great
Even Trace and BLG who made some upset, conpletely destroyed in playoff
1One1 [#7]Even in Master and Champion, no chinese team outside EDG did great
Even Trace and BLG who made some upset, conpletely destroyed in playoff
Trace made playoffs tho, still top 8 in the world combined with EDG top 1 in the world, they did pretty well in champs
DrudaL [#6]not even scrims, pre nerf tejo patch
so basically fun match with nice prizepool
Offseason type shi but with cn APAC , these guys need to enjoy the game LMFAO.
Fluxcicide [#9]Offseason type shi but with cn APAC , these guys need to enjoy the game LMFAO.
xlg coach def got pressured lol
1One1 [#7]Even in Master and Champion, no chinese team outside EDG did great
Even Trace and BLG who made some upset, conpletely destroyed in playoff
Oh so AMER can be one team region, it’s also okay for EMEA to be a 0 team region but when China has one really good team that has the possibility to dominate tournaments the region’s suddenly le bad?
DrudaL [#10]xlg coach def got pressured lol
I mean , they are a first timers facing prx , I am glad that they took icebox to ot idc if they lose as long as they know how to play against an anomaly ( not hating ) it's fine
iongerss [#13]btw memea hasnt won a trophy in TWO years 💔💔💔
Yeah but Korea has :)
As long as one of my teams win
RzqoFoxie [#14]Yeah but Korea has :)
As long as one of my teams win
"yeah but Korea has" shameless koreaboo back at it again lol.
luminescience [#11]Oh so AMER can be one team region, it’s also okay for EMEA to be a 0 team region but when China has one really good team that has the possibility to dominate tournaments the region’s suddenly le bad?
When was EMEA a 0 team region?
Realfacts [#15]"yeah but Korea has" shameless koreaboo back at it again lol.
hes a korean fakeflagger. all his post is about hating non-korean teams in pacific and saying pacific is weak after rrq won lmao
Realfacts [#15]"yeah but Korea has" shameless koreaboo back at it again lol.
Right, cause it's impossible to have parents from two different countries.
Astar [#17]hes a korean fakeflagger. all his post is about hating non-korean teams in pacific and saying pacific is weak after rrq won lmao
Nah bro is legit a bandwagoner of geng especially. Bro actually loves EMEA teams. He is actually a typical koreaboo. Maybe you are right. He might be a kr fake flagger. But he does support EMEA teams too
Nvm bro confessed. Looks like he is a half Korean guy.
RzqoFoxie [#18]Right, cause it's impossible to have parents from two different countries.
Why do you actually hate china so much?
Realfacts [#19]Nah bro is legit a bandwagoner of geng especially. Bro actually loves EMEA teams. He is actually a typical koreaboo. Maybe you are right. He might be a kr fake flagger. But he does support EMEA teams too
Nvm bro confessed. Looks like he is a half Korean guy.
theres a lot of fakeflaggers like him, its gonna be a long list to name all and unironically hes not even a baiter
Realfacts [#20]Why do you actually hate china so much?
I don't hate China. I'm just being realistic
Their qualified teams aren't strong enough to go against EMEA's, Pacific's and Americas qualified teams.
If people get their feelings hurt over every little statement being made, that's their problem
ButterflyEffect23 [#2]me when I watch a Mickey Mouse event happening before Masters
Hmmm
luminescience [#11]Oh so AMER can be one team region, it’s also okay for EMEA to be a 0 team region but when China has one really good team that has the possibility to dominate tournaments the region’s suddenly le bad?
americas is not a 1 team region, don't forget EG almost took G2's playoffs spot. SEN, MIBR could both make a run at toronto.
vitality looked great at bangkok and fnatic and heretics are looking in form for toronto. definitely not a 0 team region
EDG didn't even qualify, your own fans are saying that CN is sending terrible teams. which is why the region is getting criticized as a whole.
RzqoFoxie [#22]I don't hate China. I'm just being realistic
Their qualified teams aren't strong enough to go against EMEA's, Pacific's and Americas qualified teams.
If people get their feelings hurt over every little statement being made, that's their problem
realisticly China official entry into Valorant in July 2023. they behind 3 years from other region and still delivered
they won champs in their first years
There's no way these guys not trying and saving for strat LOL. Playing on china and performed this bad, chinese fans gonna roast these mf.
SleepyBear [#26]realisticly China official entry into Valorant in July 2023. they behind 3 years from other region and still delivered
they won champs in their first years
They aren’t and never were behind by 3 years. The meta changes so much which makes it easier for them to “catch up” and also they’ve had a privilege status with extra tournaments. And the region as a whole is rich. So no that was never the case.
Also the Chinese team that won champs. Was still playing Valorant and attending international events before it officially released in China.
Unincognito [#29]They aren’t and never were behind by 3 years. The meta changes so much which makes it easier for them to “catch up” and also they’ve had a privilege status with extra tournaments. And the region as a whole is rich. So no that was never the case.
Also the Chinese team that won champs. Was still playing Valorant and attending international events before it officially released in China.
me when I conjure up random bullshit excuses to comfort myself at night cuz my team hasnt won shit
tram2684 [#31]me when I conjure up random bullshit excuses to comfort myself at night cuz my team hasnt won shit
Calm down, it’s not that deep.
What part of what I said isn’t true?
This thread is irrelevant anyway, ACL doesn’t mean anything for Toronto lol
Unincognito [#32]Calm down, it’s not that deep.
What part of what I said isn’t true?
This thread is irrelevant anyway, ACL doesn’t mean anything for Toronto lol
Meta changes doesnt change the fact that the region didn't have an official competitive infrastructure where teams can develop. They started 3 years behind everyone else, and they are catching up yes, but it still requires more time. Being a rich region don't mean shit when you haven't had the time to develop domestic talent. Talent development is not solely dependent on money.
tram2684 [#33]Meta changes doesnt change the fact that the region didn't have an official competitive infrastructure where teams can develop. They started 3 years behind everyone else, and they are catching up yes, but it still requires more time. Being a rich region don't mean shit when you haven't had the time to develop domestic talent. Talent development is not solely dependent on money.
Except they’re still not 3 years behind because they don’t have to learn everything that has happened in those 3 years. They only have to learn what is relevant to the current meta. And when it changes, all the other regions have to change too.
And sure, but it sure does help a lot if the region has a lot of money. Not a sole dependent but definitely a big factor. I mean that’s literally one of the biggest complaints with tier 2 in EMEA. That it’s not profitable for the orgs and supported enough by riot with funding.
Unincognito [#16]When was EMEA a 0 team region?
Has been one since end of 2023, move on already
presence [#25]americas is not a 1 team region, don't forget EG almost took G2's playoffs spot. SEN, MIBR could both make a run at toronto.
vitality looked great at bangkok and fnatic and heretics are looking in form for toronto. definitely not a 0 team region
EDG didn't even qualify, your own fans are saying that CN is sending terrible teams. which is why the region is getting criticized as a whole.
It’s always “could” but never “will” lmao, you delusional as fuck if you think a team like mibr whose core consists of all rookies + aspas will do well in Toronto. And no, emea hasn’t won anything since 2023 despite people claiming they look “good” therefore they will remain a 0 region tournament until they actually win something
Unincognito [#35]Except they’re still not 3 years behind because they don’t have to learn everything that has happened in those 3 years. They only have to learn what is relevant to the current meta. And when it changes, all the other regions have to change too.
And sure, but it sure does help a lot if the region has a lot of money. Not a sole dependent but definitely a big factor. I mean that’s literally one of the biggest complaints with tier 2 in EMEA. That it’s not profitable for the orgs and supported enough by riot with funding.
You literally proved my point by bringing up EDG in the last post. EDG was attending official tournaments before many of the other Chinese teams, and they are the only team that has seen significant success on the global stage within the region. This just proves the importance of having access to official tournaments and getting experience with international teams.
Also, I never said money doesn't help. It does, but time also plays a big factor in talent development.
And yes, you don't have to learn everything in the past 3 years, but meta doesn't change how your team plays fundamentally. You're also forgetting that the game wasn't even officially released in China until 2023, which means the talent pool is simply just more constricted.
vhuyn1 [#28]There's no way these guys not trying and saving for strat LOL. Playing on china and performed this bad, chinese fans gonna roast these mf.
im chinese and i dont give a fuck bro
tram2684 [#38]You literally proved my point by bringing up EDG in the last post. EDG was attending official tournaments before many of the other Chinese teams, and they are the only team that has seen significant success on the global stage within the region. This just proves the importance of having access to official tournaments and getting experience with international teams.
Also, I never said money doesn't help. It does, but time also plays a big factor in talent development.
And yes, you don't have to learn everything in the past 3 years, but meta doesn't change how your team plays fundamentally. You're also forgetting that the game wasn't even officially released in China until 2023, which means the talent pool is simply just more constricted.
“You’re also forgetting that the game wasn’t even officially released in China until 2023” I literally mentioned it in my first post that you decided to jump into the conversation by insulting me lol.
Like I said, it’s not that deep and I don’t care enough about this thread to continue. Good luck with Toronto… oh wait…
Unincognito [#40]“You’re also forgetting that the game wasn’t even officially released in China until 2023” I literally mentioned it in my first post that you decided to jump into the conversation by insulting me lol.
Like I said, it’s not that deep and I don’t care enough about this thread to continue. Good luck with Toronto… oh wait…
Forgot you mentioned it cuz of the terrible conclusion you came to even with that knowledge my bad.
And saying its not that deep after responding to me twice is crazy work, bro trying to be nonchalant and shit cuz bro realized his argument was ass. gl w winning a trophy bro
tram2684 [#42]Forgot you mentioned it cuz of the terrible conclusion you came to even with that knowledge my bad.
And saying its not that deep after responding to me twice is crazy work, bro trying to be nonchalant and shit cuz bro realized his argument was ass. gl w winning a trophy bro
No I said it’s not that deep because of how you started the discussion. It’s very obvious when you start like that what you’re actually trying to get out of it. I still stand by my argument coz you haven’t proven me wrong I just don’t want to continue it with you.
Notbaka [#23]nah XLG IS GOOD HAPPYWEI ISNT PLAYING FOR NOW
and patmen isn't playing for prx
lucidity0000 [#34]Trying by not playing with their main rosters
Nah i realized these aren't for the ewc i thought they were
Unincognito [#43]No I said it’s not that deep because of how you started the discussion. It’s very obvious when you start like that what you’re actually trying to get out of it. I still stand by my argument coz you haven’t proven me wrong I just don’t want to continue it with you.
bro if you dont wanna continue stop responding holy shit its not even funny anymore
tram2684 [#46]bro if you dont wanna continue stop responding holy shit its not even funny anymore
0/8 bro u lost LOOOL 🤣
FrostTree187 [#44]and patmen isn't playing for prx
patmen is good dont get me wrong but happywei is miles ahead he is called the aim demon in china for a reason
KaedeTsuneta [#49]Patmen is bad
Patmen on icebox will make it way easier for prx
luminescience [#36]Has been one since end of 2023, move on already
Ah I see your logic so AMER was a -11 region for the better half of 2024?
FNC > G2
TH > LEV + SEN
That’s sound logic actually I like that well done.
presence [#25]americas is not a 1 team region, don't forget EG almost took G2's playoffs spot. SEN, MIBR could both make a run at toronto.
vitality looked great at bangkok and fnatic and heretics are looking in form for toronto. definitely not a 0 team region
EDG didn't even qualify, your own fans are saying that CN is sending terrible teams. which is why the region is getting criticized as a whole.
vitality sucks so bad there is no way you think they will ever replicate that bangkok run. they are just another flop superteam. TH is the ONLY EMEA team that has even a good chance of making a deep run in toronto. maybe also FNC but much less likely. If EMEA wins this one, it will only be TH that has a chance of bringing it home for EMEA.
unknown_trash [#52]vitality sucks so bad there is no way you think they will ever replicate that bangkok run. they are just another flop superteam. TH is the ONLY EMEA team that has even a good chance of making a deep run in toronto. maybe also FNC but much less likely. If EMEA wins this one, it will only be TH that has a chance of bringing it home for EMEA.
They said VIT “looked great at Bangkok”. As in VIT prevented EMEA from being a 0 team region during that time. Not that they will replicate it. Now that has been taken over by TH. Also I’d like to sneak in TL and BBL with the pair you mentioned :)
iongerss [#39]im chinese and i dont give a fuck bro
speaked from a xlg fan. Let's pacific teams humiliate your team on your hometown buddy.
vhuyn1 [#55]speaked from a xlg fan. Let's pacific teams humiliate your team on your hometown buddy.
hereshits fan talking LMFAOOOOOOO
Unincognito [#51]Ah I see your logic so AMER was a -11 region for the better half of 2024?
FNC > G2
TH > LEV + SENThat’s sound logic actually I like that well done.
Fnatic over g2 in 2024 is rage bait of the highest order
Maniacwolf [#57]Fnatic over g2 in 2024 is rage bait of the highest order
https://www.vlr.gg/378832/g2-esports-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2024-lr1 ???
Unincognito [#59]https://www.vlr.gg/378832/g2-esports-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2024-lr1 ???
Fnatic had a terrible year and g2 solidified their place as one of the top international teams.
Fnatic had a worse 2024 than g2
Maniacwolf [#60]Fnatic had a terrible year and g2 solidified their place as one of the top international teams.
Fnatic had a worse 2024 than g2
okay? But they got 2-0'd lol
Unincognito [#61]okay? But they got 2-0'd lol
Yeah they did, but g2 is remembered as a tier top team in 2024 and Fnatic is not
Unincognito [#61]okay? But they got 2-0'd lol
didn't fnc get obliterated by fut in shanghai even when they had leo lmfao
Maniacwolf [#62]Yeah they did, but g2 is remembered as a tier top team in 2024 and Fnatic is not
a top tier team* (fixed that for you) that got beat by FNC in the most important tournament of the year. I think FNC would be happier with that. Also I said "better half of 2024" not all of 2024. FNC clears :)
SavageBeastfly2 [#63]didn't fnc get obliterated by fut in shanghai even when they had leo lmfao
oh ye true, so FUT + FNC > G2. Thanks :)
Unincognito [#64]a top tier team* (fixed that for you) that got beat by FNC in the most important tournament of the year. I think FNC would be happier with that. Also I said "better half of 2024" not all of 2024. FNC clears :)
😭
Unincognito [#65]oh ye true, so FUT + FNC > G2. Thanks :)
lowk g2 looked buns in champs so i agree that fnc ended their year better, however its a bit weird when ranking EMEA and AMER in that tourney cuz lev and sen did better than fnc but both lost to TH (lev beat TH in uppers but lost in the lowers). i would prolly have emea and amer be equal in terms of competitiveness in 24 (yk cuz amer won a trophy but emea consistently made grands)
SavageBeastfly2 [#68]lowk g2 looked buns in champs so i agree that fnc ended their year better, however its a bit weird when ranking EMEA and AMER in that tourney cuz lev and sen did better than fnc but both lost to TH (lev beat TH in uppers but lost in the lowers). i would prolly have emea and amer be equal in terms of competitiveness in 24 (yk cuz amer won a trophy but emea consistently made grands)
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