Derke > Aspas

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DERKE:

  1. Derke has qualified/attended 13/19 Global Events
    • Reykjavik 2021, Champs Berlin 2021, Reykjavik 2022(Derke had covid), Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Bangkok 2025, London 2026, Riyadh 2026
  2. Derke placements:
    2nd, 5th-8th, 4th, 5th-6th, 1st, 1st, 4th, 7th-8th, 5th-6th, 4th, 4th, 5th-8th
    • top 8 placements: 12/12
    • top 4 placements: 7/12
    • top 2 placements: 3/12 (3 Grand Finals)
    • top 1 placements: 2/12 (2 Trophies)
  3. Derke stats:
    • 1.06 (#14), 1.28 (#1), 1.09 (#18), 1.22 (#4), 1.13 (#10 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.08 (#15), 1.04 (#29), 258.5 ACS (#1 | China so no ratings), 1.22 (#2), 1.18 (#4), 1.21 (#5), 1.08 (#18)
    • Derke: top 10 stats for 7 tournaments
    • Derke: top 20 stats in 11 tournaments
  4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
    • #6 player of 2021
    • #6 player of 2022
    • #5 player of 2023
    • #8 player of 2024
    • #13 player of 2025

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ASPAS:

  1. Aspas has qualified/attended 11/19 Global Events
    • Reykjavik 2022, Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Toronto 2025, Paris 2025, Riyadh 2026
  2. Aspas placements:
    • 2nd, 11th-12th, 1st, 2nd, 7th-8th, 3rd, 9th-10th, 3rd, 11th-12th, 5th-6th, 5th-8th
    • top 8 placements: 8/11
    • top 4 placements: 5/11
    • top 2 placements: 3/11 (3 Grand Finals)
    • top 1 placements: 1/11 (1 Trophy)
  3. Aspas stats:
    • 1.18 (#4), 1.04 (#25), 0.99 (#39), 1.11 (#13 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.11 (#10), 1.15 (#8), 237.8 ACS (#6 | China so no ratings), 1.14 (#11), 0.53 (#59), 1.33 (#1), 1.01 (#35)
    • Aspas: top 10 stats for 5 tournaments
    • Aspas: top 20 stats for 7 tournaments
  4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
    • #7 player of 2022
    • #4 player of 2023
    • #5 player of 2024
    • #5 player of 2025

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very simple argument for why Derke > Aspas:

  • Derke > Aspas Early-Late 2021 (non-existent Aspas)
  • Derke > Aspas Early 2022
  • Derke > Aspas Mid-Late 2022
  • Derke > Aspas Early-Mid 2023
  • Aspas > Derke Late 2023-Early 2024
  • Derke > Aspas Mid 2024
  • Aspas > Derke Late 2024
  • Derke > Aspas Early-Mid 2025
  • Aspas > Derke Late 2025-Early 2026
  • Derke > Aspas Mid 2026

Derke: 3.66 Years
Aspas: 2.0 Years

#2
DaM1
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hahaha bro shut up

#3
tempacc123
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Where is Derke?

#4
K4ziuHa
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true

#5
TeoEmil
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People will attack you for saying the truth

#6
Itsover
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DaM1 [#2]

hahaha bro shut up

derke has higher acs higher fkpr higher adr etc, just admit it. derke was top 1 in acs in 3 international tournaments out of 12, aspas was top 1 acs in 0 of them.

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unravelvivek
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derke not here thou

#8
Itsover
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tempacc123 [#3]

Where is Derke?

got trolled by poopster

#9
MitiYa
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Mechanic yup Derke > Aspas
Aim ofc Aspas > Derke

#10
laeDLaer
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unravelvivek [#7]

derke not here thou

and aspas is about to fly back to bronzil

#11
unravelvivek
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laeDLaer [#10]

and aspas is about to fly back to bronzil

derke couldn't even make it this far lol

#12
sentinelmain377
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holy W I actually got upfrags for a truth FINALLY

#13
sentinelmain377
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unravelvivek [#11]

derke couldn't even make it this far lol

he had h0ro and b0tster on his team LMAO

do you even watch games??
Derke was insane this champs

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laeDLaer
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unravelvivek [#11]

derke couldn't even make it this far lol

because hes playing 2v5 with chronicle this tournament.

#15
H3ENnZ
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Aspas start of the year > Derke start of the year
Derke shanghai > Aspas shanghai

#16
Itsover
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unravelvivek [#11]

derke couldn't even make it this far lol

as if asspiss would have carried 5 kills per map merchant toaster

#17
YerdaSelzavon
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Derke doesn’t get enough respect tbh

#18
kapteN
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Derke is an amazing role player. Always takes the space required, always first into the fray. Uses his util really smart. Plays a wider variety of duelists at the highest level than aspas

You can be a better duelist while posting “worse” stats.

So for sure, in the duelist role, derke >> aspas

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wildlord007
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Map Abyss
Tex : 231 ACS 8 FB
Aspas : 167 ACS 1 FB

Lev wont win much with an obvious flaw in their team sadly

#20
sentinelmain377
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WWW

#21
mEXsACHINE
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The fact that Derke is still being compared to aspas even when Derke had Leo, Alfajer, and Chronicle on the same team fragging alongside him speaks volumes.

#22
aspassonjiezounb
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For this champ it is the truth

#23
jonny05
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DaM1 [#2]

hahaha bro shut up

toma a medicação

#24
sentinelmain377
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YerdaSelzavon [#17]

Derke doesn’t get enough respect tbh

SPREAD THE TRUTH!!!

#25
kapteN
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mEXsACHINE [#21]

The fact that Derke is still being compared to aspas even when Derke had Leo, Alfajer, and Chronicle on the same team fragging alongside him speaks volumes.

Tell me you don’t understand the game without saying you don’t understand the game

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sentinelmain377
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W

#27
sentinelmain377
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TeoEmil [#5]

People will attack you for saying the truth

W smart guy TeoEmil

#28
KennyJones
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tempacc123 [#3]

Where is Derke?

Where is baitpas? https://imgur.com/BtJnWrr

#29
NAthebotsregion
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I always thought most stupid ppl exist in the USA till I saw Canadian. Holy cows

#30
sentinelmain377
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NAthebotsregion [#29]

I always thought most stupid ppl exist in the USA till I saw Canadian. Holy cows

u dont watch the game bro. ur just dum asf. Even Sideshow agrees with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m--CqDvHSwI&t=803s

#31
sentinelmain377
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MitiYa [#9]

Mechanic yup Derke > Aspas
Aim ofc Aspas > Derke

W

#32
cloudberry
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Bro waited until they got eliminated to post this

#33
AciveKK
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no lie, i read that as "Drake > Aspas"

#34
MuZe
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Never.

#35
sentinelmain377
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MuZe [#34]

Never.

ur just dum

#36
number1_cned_hater
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sentinelmain377 [#30]

u dont watch the game bro. ur just dum asf. Even Sideshow agrees with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m--CqDvHSwI&t=803s

You might actually be stupid af, sideshow said he thinks aspas would be the champs mvp?

#37
Enquiemmm
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In terms of impact, Derke > Aspas. That's all I care about.

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sentinelmain377
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number1_cned_hater [#36]

You might actually be stupid af, sideshow said he thinks aspas would be the champs mvp?

he is talking about the different playstyle of Aspas

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Enquiemmm
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YerdaSelzavon [#17]

Derke doesn’t get enough respect tbh

Derke and Chronicle, selfless players

#40
HaZyN
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Yes ofc like i wonder people think that this is a hottake it isnt even close Derke leads in every Stat and his team that year is really not that good Alfa had a weak year Leo was great but isnt here anymore Boasters year is one to forget only Chronicle and Derke deliverd in the 2nd half of the season

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UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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Derke > Baitpas

#42
sentinelmain377
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UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe [#41]

Derke > Baitpas

w

#43
ntro
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obviously

#44
RzqoFoxie
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Hands down

#45
GambleNats
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is derke top 4? no? shush

#46
GreyDaze
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Common knowledge

#47
i11matic
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Asspiss is hot dogshit poopoo overrated jett one trick op abuser

#48
sentinelmain377
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i11matic [#47]

Asspiss is hot dogshit poopoo overrated jett one trick op abuser

w

#49
sentinelmain377
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wildlord007 [#19]

Map Abyss
Tex : 231 ACS 8 FB
Aspas : 167 ACS 1 FB

Lev wont win much with an obvious flaw in their team sadly

W stats

#50
SomeoneLikeU
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I’m so tired of all of you saying Aspas is a baiter but their only reasoning is “he ops on attack” or “gets exit frags” but clearly none of you ever watch the games if you still think this.

#51
LaskerFps1
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post troll

#52
sentinelmain377
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um fact

#53
shrike-
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sentinelmain377 [#52]

um fact

shameless

#54
Ullyr
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Kek nice bait

#55
Coures
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sentinelmain377 [#52]

um fact

lolz

#56
sentinelmain377
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shrike- [#53]

shameless

um actually. read #5. you might be one of these "attackers" of the truth

#57
Fendy1
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Based take?

#58
Huuuuugo
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Derke's career was very unstable, besides that Aspas always crushed him.

#59
shrike-
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sentinelmain377 [#56]

um actually. read #5. you might be one of these "attackers" of the truth

no one cares lil bro quit bumping 5 month old threads

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sentinelmain377 [#56]

um actually. read #5. you might be one of these "attackers" of the truth

bro is 12 or what wtf is attacker of truth 😭😭😭

#61
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If Aspas go bald we will start this discussion he is baiting as we speak

#62
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Huuuuugo [#58]

Derke's career was very unstable, besides that Aspas always crushed him.

Unstable? He is the most consistent duelist since 2021. Aspas came a year later.

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sentinelmain377
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bronzil_enjoyer [#60]

bro is 12 or what wtf is attacker of truth 😭😭😭

bro couldnt realize i was sarcastic LMAO

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bronzil_enjoyer
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sentinelmain377 [#63]

bro couldnt realize i was sarcastic LMAO

how tf was that sarcastic 😭😭😭

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sentinelmain377
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Huuuuugo [#58]

Derke's career was very unstable, besides that Aspas always crushed him.

unstable?

  • been consistently at the top since 2021-2025
  • bro has qualified to 10/12 international events (might be 11/13 soon after Vitality wins)
  • won 2 trophies, 3 finals
  • top 1 in stats at multiple international events
  • good at every duelist (jett, yoru, raze)
  • was GOD TIER during 2022 (Chamber)
#66
sentinelmain377
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bronzil_enjoyer [#64]

how tf was that sarcastic 😭😭😭

how was "um actually." not enough to tell you...

#67
Prathades
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Aspas and Derke have played each other 3 times and in all 3 times aspas won all 3 head-to-head with a total of 41 (Aspas) to 28 (Derke).

#68
RzqoFoxie
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Based af

#69
sentinelmain377
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Prathades [#67]

Aspas and Derke have played each other 3 times and in all 3 times aspas won all 3 head-to-head with a total of 41 (Aspas) to 28 (Derke).

????????????????????

what head-to-head?? the amount of times they killed each other in those games??? 💀💀💀

instead look at the impact:
LOCK//IN 2023: Derke 28:23 FKFD vs Aspas 10:11 FKFD
Champs 2023 Match 1: Derke 14:10 FKFD vs Aspas 6:2 FKFD
Champs 2023 Match 2: Derke 10:13 FKFD vs Aspas 13:2 FKFD

looks like Derke actually plays like a duelist and entries instead of baiting

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Prathades
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sentinelmain377 [#69]

????????????????????

what head-to-head?? the amount of times they killed each other in those games??? 💀💀💀

instead look at the impact:
LOCK//IN 2023: Derke 28:23 FKFD vs Aspas 10:11 FKFD
Champs 2023 Match 1: Derke 14:10 FKFD vs Aspas 6:2 FKFD
Champs 2023 Match 2: Derke 10:13 FKFD vs Aspas 13:2 FKFD

looks like Derke actually plays like a duelist and entries instead of baiting

In the past 90 days, Aspas maintained a 20% FK while Derke has 25% but played 17 fewer maps. Or in champs 2023 aspas has 19%FK while Derke has 23% yet he played half of Aspas rounds. But in all of them, derke has more FD around 20% with Aspas at 16%. This means Aspas isn't that far behind in FK but still has far more success than Derke in FD.

#71
sentinelmain377
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Prathades [#70]

In the past 90 days, Aspas maintained a 20% FK while Derke has 25% but played 17 fewer maps. Or in champs 2023 aspas has 19%FK while Derke has 23% yet he played half of Aspas rounds. But in all of them, derke has more FD around 20% with Aspas at 16%. This means Aspas isn't that far behind in FK but still has far more success than Derke in FD.

you do know having more FD in the context of Derke (also having a lot of FK) proves that he is a good duelist that makes space and entries right

#72
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sentinelmain377 [#71]

you do know having more FD in the context of Derke (also having a lot of FK) proves that he is a good duelist that makes space and entries right

yet Aspas still maintained a 3-5 FK difference on average between Derke while still ensuring he didn't die to still have the advantage during team fight. This is why Derke has lower kast

#73
K1NGF15H3R
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wildlord007 [#19]

Map Abyss
Tex : 231 ACS 8 FB
Aspas : 167 ACS 1 FB

Lev wont win much with an obvious flaw in their team sadly

Maru <3

#74
Just_some_loser
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why are ppl getting baited by this thread?

#75
Divine_Thunder
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fax yo

#76
aspassonjiezounb
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both are goats 8/8
as i saw that guy having sentinels name i knew he 's gonna bait it
average sentinels fans

#77
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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water is wet

#78
sentinelmain377
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aspassonjiezounb [#76]

both are goats 8/8
as i saw that guy having sentinels name i knew he 's gonna bait it
average sentinels fans

0/8.

#79
zemmel
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Derke is simply better

#80
humble_y0y_10k
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Derke has been in top 3 duelists since the start of the game he is at least the same level as Aspas

#81
sentinelmain377
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zemmel [#79]

Derke is simply better

W

#82
aspassonjiezounb
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sentinelmain377 [#78]

0/8.

lol sentinels will never be better than EDG.CRY BAITER IDIOT.

#83
sentinelmain377
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aspassonjiezounb [#82]

lol sentinels will never be better than EDG.CRY BAITER IDIOT.

I am not a sentinels fan LMAOOOO???

I am sentinel main (cypher killjoy)

#84
aspassonjiezounb
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sentinelmain377 [#83]

I am not a sentinels fan LMAOOOO???

I am sentinel main (cypher killjoy)

no one cares ur sentinels fans or not.
What i wanna say is,only baiters cannot admit both are good and potential goats.That's it.

#85
PLRoox
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sentinelmain377 [#12]

holy W I actually got upfrags for a truth FINALLY

got more :)

#87
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sentinelmain377 [#86]

Derke: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2281/valorant-masters-bangkok-2025
Aspas: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2282/valorant-masters-toronto-2025

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If derke so great, why didn’t he go to Toronto?

Idk about you but my goat isn’t getting diffed by koalanoob

#88
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x_knowitall39_x [#87]

If derke so great, why didn’t he go to Toronto?

Idk about you but my goat isn’t getting diffed by koalanoob

did aspas go to Bangkok though......I have realised recently that Derke might be the best duelist of all time

#89
x_knowitall39_x
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Gugul1 [#88]

did aspas go to Bangkok though......I have realised recently that Derke might be the best duelist of all time

Yes aspas went to Toronto

#90
Gugul1
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x_knowitall39_x [#89]

Yes aspas went to Toronto

I meant to say Bangkok...but either way being the 2nd worst performing player has to be criminal

#91
sentinelmain377
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Gugul1 [#88]

did aspas go to Bangkok though......I have realised recently that Derke might be the best duelist of all time

Oh you want to fully realize:

  1. Derke has qualified/attended 11/14 VCT international events
  2. He has always placed top 8 teams in every tournament he has been in (he was replaced by a sub in Masters Reykjavik 2022 due to Covid):
    Derke 11 international apperances: 2nd, 5th-8th, 4th, 5th-6th, 1st, 1st, 4th, 7th-8th, 5th-6th, 4th
    • top 8 placements: 10/10
    • top 4 placements: 6/10
    • top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
    • top 1 placements: 2/10 (2 Trophies)
  3. 1.06 (#14), 1.28 (#1), 1.09 (#18), 1.22 (#4), 1.13 (#10 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.08 (#15), 1.04 (#29), 258.5 ACS (#1 | Shanghai so no ratings), 1.22 (#2), 1.18 (#4)
    • he has been in the top 10 stats for 6 tournaments
    • he has been in top 20 stats in 9 tournaments
  4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
    • around #6 player of 2021
    • around #6 player of 2022
    • around #5 player of 2023
    • around #8 player of 2024
    • seems like a top 10 player of 2025 already due to insane (like INSANEEEE) performance in the first third of 2025
#92
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sentinelmain377 [#91]

Oh you want to fully realize:

  1. Derke has qualified/attended 11/14 VCT international events
  2. He has always placed top 8 teams in every tournament he has been in (he was replaced by a sub in Masters Reykjavik 2022 due to Covid):
    Derke 11 international apperances: 2nd, 5th-8th, 4th, 5th-6th, 1st, 1st, 4th, 7th-8th, 5th-6th, 4th
    • top 8 placements: 10/10
    • top 4 placements: 6/10
    • top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
    • top 1 placements: 2/10 (2 Trophies)
  3. 1.06 (#14), 1.28 (#1), 1.09 (#18), 1.22 (#4), 1.13 (#10 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.08 (#15), 1.04 (#29), 258.5 ACS (#1 | Shanghai so no ratings), 1.22 (#2), 1.18 (#4)
    • he has been in the top 10 stats for 6 tournaments
    • he has been in top 20 stats in 9 tournaments
  4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
    • around #6 player of 2021
    • around #6 player of 2022
    • around #5 player of 2023
    • around #8 player of 2024
    • seems like a top 10 player of 2025 already due to insane (like INSANEEEE) performance in the first third of 2025

Damn bro....l respect you placed these stats

I updated my personal top players of all time list

Leo
Chronicle
Forsaken
Nats
Alfajer
Derke
( Might be a bit biased But for me Nats is the best sentinel player...Alfa is better aimer though

#93
CristianoPendu
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Aspas on his bad day is better than that Finnish putin

#94
PINTO0
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kapteN [#18]

Derke is an amazing role player. Always takes the space required, always first into the fray. Uses his util really smart. Plays a wider variety of duelists at the highest level than aspas

You can be a better duelist while posting “worse” stats.

So for sure, in the duelist role, derke >> aspas

doesn't even have "worse" stats
he is a really good stat player and dominates FKPR and ACS as a great duelist should

#95
Tempest24
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CristianoPendu [#93]

Aspas on his bad day is better than that Finnish putin

thats mean😖

#96
sentinelmain377
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bump since relevant

#97
Pengu12
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lowk I agree

#98
sentinelmain377
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les see what happens (current: champs 2025)

#99
Marii
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I would’ve agreed maybe 6 7 months ago

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